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Turtle

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im·peach·ment
/imˈpēCHmənt/

noun
  1. 1.
    (especially in the US) a charge of misconduct made against the holder of a public office.
  2. 2.
    the action of calling into question the integrity or validity of something.
    "the prosecutor's detailed impeachment of the character witness"
Yes, yes, yes, we all understand the semantics of Impeachment in the House versus the trial in the Senate. But the fact is, the sole purpose of constitutional impeachment by Congress is to remove civil office holders from the office they hold. There is no other purpose for impeachment under the Constitution.
 
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RLENT

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Ya got the political parties mixed up there.

Don't think so.

You know how they say the Left accuses the a a Right of doing the very things the Left has already been doing. It's true.

... "they" ... ?

If "they" is the political Right, then yes - I'm well aware that it's a claim they make.

:tearsofjoy:

The Democrat Party's motto is By Any Means Necessary.

Really ?

Is that from an official party publication that claims such ?

And they've proven over and over again in the last 4+ years to be true to that sentiment, and have demonstrated time and again there is no such thing as 'too low' to go when attempting to get what they want. They cast aside centuries of legal norms and constitutional principles to get their way. They have ruined careers and lives simply to get their way. And they're now going after freedom of thought and silencing dissent. Republicans don't do that. Democrats do, with aplomb.

Sure ...

:rolleyes:
 

RLENT

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Yes, yes, yes, we all understand the semantics of Impeachment in the House versus the trial in the Senate. But the fact is, the sole purpose of constitutional impeachment by Congress is to remove civil office holders from the office they hold. There is no other purpose for impeachment under the Constitution.

Is that in the instruction manual ?

Or part of a proclamation from the WeSaySo Corporation ?

The United State's Senate found in 1876 - by a vote of 37 to 29 - that it had the power to try the impeachment of an ex-office holder, no longer holding office.

Furthermore, they voted to convict 35 to 25.

While that latter vote didn't meet the constitutionally-required threshold to sustain a conviction, nonetheless the Senate found as a body (implicitly, by their original vote) that they had a purpose for holding a trial, the consequences of which could have been a conviction.

Otherwise, why bother to hold a trial ?
 
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Turtle

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Is that in the instruction manual ?
Yes, it is.
The United State's Senate found in 1876 - by a vote of 37 to 29 - that it had the power to try the impeachment of an ex-office holder, no longer holding office.
The "power to try" an impeachment is very different from the "purpose" of the impeachment. The purpose of an impeachment is to remove from office. The purpose of the trial is to judge the case.
 
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muttly

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Wow, they're going after private citizens that are out of office.
Has this ever happened to a former president before? No
#Shampeachment
 

Ragman

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This is an unconstitutional excercise.
We have constitutional scholars members here on E/O.
Wow, they're going after private citizens that are out of office.
Has this ever happened to a former president before? No
#Shampeachment
Just a "private citizen"! What a bunch of bull titties!

 
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muttly

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We have constitutional scholars members here on E/O.

Just a "private citizen"! What a bunch of bull titties!

What public office does he currently have in government?
#Nojurisdiction
 

RLENT

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Yes, it is.

Where exactly does one find that ?

Seckret decoder ring required ?

:tearsofjoy:

The "power to try" an impeachment is very different from the "purpose" of the impeachment. The purpose of an impeachment is to remove from office.

The purpose of impeachment is actually twofold:

1. Removal from office

and

2. Bar from holding future office.

One of those becoming moot, does not necessarily automatically moot the other.

The purpose of the trial is to judge the case.

And potentially render a verdict.

And when the Senate decides that they have the power to try a case of an ex-officeholder, it follows that they have the power to impose whatever penalty the verdict calls for, should there be one.
 

RLENT

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Can't say I'm real impressed with Castor's performance.

Schoen hands seem to be trembling ... nerves ?

Or does he have some kind of condition ? (palsy, etc. ?)

Anyone know ?
 

muttly

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... "ex-officials" is spelled wrong above.

:tearsofjoy:



We've been very fortunate ... in that no one of such debased, immoral character has ever attained the office before Trump.

Hopefully never again ...



Bi-partisan, actually.

:tonguewink:
Trump made them do it excuse.
 
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