The Trump Card...

Pilgrim

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What Biden did was much worse. Not to mention his bribes, money laundering, and shell corporations.
What Biden did could be compared to a bank robber making a heist, keeping the money for several years, then returning it after "finding" it in his garage and claiming no crime was committed. Totally absurd.
 

ATeam

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For Context

Reality Leigh Winner was an American former U.S. Air Force linguist and intelligence contractor. She was arrested on June 3, 2017 and charged with one count of felony transmission of national defense information. She pleaded guilty to the charge and was sentenced to five years and three months in prison. She was released from prison in June 2021.

Winner transmitted one document one time to a media outlet. On at least two occasions, Trump showed classified documents to people who did not have security clearances; one an author. Winner was charged with one count under the Espionage Act. Trump is charged with 31 counts under the same act.
 

danthewolf00

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For Context

Reality Leigh Winner was an American former U.S. Air Force linguist and intelligence contractor. She was arrested on June 3, 2017 and charged with one count of felony transmission of national defense information. She pleaded guilty to the charge and was sentenced to five years and three months in prison. She was released from prison in June 2021.

Winner transmitted one document one time to a media outlet. On at least two occasions, Trump showed classified documents to people who did not have security clearances; one an author. Winner was charged with one count under the Espionage Act. Trump is charged with 31 counts under the same act.
They have not found said classified document to use as evidence to go with that audio recording so it is just cow poop right now.
 
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ATeam

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They have not found said classified document to use as evidence to go with that audio recording so it is just cow poop right now.
As a business owner, I have business priorities and limited time to spend on discussing this case. The indictment was a major development that got my attention. It speaks for itself, and the legal teams will argue the details in court. These alleged crimes and the evidence are now an unalterable part of the historical record. They will loom large in the stories told about Trump.

In the interests of time-management, I'm going to avoid discussing the day-by-day details. I'll pop in from time to time when major developments occur. Two more indictments are expected. I'll take the same approach with those.

I thank you and all other forum participants for the responses you have provided to date. They have been interesting and informative.
 
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Pilgrim

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The sympathy vote will continue to grow for Trump as Democrats and the Biden DOJ continue their political persecution. Republicans and moderates whose support for Trump was previously soft will rally to his cause now because they know this unprecedented corruption of our legal system is wrong. The squealing liberal media only serves to emphasize the two-tiered justice system that's evolved since Obama took office.
 
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Pilgrim

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But I suspect the party leaders behind closed doors are plotting to do one thing; help Trump become the authoritarian dictator of the United States.
I'm assuming this is meant to be sarcasm, but it's likely there are many in the AOC/Elizabeth Warren wing of the Democrat party who seriously believe it. This being in spite of the fact that they've moved Joe Biden closer to that status than any POTUS in modern history.
 

coalminer

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What Biden did could be compared to a bank robber making a heist, keeping the money for several years, then returning it after "finding" it in his garage and claiming no crime was committed. Totally absurd.
At least he didnt keep the documents intentionally to use them later for his own benefit. But he absolutely needs to be charged for that.
 
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danthewolf00

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At least he didnt keep the documents intentionally to use them later for his own benefit. But he absolutely needs to be charged for that.
Biden copied stuff into notebooks that were found with the classified documents in Biden's home.....and remember Biden has been in government office for over 45 years.
 
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danthewolf00

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Also....trump's lawyers were blocked from going in with the fbi agents in the mar logo raid.....but Biden's lawyers got to look through the classified documents BEFORE the fbi could.
But trump is the criminal.
 
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muttly

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Funny I am not hearing much about Biden and his own little crime of the very same thing trump has done......classified documents from as far back as a senator....not even crickets.
Because they’re in a cult.
 
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muttly

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I'm assuming this is meant to be sarcasm, but it's likely there are many in the AOC/Elizabeth Warren wing of the Democrat party who seriously believe it. This being in spite of the fact that they've moved Joe Biden closer to that status than any POTUS in modern history.
That had to be a joke. Because Biden signed off on criminalizing a NARA disagreement on his political opponent and probable Republican nominee. That’s what real authoritarians do.
 
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ATeam

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Donald Trump is Under Arrest ... Again

Trump is at the federal courthouse in Miami where he is surrendering to authorities and will be arrested and taken to the courtroom for arraignment. This is the first time he has been indicted and arrested for federal charges. A couple months ago, he was indicted and arrested for state charges in New York. Two more indictments are expected in coming months, one federal and one state. The indictment/arrest/arraignment processes in those will be similar.

While much can be said about this, one thing is it shows Trump's preferred legal strategy of deny, delay, defend is not working in these criminal cases like they often worked in his many civil cases. Trump is under arrest and not by choice. It was a big, big deal the first time. Because this is a first-time federal case, it's a big, big deal today. The next two times will be lesser bombshells, because it is becoming routine to see Trump in police custody and standing as a criminal defendant in court.
 

muttly

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Donald Trump is Under Arrest ... Again

Trump is at the federal courthouse in Miami where he is surrendering to authorities and will be arrested and taken to the courtroom for arraignment. This is the first time he has been indicted and arrested for federal charges. A couple months ago, he was indicted and arrested for state charges in New York. Two more indictments are expected in coming months, one federal and one state. The indictment/arrest/arraignment processes in those will be similar.

While much can be said about this, one thing is it shows Trump's preferred legal strategy of deny, delay, defend is not working in these criminal cases like they often worked in his many civil cases. Trump is under arrest and not by choice. It was a big, big deal the first time. Because this is a first-time federal case, it's a big, big deal today. The next two times will be lesser bombshells, because it is becoming routine to see Trump in police custody and standing as a criminal defendant in court.
Small potatoes actually.
 
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danthewolf00

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Donald Trump is Under Arrest ... Again

Trump is at the federal courthouse in Miami where he is surrendering to authorities and will be arrested and taken to the courtroom for arraignment. This is the first time he has been indicted and arrested for federal charges. A couple months ago, he was indicted and arrested for state charges in New York. Two more indictments are expected in coming months, one federal and one state. The indictment/arrest/arraignment processes in those will be similar.

While much can be said about this, one thing is it shows Trump's preferred legal strategy of deny, delay, defend is not working in these criminal cases like they often worked in his many civil cases. Trump is under arrest and not by choice. It was a big, big deal the first time. Because this is a first-time federal case, it's a big, big deal today. The next two times will be lesser bombshells, because it is becoming routine to see Trump in police custody and standing as a criminal defendant in court.
And the more the Republicans will support him.....because of it.
You don't do the things the Democrats are doing unless you fear the other guy or you live in a dictatorship.....
 
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