UN Gun Treaty

layoutshooter

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Greens are democracies, and the yellows are flawed hybrids, and the reds are authoritarian or dictatorial.

Type of RegimeCountries% of Countries% of World Population
Full Democracies2515.011.3
Flawed Democracies5331.737.1
Hybrid Regimes3722.214.0
Authoritarian5231.1


I don't understand the point in the context of this discussion. :confused:
 

Ragman

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ANY person who would vote to allow a live born child, one who managed to survive an attempt to kill it, to lay on a table, unattended until it dies, IS EVIL. Obama did EXACTLY that. Hitler would have been proud. So is his father, Satan.

ANY person who is capable of that is capable of ANY horrible thing, including mass murder.

I respectfully submit that.


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Turtle

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What mass murder in Iraq?
Casualties of the Iraq War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You mean what Saddam was doing?
No, I mean "like the kind that the US military has perpetuated in Iraq and Afghanistan." Did I not make that clear?

Besides, did I not say that IF one wants to stop murder one has to start by disarming GOVERNMENTS? I am SURE I said that.
I'm sure you did, too.

The arms treaty is just a STEP, not the first step, but just another step in a long trip that has yet to reach it's end goal.
Yep, sure is. You ever try to smuggle a banana across the border?

Fighting against a UN controlled private arms registration is NOT silly.
I never said it was. I said equating it to Hitler is silly, because it is. Especially since private arms registration by the UN isn't even in the treaty.

Once they know who has what and where they are, the next step is EASY. Those who are pushing to disarm the public will know right where to start.
It may be EASY, but it still ain't in the treaty.

You can believe ANYTHING you want. So can I. You cannot prove your point, I think that I can still find enough people who escaped the terror of Soviet controlled Eastern Europe that are still alive to prove mine.
Actually, I can prove my point, and you cannot prove yours, so there.

I NEVER said that Obama was like Hitler...
Actually you did when you equated the two.

No one is going to force you to stand up and fight this. You do as you chose and I will do as see fit. As stated before. I will NOT start this. When someone comes to my place and seeks to register my guns, it will then hit the fan.
I'll fight when fighting is necessary. I won't fight because of delusional fantasy .
 
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OntarioVanMan

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according to some in here :rolleyes:..Canada is a flawed democracy Britain and Austrialia too....so that chart is flawed...
 

OntarioVanMan

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coming from a person that said he hated speed limiters, claimed they were unsafe...and yet buckled to the great Feds when FORCED to install them, for the almighty dollar...instead of standing up for his beliefs and walking away, making the sacrifice....
and we can take you seriously?....
 

layoutshooter

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When I get home in Sept I will see if I still have my copy of the treaty that had the part about the registration. I may have thrown it out when I was cleaning out old stuff from my magazine box.

I don't know what 'mass murder' in Iraq you are talking about. Who rounded up millions and murdered them? Shoot, when my son was there he was not even allow to return fire when fired on. Neither was my nephew or any of the men that I hunted with who were there. They were not allowed to pursue ANYONE into many areas even if those same people have just fired on our troops, mortared them, bombed them or beheaded them.

As I said, I know far too may people who escaped from Soviet controlled Eastern Europe. I worked with several. I have heard their stories. One, "Staash" (not his real name) spent 3 years getting out of Poland. Much of that time was spent crawling though sewers to avoid capture. I will NEVER forget when he told me how atonished he was that SO many American were willing to accept the same programs and goal that Soviet Russia imposed on Poland. He is correct, if he is still alive, his health was no longer with him due to that 3 year ordeal.

AS I said, you believe what you want. I don't really care. You could not produce enough proof to change my mind and I could not to change yours. I would likely not trust your sources and you would feel the same about mine.

I will do what I see fit, as will you. One of us will be proven right. Might take 30 years but time will tell. Evil can wait forever if needed.

ANY who, I am going to a really big gun show here tomorrow to help celebrate my freedom. Too bad I can't buy anything. I am in the market for a rifle.
 

layoutshooter

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coming from a person that said he hated speed limiters, claimed they were unsafe...and yet buckled to the great Feds when FORCED to install them, for the almighty dollar...instead of standing up for his beliefs and walking away, making the sacrifice....
and we can take you seriously?....

You believe what EVER your little heart desires. It makes no difference to me.
 

Turtle

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I don't know why you don't think you could change my mind with verifiable sources. My mind is not closed to new ideas or new information. I'm also not sure why it takes "millions" to qualify as "mass".
 

layoutshooter

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I would even consder moving there if LOS is correct. :cool:


There are MANY Canadians in the North Western part of the country that want NOTHING to do with Ottawa or the rest of that Nation. There are many Americans and Canadians looking at the possiblity of creating a new country, out of several Canadian provinces and American states. where they can be free of the hell that may be on it's way. The Yukon, NWT, Alaska, Montana, Idaho even some in the Dakotas are talking along these lines.

I personally would like to live maybe on Kodiak Island someday, not while my father is still with me. GREAT layout hunting up there. Anti hunters are NOT allowed! HEAVEN!
 

layoutshooter

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I don't know why you don't think you could change my mind with verifiable sources. My mind is not closed to new ideas or new information. I'm also not sure why it takes "millions" to qualify as "mass".

I am no longer going to play with you. Your smart donkey answer when I asked you to clairify a point that I did not understand told me all I need to know.
 

Ragman

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There are MANY Canadians in the North Western part of the country that want NOTHING to do with Ottawa or the rest of that Nation. There are many Americans and Canadians looking at the possiblity of creating a new country, out of several Canadian provinces and American states. where they can be free of the hell that may be on it's way. The Yukon, NWT, Alaska, Montana, Idaho even some in the Dakotas are talking along these lines.

I personally would like to live maybe on Kodiak Island someday, not while my father is still with me. GREAT layout hunting up there. Anti hunters are NOT allowed! HEAVEN!

Hey, at least I conceded the idea that you could be right. :p

If so, I wouldn't hesitate to consider those countries. :cool:
 
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