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Turtle

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Rigged regarding many in the media for sure.
Not happy with the media's coverage or conduct ?

Then build your own ...
That's not really a viable option for the general public. The media and the public are far more intertwined and mutually implicated than either chooses to acknowledge. As Brooke Gladstone argues in her graphic book "The Influencing Machine," maybe all we can really hope for is is more explicit acknowledgement of news media biases. It used to be easy to discern honest and biased media because there were relatively so few outlets to inundate people. In the 1890s when Joseph Pulitzer and William Randolph Hearst practically invented "yellow journalism" is was easy to spot, be it in terms of sensationalist stories and headlines or that of a distinct bias. Most people knew what they were reading. (Great quote from an English magazine in 1898 noted, "All American journalism is not ‘yellow’, though all strictly ‘up-to-date’ yellow journalism is American!")

But now with the advent of the Internet and electronic media, and with it being so easy for vastly large numbers of media outlets to connect in real-time in collusion with each other (and in far too many cases, political campaigns and elected officials), and the desire for people to seek out confirmational biased news, it makes it far more difficult to see unless you make the effort and know what you're looking for.

A system of objective metrics used by the public may hold news media more accountable:
  • ratio of fact statements to judgement (editorial) statements
  • fraction of arguments that are well reasoned (i.e., conclusion follows logically from premise)
  • reliance on credentialed experts rather than staff analysts (esp. for TV)
It's hard to see it anymore, because reporters will stand there and give you the facts of a story, and intermixed with the facts come their own views and judgements. And it flows out of them effortlessly.

And journalists interviewing journalists is just the worst.

The anger of the public is beginning to be recognized by many in the media, although they aren't really doing anything about it. The Wikileaks files that shine a bright light on the media will help dial it back, but it won't eliminated it. Few would argue that complete objectivity is possible. As a group, journalists probably have more opinions than most, and it is very rare that a reporter starts working on a story without having some point of view. The liberal bias in media isn't going away, as most journalists are liberals to begin with. What journalists should know, and the public should expect, it not a bland restatement of the facts, but objectivity it the method and not necessarily in the journalist. Meaning, journalists inevitably arrive to a story with bias that they needed objectivity as a discipline to test that bias against the evidence so as to produce journalism that is be closer to truth.

After all, the role of the journalist is to be an honest broker of the truth. That doesn't mean it can't have a bias, a point of view. It just needs to be honestly brokered. What is happening in this election cycle in particular (and has been going on in general ever since Watergate) is a dishonest brokering of the truth. where they claim no bias (that's the first red flag) while surreptitiously advancing the goals of a political agenda.

All the public can really do is use the objective metrics above in their own assessments of news, and call the press out on it when they fail to deliver an honest brokering of the news. I'm afraid, though, that little will change without a change in ratings or subscribership at the major outlets.
 

RLENT

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More predictions aka "The Apocalypse Doomsday Scenario" (not really ... it's actually humor ...)

1. Clinton wins in a landslide ... including Texas (a squeaker)

2. The D's take the Senate.

3. For the next Supreme Court Justice Preznit Hillz nominates ... (wait for it) ...

Barry Bamz ... who, of course, will be the first Kenyan Muslim Supreme Court Justice of The United States ...

Could happen ...
 

RLENT

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Another follow-on prediction coming off the last (mebbe humorous ... or not) set:

1. Depending on which way things seem to be heading, Mitch McConnell starts thinking that having someone who at least appears to be somewhat moderate (that would be ... ahhh ... one Merrick Garland) might just be a far better option for filling that vacant SCOTUS seat than, say ... God-only-knows-who Preznit Hillz might nominate ...
 

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Joe DiMaggio, Victor Borge, and Anita Bryant, Muhammad Ali, Rosa Parks, Donald Trump, 1986

The National Ethnic Coalition of Organizations sponsors the Ellis Island Medals of Honor which are presented annually to American citizens who have distinguished themselves within their own ethnic groups while exemplifying the values of the American way of life. Past Medalists include six U.S. Presidents, one foreign President, Nobel Prize winners and leaders of industry, education, the arts, sports and government, along with everyday Americans who have made freedom, liberty and compassion a part of their life's work. Hillary Clinton received the award in 1999.

Trump most definitely has been accused of racism in the past, beginning in 1973, when the Trump Management Corporation was sued by the Department of Justice and charged for violating the Fair Housing Act of 1968. That one was settled out of court. And it's probably the one time where the charge of racism was totally true. The other dozen or so times, maybe maybe not. That's certainly no proof that Trump currently harbors racists ideals. Over the years he's funded many inner city youth groups for minorities, usually under the radar. He currently and previously has many minorities in executive and upper management positions in his companies.

He prefers his chief financial officers and accountants to be Jews, but that's not racist, that's just smart. :D
 

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Mr Trump has issued a proposal, to term limit the U.S. Congress. I think I would like to see that idea explored further Not that it 's a new proposal, still interesting.
I agree. If course, there didn't used to be a two term limit on the President, but then FDR kept getting elected. The negative side to term limits is they are telling people who they can vote for, or more accurately, who they can't vote for.

The Founding Fathers set up the House of Representatives to serve 2-year terms, so they could serve their terms and then go back home to their family, friends and businesses. But things haven't worked out that way.

They set up the Senate for 6-year terms, but so that one-third of the the Senate seats would be up for election every 2 years, so that every 6 years the entire Senate would be turned over. That didn't work out well.

Now that the President has a 2-term limit of a total of 8 years, I think it's reasonable to limit Senators to a 2-term limit of 12 years, and Congressmen (including Congresswomen) to 3-terms totaling 6 years. The more often we can get new people in the Congress who are a little more in touch with the people back home, the better.

The average historic tenure for a US Senator is 7.93 years. Which is 1.32 terms. But that includes all of them. If you look at the Senate since 1950, then the average length of service is 12 years.

The Congressional Research Service has a report (PDF) that lists the average length of service for each Congress, but I can't find the most recent filing on it (I admit I haven't look very hard). But the average years of service for Members of the 111th Congress, as of January 3, 2009, when the Congress convened was 10.1 years for the House and 12.3 years for the Senate.

The report also states in the introduction...

"During the early history of Congress, turnover in membership was frequent, and resignations were commonplace. Although the Constitution provides that U.S. Senators serve for a term of six years, it was not until the 50th Congress (1887-1889) that the average tenure of Senators reached six years. While the average service of Members of the House began to exceed their two-year term by the Fourth Congress (1795-1797), it did not rise above four years until the 57th Congress (1901-1903). According to political scientist Randall Ripley, “In the pre-modern Congress, Members came and went rapidly. There were few senior members. Life in Washington was not pleasant; Congress did not seem very important, and the unstable party situation often made reelection difficult to achieve.”
 

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Even the ultra conservative Nolan Finley of the Detroit News has had enough of Trumpetts shenanigans.

Finley: Trump’s noncommittal to outcome the last straw
You'd think someone who is trying to beat Trump over the head with the Constitution would know what's in it. While berating Trump for going against the Constitution and the wishes of the Founding Fathers, he manages to invent brand new qualifications to be President.
 
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Even the ultra conservative Nolan Finley of the Detroit News has had enough of Trumpetts shenanigans.

Finley: Trump’s noncommittal to outcome the last straw
You'd think someone who is trying to beat Trump over the head with the Constitution would know what's in it. While berating Trump for going against the Constitution and the wishes of the Founding Fathers, he manages to invent brand new qualifications to be President.
Care to elaborate? I don't see it.
 

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Care to elaborate? I don't see it.
I order to be qualified for president, a presidential candidate must be at least 35 years old, a natural-born U.S. citizen, and have at least 14 years of residence in the United States. Nolan Finley thinks one of the qualifications is that a candidate must commit in advance to accepting the results of the election,and if a candidate refuses to do so that candidate is thus disqualified from being president.

Furthermore, he says anyone who casts a vote for Trump doesn't believe in what America stands for (like, oh, I dunno, freedom of thought).
 

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Nolan Finley and their editorial board already endorsed Gary Johnson. He already had made his decision about Trump. He is just whining about something Trump said that is much ado about nothing.
 
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Trump never even said he wouldn't accept the results. He just said he would let us know at the time. There's no reason to concede an election. The vast majority of elections in this country occur without anyone ever conceding. We will all know for sure who won this election when the Electors' votes are read before Congress, same as it's always been.
 

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