Unloading Rules

xiggi

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I just like the adaptability of them. Depending on length need you can wrap around the entire pallet, the entire front leg, avoid bad spots in a pallet and most times have two attach points on the fork lifetime rather than one.

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beachbum

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
If companies refuse to pull the load back then you have to find a way to pull the load to the rearof the van and hooking to a pole or a tree could be trouble also. You can damage the vehicle, plus in the long run could cause damage to the shocks and springs. let alone the extra torque on the engine.

Therefore, sometimes its cheaper to spend a couple of grand in the long run. Plus, this just might get some extra loads since expediting companies have to do as a customer wants.

Drivers or leased drivers are just one link in the chain when it comes to freight deliveries, yes were the main link but it's easier to replace us then to replace your customers.

If I decide to get one of the power decks it would cost me about 3 inches in height or I can put in 64 to 65 inch high skids. Most of the time that would be no big deal.
 

xiggi

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
If companies refuse to pull the load back then you have to find a way to pull the load to the rearof the van and hooking to a pole or a tree could be trouble also. You can damage the vehicle, plus in the long run could cause damage to the shocks and springs. let alone the extra torque on the engine.

Therefore, sometimes its cheaper to spend a couple of grand in the long run. Plus, this just might get some extra loads since expediting companies have to do as a customer wants.

Drivers or leased drivers are just one link in the chain when it comes to freight deliveries, yes were the main link but it's easier to replace us then to replace your customers.

If I decide to get one of the power decks it would cost me about 3 inches in height or I can put in 64 to 65 inch high skids. Most of the time that would be no big deal.

No power deck here. You lose height plus you lose capacity weight wise. There neat but to me the numbers don't dance.

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Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
I use a tie down strap with a flat hook on one end that I stole from my brother's flatbed. Like a tow rope it's very versatile.
 

jay1966

Active Expediter
The power deck looks nice.
How would it handle non pallet loads? I've picked up metal hoppers and plastic bins that are not on pallets.
Looks like this would limit your load options.
 

xiggi

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Straps are also lighter than chains for those that are weight conscious.

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beachbum

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
No power deck here. You lose height plus you lose capacity weight wise. There neat but to me the numbers don't dance.

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You don't have to buy one, I was just posting a simple fix to the problem of customers not pulling the second or third pallet.

Here's my question to you, What if all the major shippers and receivers refuse to pull the pallets to the rear or push them forward, what will you do?

Most of the time 200 to 300 pounds isn't going to kill you on loads. If you have a newer sprinter then those 3 to 4 inches aren't going to kill you. Try going a month and write down every load in height, length and weight. I'll bet you don't pull close to your max weight 90% of the time or 95% of the time. Bet your height on loads in going to be low also.

A person might miss a load or two per month then again you might pick up a load or two because you have a system to move the freight t the rear.
 

xiggi

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Like I said I think they are pretty neat. I would also say its personal choice I can see why people like them.

As too your question if receivers quit pulling freight I would hope to get one before the price increases. I would also take a hard look at the in floor rollers.

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runrunner

Veteran Expediter
I've been encountering deliveries where the receivers are refusing to drag pallets from the middle of the van. For some time I've used a tow rope to drag with no issues but now I'm hearing there may be new OSHA rules prohibiting pallet dragging.

Has anyone encountered problems, read the new rules, or got any solutions?

I haven't yet,but I did a transfer with a vanner once who had rollers built in to the flooring of his van really neat. Even better when I was at the FedEx terminal in Memphis TN they gave me portable rollers to use on a straight truck. They were like skate boards.
 

jay1966

Active Expediter
Ban the van!!!!

Lol Or we can all get those small mini vans and refuse to haul more than one pallet.

"Banning the Van" would suit OSHA and The Government fine as they would love to get us all tangled in their logbook, HOS, Weigh Station harassment web.
 

Slo-Ride

Veteran Expediter
For the Sprinter that has everything or wants it.
Niko Van Crane « Niko Ltd

Would a 12volt winch be of any value to you guys..Maybe attach it to a load bar or rear bumber somehow and pull freight far enought back so lift truck can grap it.. Setting it up would stink but is it a answer to the Q raised here or at least a possiblity..

(I dont like the idea of operator hooking up to a tree or light pole but I know it works)
 

highway star

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
"Banning the Van" would suit OSHA and The Government fine as they would love to get us all tangled in their logbook, HOS, Weigh Station harassment web.

If they had the desire to do that, they would. Since they haven't, it would appear they don't have the desire too.

I used a tow strap when I was in a van. Light and durable, and worked very well on heavy skids. I don't recall the exact numbers, but i felt that the rating on the strap was plenty for what I needed to do. Never had a problem with a receiver whining about it, but that could certainly be changing as time goes on.
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
Ban the van!!!!
That's exactly what would happen "if all the major shippers and receivers refuse to pull the pallets to the rear or push them forward." Cargo vans and Sprinters would be obsolete, as shippers would only consider dock-high vehicles for their needs to make things consistent. They wouldn't even consider the odd Sprinter or Box truck with a roller deck, because there simply wouldn't be enough of them to mess with, much less enough to fill the need. And a roller deck on a cargo van would eliminate all 48" tall pallets, severely limiting them in what they can haul, to the point where it wouldn't even be profitable in any way to be in the business with a cargo van.

I've been doing this a while now and I've never had even one instance where a forklift driver balked at pulling a second pallet towards the rear. That tells me that whose who do refuse to pull them are the very rare exception rather than the rule. And I've never heard or read anything that indicates otherwise.

Most expedite contracts specify the shipper loads and the receiver unloads. Some even expressly prohibit the driver from handling the freight. It's the customer's freight, and it's generally up to them to figure out how to load and unload it. If they want to transfer that responsibility to the driver, without any of the liability, that's also on them. Otherwise, it's up to the customer and dispatch on what they want to do, be it pulling the freight out, a cross dock, or even placing a pallet jack into the van to pull the freight towards the rear (which I've experienced a couple of times due to really odd circumstances, like them not having a fork truck, but only a hand-operated power lift).

If I get to a consignee and they refuse to pull the a second pallet out, then I would call dispatch, who calls the customer, and someone other than me makes the call on what to do.

"Banning the Van" would suit OSHA and The Government fine as they would love to get us all tangled in their logbook, HOS, Weigh Station harassment web.
If they wanted us tangled up in their logbook, HOS and Weigh Station web, we'd already be in there. We're not in there because they don't want us in there.
 
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Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
Yeah, didn't see it until after I posted.

But, it bears repeating. :D
 
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