The Trump Card...

muttly

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All talk, no action. Good for stirring up the Trump base. Trump does terrible in court. Based on past history, Trump is not likely to do anything in court beyond try to delay anything and everything he can. And he is certainly unlikely to present any rational and legal arguments that motivate judges to agree with him. Regarding, court actions, Trump is probably has the worst win/loss record in American history.
His court cases are in DC and NY.
 
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coalminer

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Does that apply to Joe Biden? How about Chuck Schumer?

Edit: I forgot the worst of all - Hillary Clinton! Who still hasn't accepted the results of the 2016 presidential election. Yet she's still loved by the mainstream media and occasionally mentioned as a possible Democrat candidate in 2024.
Arrogance goes hand in hand with politicians. If they try to bring out Hillary for 2024 that is going to show once and for all that the fighting between the Republicans and Democrats are just one big show, neither party can field a decent candidate. We are screwed either way.
 

danthewolf00

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Arrogance goes hand in hand with politicians. If they try to bring out Hillary for 2024 that is going to show once and for all that the fighting between the Republicans and Democrats are just one big show, neither party can field a decent candidate. We are screwed either way.
And trump is still better than all of them.
 
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Pilgrim

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Exactly as I said. Delaying action. May be effective in short term but not in the ultimate result, which in all likelihood is yet another loss in court and the search will be upheld as legal.
This action will likely result in legal battles that go on for years, and the winner in court may or may not be Trump. However, Trump is winning in the court of public opinion. His name will remain in the headlines every day and he's not on a single ballot in Nov. This could turn out to be a monumental political blunder by Biden and his DOJ by making Trump the victim of jack-booted thugs straight out of 1930s Germany.
 

muttly

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And he lives rent free in many Democrat minds.....
If the Democrat leadership had just left trump alone he might not run in 2024 but no they just couldn't do that.
I’m sensing that there are some who previously may have been lukewarm about wanting Trump to run again are much more open to seeing him give it another go now after this unconstitutional raid. And it’s all because the Dems couldn’t let it go and leave it alone.
 

danthewolf00

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Right....sure.....it was getting handled by the national archive....but Democrats could not keep out of it they just had to do a raid and take stuff not covered by the warrant....Democrats pushed trump to want to run for office again.
 
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danthewolf00

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The fact that the fbi took attorney client privilege information and demanded that ALL video surveillance cameras be turned off should worry even Democrats....I think that in 9 hours a team of 30 agents could follow the warrant but apparently not.....I mean they took passports which the judge did not ask for.
 
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Pilgrim

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Back to equating a political opponent to the evil of all evils i see.

Can't get lower than that.
Just like Obama politicizing the IRS, the politicization of the FBI and using them in a raid against a former POTUS and likely 2024 presidential candidate is the type of action one would expect from a dictator or tyrant. If one doesn't like Hitler, then Stalin, Mao, Castro - all would be good examples of tyrants who harassed, intimidated or jailed their political opponents and those who opposed their policies. As the Democrat party drifts more towards socialism, we're seeing more of these tendencies from them.
 

ATeam

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An Interesting Preview

There is a special election for U.S House coming up in NY soon. While it's interesting to watch, it is always a mistake to read too much into one district's results and say it's a national trend. But this race lays things out nicely.

"The matchup in the 19th district, which Biden carried by less than 2 points in 2020, is between Ryan, an Army veteran and Ulster County executive who has campaigned aggressively on abortion rights, and Marc Molinaro, the Dutchess County executive who has framed his bid as a referendum on the Biden administration’s economic failures. He has rejected any attempt by Democrats to redirect the conversation." (Source)

Democrats learned the hard way last time. They learned it was not helpful to make Trump the issue and campaign on the basis that they are anti-Trump. They would have been better off campaigning for something instead of campaigning against a man. In this race, the Republican is campaigning against a man (Biden) and the Democrat is campaigning for abortion rights.

As I said, interesting to watch and it lays things out nicely.
With over 95% of the votes counted, this race has been called. The winner is Democrat Pat Ryan; 51.9% to 48.1%.

This result combined with the decisive statewide vote in Kansas that affirmed abortion rights adds credence to the idea that the recent U.S. Supreme Court ruling against abortion rights is a mobilizing factor that has voters turning out to vote blue.

As I said above, it is always a mistake to read too much into one district's results and say it is a national trend. But one district's results, plus a Kansas statewide vote, plus polling data seems to suggest that a Republican takeover of the the U.S. House, while still likely, is no longer something that can be casually assumed.

The polling data I'm referring to is this Five Thirty Eight ongoing generic ballot survey. Note the recent crossover showing Democrats now in the lead. That crossover is due to one thing, in my opinion. The Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.

With his piss-poor standing in the polls and low popularity, Biden was of no help to the Democratic candidate in the NY-19 district race, and he was of no help in the Kansas result. If NY-19, Kansas and current polling data actually reflect a shift in voter sentiment, that will be an ongoing and serious problem for Trump if he decides to run and for Republicans overall who cannot wiggle out from under a U.S. Supreme Court decision that cannot be easily reversed.

Another ongoing poll I'm watching is this U.S. House forecast. While Republican control of the House remains likely, notice how the numbers shifted in recent months.
 
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