The Trump Card...
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No, not everyone knows. Even among half the GA fake electors in question, half of them got immunity and half did not. Reasons for that are unknown. Whatever they are this is not even close to an "everyone knows" situation. The truth will come out in due time as the cases will proceed. And in these days, even if everyone comes to know the truth, many will deny it or try to twist it for partisan reasons.
Stick to that story. It will work until the facts are actually known.
danthewolf00
Veteran Expediter
You really thing the economy is doing ok....or that the southern border is secure?
Having said he is cutting his overseas trip short to return to the U.S. to "confront" Carroll, there is no word yet in the news about that. His whereabouts are not revealed in any current news stories. He has not yet told the Court he changed his mind about testifying in the Carroll case, and the judge's 5:00pm deadline for that draws near.
I'm beginning to think Trump was blowing hot air when he talked about cutting his trip short to confront Carroll. And my guess is Carroll and her attorneys are praying that Trump will change his mind and take the stand.
What purpose did Representative Jamie Raskin have by challenging the election by appearing before Congress and Vice President Biden? What authority did he have? The Electoral College Act. It’s not a story. It actually happened. It’s on tape.
Except he didn’t have a Senator to sign off on it.
Correct. It's also correct that his attorney made clear that Trump would not be testifying. So, what was he talking about when he said he was cutting his trip short to confront Carroll?
The story I'm sarcastically asking you to stick to is not that one. It's the assumption that all of the fake electors were legit. Some remained legit by expressly stating that their documents were contingent. Others were either duped into or intentionally acted to perpetrate a fraud.
Like the article said “confront” can be left to interpretation. He could be talking about his lawyers in court and wants to be present in the States while it comes to a conclusion. The case is Carroll v Trump, but his lawyers are representing him in court.
It’s a nothingburger.
They were contingent electors in case they were needed. They weren’t used because the constitutional protected challenge failed. Why the Leftists are pursuing this nothing case is beyond me. Actually I know. Anything to try to get Trump. So they’ll try to do it in a deep blue area like Fulton County. The Left wouldn’t try these frivolous cases in any non blue area because they know the case would be laughed out of court for its stupidity.
Yes, Jan 6 Was an Insurrection
At least 10 people in at least 2 separate trials, some of them Proud Boys, some of them Oath Keepers, have plead guilty to or have been convicted of the crime of seditious conspiracy. These crimes happened and the perpetrators are bring brought to justice.
"Seditious conspiracy is a federal crime in the United States that involves an agreement between two or more people to use force to overthrow the government or to levy war against the government, or to oppose by force the authority of the government, or to prevent, hinder, or delay by force the execution of any law of the United States. In order to be convicted of seditious conspiracy, the government must prove that the defendants agreed to use force or violence, and that at least one of the overt acts committed in furtherance of the conspiracy was taken. The penalties for seditious conspiracy can include fines and imprisonment for up to 20 years." (ChatGPT)
"Insurrection refers to a violent uprising against an authority or government, often aimed at overthrowing the existing power structure. It involves a significant and organized group of people who use force to challenge and resist the established political authority, often with the aim of taking control of the government or a specific territory. The term is typically used to describe a serious threat to the rule of law and the stability of a political system." (ChatGPT)
Some have said there cannot be an insurrection without sedition. With the convictions now obtained, that box is checked. The disturbance at the US Capitol on Jan 6 was not a peaceful protest, or tourists innocently wandering through, or an event somehow made legitimate because some were said to have been admitted to the Capitol by police, or a riot. It was an insurrection.
At least 10 people in at least 2 separate trials, some of them Proud Boys, some of them Oath Keepers, have plead guilty to or have been convicted of the crime of seditious conspiracy. These crimes happened and the perpetrators are bring brought to justice.
"Seditious conspiracy is a federal crime in the United States that involves an agreement between two or more people to use force to overthrow the government or to levy war against the government, or to oppose by force the authority of the government, or to prevent, hinder, or delay by force the execution of any law of the United States. In order to be convicted of seditious conspiracy, the government must prove that the defendants agreed to use force or violence, and that at least one of the overt acts committed in furtherance of the conspiracy was taken. The penalties for seditious conspiracy can include fines and imprisonment for up to 20 years." (ChatGPT)
"Insurrection refers to a violent uprising against an authority or government, often aimed at overthrowing the existing power structure. It involves a significant and organized group of people who use force to challenge and resist the established political authority, often with the aim of taking control of the government or a specific territory. The term is typically used to describe a serious threat to the rule of law and the stability of a political system." (ChatGPT)
Some have said there cannot be an insurrection without sedition. With the convictions now obtained, that box is checked. The disturbance at the US Capitol on Jan 6 was not a peaceful protest, or tourists innocently wandering through, or an event somehow made legitimate because some were said to have been admitted to the Capitol by police, or a riot. It was an insurrection.
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danthewolf00
Veteran Expediter
I'll amend my post above to include riot. It was not a riot, it was an insurrection. The presence or absence of a gun has no bearing on the definition of insurrection.
Fixed it: Unless you count the officer that unnecessarily panicked and shot the unarmed female protester.
danthewolf00
Veteran Expediter
Only a Democrat would call that defending themselves....pepper spray should have been used before a gun drawn.