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https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/14/politics/michigan-judge-trump-14th-amendment/index.html

From the article you cited:

"Last week, the Minnesota Supreme Court rejected a related constitutional challenge against Trump in that state. A similar anti-Trump challenge is pending in Colorado, where a ruling is expected by the end of this week. Regardless of the initial rulings in these closely watched cases, most experts anticipate appeals that go all the way to the US Supreme Court, which could settle the issue for the entire nation."

 

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From the article you cited:

"Last week, the Minnesota Supreme Court rejected a related constitutional challenge against Trump in that state. A similar anti-Trump challenge is pending in Colorado, where a ruling is expected by the end of this week. Regardless of the initial rulings in these closely watched cases, most experts anticipate appeals that go all the way to the US Supreme Court, which could settle the issue for the entire nation."

This will be appealed to the Supreme Court. Good, good.

 

[ATeam]

A Trial-Delay Nuclear Option for Trump

This article discusses a trial-delay option Trump has that I have not thought of before. He can fire his attorneys and thereby force the courts to delay his trials while new counsel is acquired. It is widely thought that Trump wants to delay all his criminal trials until after the election. The presumption is Trump will win the election and then corruptly use the powers of the presidency to somehow make the trials go away.

The writer calls this a nuclear option because it is a high-risk move. One or more judges may respond by revoking his bond and remanding Trump into custody.

I don't know if either of these outcomes will happen. The writer presents some interesting food for thought.

One outcome the writer did not mention is the option the judges have to not allow Trump to fire his attorneys or allow them to quit. Or, they may allow that but not grant a delay. Trump has this nuclear option and judges have them too.

What’s Trump’s next chess move? Firing his lawyers.

Drowning in legal trouble, Donald Trump has one strategy: delay, delay and more delay.

thehill.com

 

[ATeam]

This will be appealed to the Supreme Court. Good, good.

I agree. And so do the parties that are filing these lawsuits. That is why they are filing their lawsuits in the first place. Their whole purpose is to get this matter before the US Supreme Court.

 

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I agree. And so do the parties that are filing these lawsuits. That is why they are filing their lawsuits in the first place. Their whole purpose is to get this matter before the US Supreme Court.

Good, good.

 

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A Trial-Delay Nuclear Option for Trump

This article discusses a trial-delay option Trump has that I have not thought of before. He can fire his attorneys and thereby force the courts to delay his trials while new counsel is acquired. It is widely thought that Trump wants to delay all his criminal trials until after the election. The presumption is Trump will win the election and then corruptly use the powers of the presidency to somehow make the trials go away.

The writer calls this a nuclear option because it is a high-risk move. One or more judges may respond by revoking his bond and remanding Trump into custody.

I don't know if either of these outcomes will happen. The writer presents some interesting food for thought.

One outcome the writer did not mention is the option the judges have to not allow Trump to fire his attorneys or allow them to quit. Or, they may allow that but not grant a delay. Trump has this nuclear option and judges have them too.

What’s Trump’s next chess move? Firing his lawyers.

Drowning in legal trouble, Donald Trump has one strategy: delay, delay and more delay.

thehill.com

Presidential pardons is a Constitutional power that Presidents have. If you don’t like or want him to have that power then don’t elect him.

 

[ATeam]

Presidential pardons is a Constitutional power that Presidents have. If you don’t like or want him to have that power then don’t elect him.

No president has ever tried to pardon himself. If Trump got elected (unlikely) and pardoned himself, it would be challenged in the Supreme Court. You can assert that Trump has the power to pardon himself, but a whole lot of people would disagree. Your assertion does not the law make.

 

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No president has ever tried to pardon himself. If Trump got elected (unlikely) and pardoned himself, it would be challenged in the Supreme Court. You can assert that Trump has the power to pardon himself, but a whole lot of people would disagree. Your assertion does not the law make.

Good. The Supreme Court will affirm that he can pardon himself, even from state court cases.

 

[ATeam]

Good. The Supreme Court will affirm that he can pardon himself, even from state court cases.

Assert away, my friend. You do seem to enjoy it.

 

[Pilgrim]

Good. The Supreme Court will affirm that he can pardon himself, even from state court cases.

It would appear they've already ruled on that. However, he can't pardon state convictions.

"The power, which has historical roots in early English law,2 has been recognized by the Supreme Court as quite broad. In the 1886 case Ex parte Garland, the Court referred to the President’s authority to pardon as unlimited except in cases of impeachment, extending to every offence known to the law and able to be exercised either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment."

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S2-C1-3-1/ALDE_00013316/

 

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It would appear they've already ruled on that. However, he can't pardon state convictions.

"The power, which has historical roots in early English law,2 has been recognized by the Supreme Court as quite broad. In the 1886 case Ex parte Garland, the Court referred to the President’s authority to pardon as unlimited except in cases of impeachment, extending to every offence known to the law and able to be exercised either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment."

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S2-C1-3-1/ALDE_00013316/

How Trump can pardon himself in Georgia, according to Mark Levin

Levin said there's a constitutional argument around the idea that presidential pardoning powers don't extend to state criminal charges.

www.newsweek.com

 

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How Trump can pardon himself in Georgia, according to Mark Levin

Levin said there's a constitutional argument around the idea that presidential pardoning powers don't extend to state criminal charges.

www.newsweek.com

Another argument for the Supreme Court.

 

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How Trump can pardon himself in Georgia, according to Mark Levin

Levin said there's a constitutional argument around the idea that presidential pardoning powers don't extend to state criminal charges.

www.newsweek.com

Makes sense, considering the mischief corrupt state prosecutors could make for Presidents or Presidential candidates. Look at NY right now.

 

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Trump Election Interference Case May Extend to 2025: Fani Willis

An emergency request filed in the case by prosecutors is scheduled to be heard by the judge on Wednesday.

www.theepochtimes.com

 

[ATeam]

Trump Election Interference Case May Extend to 2025: Fani Willis

An emergency request filed in the case by prosecutors is scheduled to be heard by the judge on Wednesday.

www.theepochtimes.com

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I have never expected the highly complex GA RICO case to conclude in court before the 2024 election. This thing will take years to complete.

And no, a president cannot pardon someone charged with a state offense. The president's pardon power is limited to federal offenses. You can share all the posts you want that say different but they do not matter. No president in the history of the US has ever pardoned someone for a state offense, because no president has that power.

You are free to assert otherwise but there is no way to truly answer the question unless Trump is elected (unlikely) and he tries to pardon himself for the GA crimes he is charged with.

 

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I have never expected the highly complex GA RICO case to conclude in court before the 2024 election. This thing will take years to complete.

And no, a president cannot pardon someone charged with a state offense. The president's pardon power is limited to federal offenses. You can share all the posts you want that say different but they do not matter. No president in the history of the US has ever pardoned someone for a state offense, because no president has that power.

You are free to assert otherwise but there is no way to truly answer the question unless Trump is elected (unlikely) and he tries to pardon himself for the GA crimes he is charged with.

A " serious constitutional argument". I concur.

https://x.com/thereidout/status/1724583111361544437?t=o5rgbrx03BTVdYynonU8xA&s=09

 

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Another court win for Trump:

 

[ATeam]

Another court win for Trump:

Yes it is, and I will score it as such in my next report (previous report here).

One thing to note: given Trump's single-digit win rate (8.67% wins, 91.33% losses), it is more accurate to say "a rare court win for Trump" instead of "Another court win for Trump."

Also note that this is a "window dressing win." Trump's NY fraud case continues and the trial end is rapidly approaching. The prosecution has rested. The defense is now calling witnesses to make it's case. They will be done with that in December and will then rest. At that point, Judge Engoron will make his ruling.

In a previous summary judgment, the judge has already found Trump et al liable for fraud. And he ordered certain punishments for that. The purpose of this phase of the trial is to present pro-Trump and anti-Trump evidence regarding the additional punishment to be decided and ordered by the judge.

 

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Yes it is, and I will score it as such in my next report (previous report here).

One thing to note: given Trump's single-digit win rate (8.67% wins, 91.33% losses), it is more accurate to say "a rare court win for Trump" instead of "Another court win for Trump."

With Cannon likely delaying the trial until after the election and Fanni Willis’s bumbling case not decided until at least 2025 when Trump is already President, the Left’s hopes of incarcerating Trump are fading fast.

 

[ATeam]

With Cannon likely delaying the trial until after the election and Fanni Willis’s bumbling case not decided until at least 2025 when Trump is already President, the Left’s hopes of incarcerating Trump are fading fast.

Those who maintain such hopes are stacking one hope upon another. Maybe it will turn out that way. We shall see.