The only problem is, most can't elect their govenment.
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The only problem is, most can't elect their govenment.
The 12 million people that Hitler marched into the gas chambers did NOT elect to go through that. The 20+ million that Stalin murdered did NOT elect to live like that. The millions that Mou Se Tung murdered did NOT elect to live like that. They were FORCED into the slavery by extremist governments. MOST of those people were sheep. Better to die fighting than to roll over and die. Those who held of Hitler in the ghetto of Warsaw were MEN! They might have been killed but they died fighting as FREE MEN!
Ah! Godwin's Law (also known as Reductio ad Hitlerum, and Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies). It states:
"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."
In other words, Godwin observed that, given enough time, in any online discussion—regardless of topic or scope—someone inevitably makes a comparison to Hitler and the Nazis.
Of course, in some online discussions, it happens quicker than others. It's not merely Internet adage, it's Internet cliché.
I do wonder, though, before Hitler was born, what the go-to straw man reference might have been for people on the Internet of the day.
"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."
In other words, Godwin observed that, given enough time, in any online discussion—regardless of topic or scope—someone inevitably makes a comparison to Hitler and the Nazis.
Of course, in some online discussions, it happens quicker than others. It's not merely Internet adage, it's Internet cliché.
I do wonder, though, before Hitler was born, what the go-to straw man reference might have been for people on the Internet of the day.
Napoleon would be my guess.
There have always been "Hitler" types throughout history. They have always killed in mass and always prey on those who cannot protect themselves. Hitler, the those of his ilk that followed him, just used more modern means to kill even more. That is why Hitler comes up so often. His assembly methods for murder.
Nothing will change. The sole purpose of disarming citizens is to insure total power, and corruption, for the government. All the hype about crime prevention is just that, hype. Once the government(s) have total power and are no longer kept in check by a well armed public they can, and will, do exactly as they please to the people.
IF one truly wants to prevent the maximum amount of murder one should strive to disarm government. Governments have destroyed more life then any other man made invention. Left to their own devices government will degrade into killing machines.
That was one of the primary reasons the the military was placed under civilian control in this country. That too has now been corrupted.
Do not believe for one second that this government is benevolent. It becomes more likely that it will revert to terror and murder to further it's needs as it travels down the path that it is on now.
I really don't understand how or why comparisons to Hitler or Nazis happen, But I wish they would STOP!!!!!
While one may disagree with the politics of the sitting president, calling him (or her if the case may be) a Hitler or Nazi is unconscionable IMHO.
Thank you very much.
I am done ranting now.
While one may disagree with the politics of the sitting president, calling him (or her if the case may be) a Hitler or Nazi is unconscionable IMHO.
Thank you very much.
I am done ranting now.
talk about scare mongering...and he actually believes what he types....
The reason that they should NEVER go away is to insure that what happened then, never happens again. Things like what happened in Nazi Germany were repeated with glee throughout the 20th Century and they continue and are expanding again today. If that bothers you, good, it should. Ignoring it allows it to grow.
To believe that those things could not happen here is naive. One only has to look at the "Trail of Tears" to see what THIS government is capable of. What about the internment of Japanese Americans at the start of WWII. It was only by chance that it did not end up with mass murder. It can, and will happen here, if we continue to ignore what is going on.
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I never said a comparison should go away. If it is warrented, fine (can we say pol pot, idi amein, etc), but I really don't see a Clinton or Bush or Obama as an evil person. Incompetent-yes, bad policy-yes, damaging to our relations with other countries-yes, but evil-NO.
Whatever damage is done can and will be repaired.
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No, they are rights DISCOVERED by people, people who came from what we call Western Civilization, rights that gelled in people's consciousness over centuries and gradually were codified into western law. And it's why the world is in big trouble with the decline of the West and rise of the East, because the Chinese and Mohammadans don't recognize individual rights the way we do. They still exist, given to us by Nature and Nature's God, but once they die here, and they're on life support now, there's nowhere to go.
Anyway, man no more invented or granted rights any more than we "invented" fire, electricity, or the wheel, and like those things, we merely discovered and harnessed them.
Exactly. The problem is that too many people reference Hitler regarding things as horrific as parking tickets and IFTA tax and bills not even voted on in Congress. If someone doesn't agree with something, or someone, they have to make them out to be bad, very bad, and connecting them with Hitler seems to be the only way to do it. The UN wants to get global rules in place for international trading of arms, you know, they same way they have rules in place for the international trading of bananas and coffee beans and iPhones and Rhesus monekys, and the Hitler types automatically and without a full and thorough analysis of the data construe it to the worst thing in, like, ever, starting with the immediate registration and then disarming of Americans.
So yes, the Hitler references need to stop, unless you are talking about mass murder. For example, like the kind that the US military has perpetuated in Iraq and Afghanistan. Then you'd have a valid analogy and correlation. But to equate Hitler with an arms trade treaty and all it's ramifications, real and imagined, is just silly.
So yes, the Hitler references need to stop, unless you are talking about mass murder. For example, like the kind that the US military has perpetuated in Iraq and Afghanistan. Then you'd have a valid analogy and correlation. But to equate Hitler with an arms trade treaty and all it's ramifications, real and imagined, is just silly.
most can't?....I'd say MOST do elect their government
That may be true of western cultures, but I'd venture to guess most of Africa and Asia don't have much say in who runs their government.
that is not quite MOST of the world...gee whiz....
Ok fine, will you settle for half? geezzz
What mass murder in Iraq? You mean what Saddam was doing? Besides, did I not say that IF one wants to stop murder one has to start by disarming GOVERNMENTS? I am SURE I said that.
The arms treaty is just a STEP, not the first step, but just another step in a long trip that has yet to reach it's end goal.
Fighting against a UN controlled private arms registration is NOT silly. Once they know who has what and where they are, the next step is EASY. Those who are pushing to disarm the public will know right where to start.
You can believe ANYTHING you want. So can I. You cannot prove your point, I think that I can still find enough people who escaped the terror of Soviet controlled Eastern Europe that are still alive to prove mine.
I NEVER said that Obama was like Hitler, I did say that he was headed in that direction and would likely use force to insure his power. He was mentored by a Marxist and the history of what Marxism has done when they moved into an area is VERY well known. Horses cannot change their stripes.
No one is going to force you to stand up and fight this. You do as you chose and I will do as see fit. As stated before. I will NOT start this. When someone comes to my place and seeks to register my guns, it will then hit the fan.
I have to respectfuly disagree.
You have said many times "Obama is evil" not "heading in the direction of evil" <poke>
Greens are democracies, and the yellows are flawed hybrids, and the reds are authoritarian or dictatorial.
| Type of Regime | Countries | % of Countries | % of World Population |
| Full Democracies | 25 | 15.0 | 11.3 |
| Flawed Democracies | 53 | 31.7 | 37.1 |
| Hybrid Regimes | 37 | 22.2 | 14.0 |
| Authoritarian | 52 | 31.1 |
I have to respectfuly disagree.
You have said many times "Obama is evil" not "heading in the direction of evil" <poke>
ANY person who would vote to allow a live born child, one who managed to survive an attempt to kill it, to lay on a table, unattended until it dies, IS EVIL. Obama did EXACTLY that. Hitler would have been proud. So is his father, Satan.
ANY person who is capable of that is capable of ANY horrible thing, including mass murder.
I respectfully submit that.
Greens are democracies, and the yellows are flawed hybrids, and the reds are authoritarian or dictatorial.
Type of Regime
Countries
% of Countries
% of World Population
Full Democracies
25
15.0
11.3
Flawed Democracies
53
31.7
37.1
Hybrid Regimes
37
22.2
14.0
Authoritarian
52
31.1
That would mean only 25 out of 167 have a real say in who heads their govenment.
Yeah, I would say most do not.