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ATeam

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A Bad Sign for Trump

"The twice-indicted Donald Trump has a perfect record: He has lost every important challenge in the multiple, major legal cases swirling around him." (Source)

With a track record like that, it does not appear that the facts and the law are on Trump's side. With a track record like that, what reason is there to believe Trump will do any better in the court challenges ahead?
 

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A Bad Sign for Trump

"The twice-indicted Donald Trump has a perfect record: He has lost every important challenge in the multiple, major legal cases swirling around him." (Source)

With a track record like that, it does not appear that the facts and the law are on Trump's side. With a track record like that, what reason is there to believe Trump will do any better in the court challenges ahead?
With all due respect, Jennifer Rubin is about as unhinged Leftist as it gets.
 
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ATeam

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With all due respect, Jennifer Rubin is about as unhinged Leftist as it gets.
That may be, but her reporting is accurate. Trump has lost every important challenge in the multiple, major legal cases swirling around him. If past is prologue, Trump is doomed.

The arguments he makes and information he shares on Truth Social for his MAGA supporters simply do not work in court. They serve him well in the public domain, but in a forum where the law and the facts matter, and the rules of evidence and procedure apply, Trump is not doing well.

This puts him on two trajectories that will likely converge in Trump becoming the most popular inmate America has ever had.
 
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That may be, but her reporting is accurate. Trump has lost every important challenge in the multiple, major legal cases swirling around him. If past is prologue, Trump is doomed.

The arguments he makes and information he shares on Truth Social for his MAGA supporters simply do not work in court. They serve him well in the public domain, but in a forum where the law and the facts matter, and the rules of evidence and procedure apply, Trump is not doing well.

This puts him on two trajectories that will likely converge in Trump becoming the most popular inmate America has ever had.
All the cases against him are cockamamie charges. Dems are making fools of themselves.
 

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All the cases against him are cockamamie charges. Dems are making fools of themselves.
It may be that the Democrats are making fools of themselves, but there are those who say the crimes Trump actually committed explain his present circumstances. And these are real-world circumstances. He really has been arrested. He really has been forced to appear in court against his will. He really has been charged with crimes. And he really does face the possibility of jail time of decades or more.

You can say the Democrats are making fools of themselves, but when the trials are over, they will be free and Trump will be physically confined with no phone. His Truth Social outbursts will cease. His sycophants will be kept away. He'll likely be permitted to watch the TV news, but he will be unable to respond. That, I think, will be the worst part for Trump. He thrives interacting with others. I don't know how he'll do when he is confined alone for a very long time.

I don't know what that confinement will look like. It might be in a super-max cell for his own safety. It might be closely supervised confinement at Mar-a-Lago. It might be something in between. Whatever it is, I think it will include him losing the freedom to travel anywhere, and to communicate with the outside world; except by mail or through the occasional visitor.

Why am I so confident about this? Trump's success rate in court, now that these cases are actually in court, is abysmal. In recent weeks, dozens of important questions have been taken up in various courts, and Trump has won NONE of them. Lots of questions, ZERO wins; even in his favorite Judge Cannon's court. Zero wins.
 
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Trump's Self-Harming Pattern of Behavior

It does not usually happen that reporters interviewing Trump ask him about jail time. But it's beginning to happen as the various Trump trials and investigations proceed. In response, Trump has elevated his rhetoric to imply or openly make threats of violence. Specifically:

"On Tuesday, Trump gave an interview on an Iowa-based talk show where, mob-style, he issued a "warning" that was actually a threat. When asked about the possibility of going to jail, the former president said, 'I think it's a very dangerous thing to even talk about, because we do have a tremendously passionate group of voters, much more passion than they had in 2020 and much more passion than they had in 2016.'

"Then on Thursday, Trump posted a video on his Truth Social account that was even less subtle. In it, ominous music plays over a shot of Trump's eyes glaring, as his voiceover says, 'If you f**k around with us, if you do something bad to us, we are going to do things to you that have never been done before.'"

"[This] nukes what was Trump's strongest defense in any January 6 case. No longer can he argue that he wasn't trying to kick off a riot when he told his followers to "march" on the Capitol, and they just did that on their own. Instead, Trump is handing prosecutors a pattern of behavior they can point to." (Source)
 

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Dems have to dig up old obscure statutes rarely if ever used and concoct complex legal theories never tried before to try to get Trump. Meanwhile, Biden ( “the big guy”) is illegally shaking down other countries and depositing it in shell corporations right under our noses.
Dems got it good.
 

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A Bad Sign for Trump

"The twice-indicted Donald Trump has a perfect record: He has lost every important challenge in the multiple, major legal cases swirling around him." (Source)

With a track record like that, it does not appear that the facts and the law are on Trump's side. With a track record like that, what reason is there to believe Trump will do any better in the court challenges ahead?
Twice acquitted former president trump.......
 
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It has never happened before that a sitting president attempted a coup.
And yet the Democrats have used their power to withhold as much evidence as they can to charge people with crimes....
Much of the video footage would never see the light of day if Republicans had not gotten control of the house.
 
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And yet the Democrats have used their power to withhold as much evidence as they can to charge people with crimes....
Much of the video footage would never see the light of day if Republicans had not gotten control of the house.
How much good is that video footage doing Trump? He has lost every challenge that has come before courts in his recent trials. If there was evidence of any kind that would benefit Trump, why is he not using it? If the Republicans have it, and have released it to Tucker Carlson, Why does it not help Trump? Why can't he win in court if the Republicans have the evidence?

Answer: Trump is guilty and that is what the evidence shows.
 
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How much good is that video footage doing Trump? He has lost every challenge that has come before courts in his recent trials. If there was evidence of any kind that would benefit Trump, why is he not using it? If the Republicans have it, and have released it to Tucker Carlson, Why does it not help Trump? Why can't he win in court if the Republicans have the evidence?

Answer: Trump is guilty and that is what the evidence shows.
What's he guilty of? Challenging the results of an election and voicing his opinion about it? How is that even a crime?
 

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Just remember the Democrats HAD to change the statute of limitations law in new York state to go after trump....and allow a woman to accuse and sue trump for a 35+ year old memory of a supposedly rape and assault.
 
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What's he guilty of? Challenging the results of an election and voicing his opinion about it? How is that even a crime?
The indictments list the charges. Read the indictments to learn what he is guilty of.

Important Note: Technically, Trump is not guilty. In court, he is innocent until proven guilty. In court, Trump is rightfully entititled to the presumption of innocence. But I am not a juror or judge in these cases. I am a member of the public. In the court of public opinion, I deem him guilty of the charges made in the indictments. And I am confident the courts will agree as these cases play out.
 
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Just remember the Democrats HAD to change the statute of limitations law in new York state to go after trump....and allow a woman to accuse and sue trump for a 35+ year old memory of a supposedly rape and assault.
I do remember that and you raise a valid point, as does Trump regarding this item. I have spoken elsewhere in this thread about the deep concerns I have regarding retroactive lawmaking. I expect Trump to raise this issue in court at the appropriate time. It is an important constitutional issue and I am looking forward to seeing it resolved in Trump's favor and America's favor. Retroactive lawmaking is law and fraught with hazards.
 
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