The Trump Card...

RLENT

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In jail for over 6 months waiting trial for a non violent offense?
You don't see anything wrong with that?
Tell me again how the Left is for civil liberties and all that.

That conveniently ignores the fact that the Q kook with the horns left a threatening note for federal officials.

He's a potential danger to federal officials ... and possibly the general public as well.

Judge cited the fact that there was no one to release him into custody to that was capable of ensuring that he would abide by any conditions set for his release.

Apparently Mommy wasn't up to the task, being too worried and all, about seeing that her little dear got his all-natural, organic diet ... so his little tummy didn't get all upset.

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ATeam

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With new data available, it seems some of the TV pundits got it wrong. Contrary to what some have claimed, Donald Trump is NOT the worst president in the history of the U.S.

"C-SPAN released the rankings from its Historians Survey of Presidential Leadership, which is taken after each presidential transition, on Wednesday. This survey marks Trump's first appearance on the list, on which the one-term president placed higher than only three other presidents: Franklin Pierce, Andrew Johnson and the perpetually last-ranked James Buchanan." (Source)

Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States
(and the 4th-worst)
 
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muttly

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That conveniently ignores the fact that the Q kook with the horns left a threatening note for federal officials.

He's a potential danger to federal officials ... and possibly the general public as well.

Judge cited the fact that there was no one to release him into custody to that was capable of ensuring that he would abide by any conditions set for his release.

Apparently Mommy wasn't up to the task, being too worried and all, about seeing that her little dear got his all-natural, organic diet ... so his little tummy didn't get all upset.

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What did it say?
 

muttly

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I have never once told you "the Left is for civil liberties and all that." So there is no need to tell you again.
Ok then. Maybe it was just the impression i had of your comments of the legal system.
 

RLENT

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Got that right. Not the "same". Arsonist and others released quickly.

Different judges often render different decisions, even with similar circumstances.

That has happened even with some of the domestic terrorists that were involved in the January 6th riot and insurrection.

Meanwhile, we look forward to more pissing and moaning about how the poor oppressed terrorists are so put upon and how the authorities are being so mean to them.

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RLENT

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With new data available, it seems some of the TV pundits got it wrong. Contrary to what some have claimed, Donald Trump is NOT the worst president in the history of the U.S.

"C-SPAN released the rankings from its Historians Survey of Presidential Leadership, which is taken after each presidential transition, on Wednesday. This survey marks Trump's first appearance on the list, on which the one-term president placed higher than only three other presidents: Franklin Pierce, Andrew Johnson and the perpetually last-ranked James Buchanan." (Source)

I don't think Trump's place on that list is by any means assured.

Expect it, in time, to sink even further ...

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muttly

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Different judges often render different decisions, even with similar circumstances.

That has happened even with some of the domestic terrorists that were involved in the January 6th riot and insurrection.

Meanwhile, we look forward to more pissing and moaning about how the poor oppressed terrorists are so put upon and how the authorities are being so mean to them.

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Dude, they were ALL released after appearing in court.
 

ATeam

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I don't think Trump's place on that list is by any means assured.

Expect it, in time, to sink even further ...

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Wikipedia has a pretty good article about how these lists are developed and maintained. As you can see, they are somewhat fluid, but only to a point. To the extent such lists are part of a president's legacy, it seems Trump is destined to be ranked in the bottom five for a long time.

Historical rankings of presidents of the United States
 
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muttly

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Wikipedia has a pretty good article about how these lists are developed and maintained. As you can see, they are somewhat fluid, but only to a point. To the extent such lists are part of a president's legacy, it seems Trump is destined to be ranked in the bottom five for a long time.

Historical rankings of presidents of the United States
That would be a complete joke. We had a strong economy for much of his term until the Pandemic and state shutdowns. He also pushed to excellerate the vaccine program and vaccines(THREE of them) arrived in less than a year instead of 2 to 4 years which saved millions of lives.
 

RLENT

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That would be a complete joke. We had a strong economy for much of his term until the Pandemic and state shutdowns. He also pushed to excellerate the vaccine program and vaccines(THREE of them) arrived in less than a year instead of 2 to 4 years which saved millions of lives.

But his inaction and incompetence resulted in the deaths of over 600K Americans.

If you're gonna claim credit for the good, ya gots to pony up for the bad as well ...
 

muttly

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But his inaction and incompetence resulted in the deaths of over 600K Americans.

If you're gonna claim credit for the good, ya gots to pony up for the bad as well ...
So you would have let him declare Martial Law early on to attempt to put a lid on the virus? Not a chance you or the Left would have allowed that.
 
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RLENT

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So you would have let him declare Martial Law early on to attempt to put a lid on the virus? Not a chance you or the Left would have allowed that.

There's a wide range of possibilities between declaring martial law and doing pretty much nothing.

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