mcavoy33
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This is basically what I was getting at with my post. Its obvious that both parties have moved on, I was just pointing out from a technical stand point, it was weird and silly.
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This is basically what I was getting at with my post. Its obvious that both parties have moved on, I was just pointing out from a technical stand point, it was weird and silly.
moose
Veteran Expediter
I would take your word when it comes to Expedite, but this is certainly not the case in the Truck load segment.
at least not yet.
there are many industry publications to support your observations, but for the most part it is a wishful thinking at best, and market manipulations at worst.
a good example is the new trucks back orders. it's looks like we are tens of thousands of trucks behind.
this is, as expected, do to the industry waiting 3 to 4 years for the new SCR motors to be available. it really is look scary, until you dig in to see hoe is the costumers for all of those new trucks.
it is NOT the O/O, you know, the ones that move the freight. it is almost only large carriers, and worlds markets.
in realty truck manufacturing back orders is NOT effecting rates, not for now.
which is why the good o'l ATA is in support of new emissions control regulations.
same goe's to the good o'l drivers shortage, there is none, it's a hoaks, it is or they would have shot the revolving door.
there are some very good rates out there, but from what i'm seeing only where exceptional marketing and service is being provided, not in traditional service.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Moose,
I'm still trying to find the driver shortage and the capacity shortage. I am finding a shortage of people who want to work but no shortage of those who expect top rates for doing simple things.
I thought the CSA was to cut the bad out of the fleets and provide BIG GAPS for good drivers to fill, but I have yet to see that from happening at all, even now with it screwed up as it is.
Truck sales is not an indicator of how well O/O are doing, many older trucks are on the road and only those large fleets through leasing companies are replacing their trucks before they are faced with end of life cycle issues. On top of that, a lot of medium and large companies in California have to plan on upgrades thanks to carb with their pollution control mitigation planning system they forced on the companies.
I'm still trying to find the driver shortage and the capacity shortage. I am finding a shortage of people who want to work but no shortage of those who expect top rates for doing simple things.
I thought the CSA was to cut the bad out of the fleets and provide BIG GAPS for good drivers to fill, but I have yet to see that from happening at all, even now with it screwed up as it is.
Truck sales is not an indicator of how well O/O are doing, many older trucks are on the road and only those large fleets through leasing companies are replacing their trucks before they are faced with end of life cycle issues. On top of that, a lot of medium and large companies in California have to plan on upgrades thanks to carb with their pollution control mitigation planning system they forced on the companies.
Notice my choice of words: This is a time in the trucking industry where driver shortages and capacity shortages are beginning to manifest themselves and show up in the form of higher rates.
It's spotty. Construction trucking has not picked up because new home construction has not picked up, for example. Manufacturing has picked up so trucks serving that sector have also picked up. We were told in orientation class at our new carrier that they see rates rising. Drivers in the expedite division tell us they see rates higher from a year ago.
Spent the late 90's on new home construction, as a mason's helper. I believe it will be a long time before new home construction reaches the levels it did before the crisis hit. A LONNNG time.
Yeah Pat said he spoke with you a couple of weeks ago.
I wish you well in your chasing of the rainbow.
While what ruffled your feathers and ultimately made you change may be the same that moves us or other people to hopefully greener pastures.
The sad part is Fedex is openly going into competition with its own.
While our numbers are healthy yours may indeed have sucked and you did what you had to do to survive.
I watch with a critical eye, while it is still a very good situation for us future changes may prompt us to make our own "ANNOUNCEMENT".
Be safe and raise my rates.
Yeah Pat said he spoke with you a couple of weeks ago.
I wish you well in your chasing of the rainbow.
While what ruffled your feathers and ultimately made you change may be the same that moves us or other people to hopefully greener pastures.
The sad part is Fedex is openly going into competition with its own.
While our numbers are healthy yours may indeed have sucked and you did what you had to do to survive.
I watch with a critical eye, while it is still a very good situation for us future changes may prompt us to make our own "ANNOUNCEMENT".
Be safe and raise my rates.
As a Contractor, working for a Contractor, working for Fedup, what is your spin on YOUR future?? Jes curious. You seem to be a Fat Cat (by your typing), but, in fact, how may calls have you made? I'm jes trying to be a "good" part of the EO community and "share" info and questions......as stupid as they may seem.
Brisco
Expert Expediter
Nah......Just trying to take over the role of "Head Pom Pom Holder/Head Cheerleader" for FedEx now that Phil has stepped down.
In "how many calls have you made" do you mean contact other companies, phoned home, umpired baseball games, or maybe whistled at girls?
Jes tryin yo get a clear meaning here.
But my spin is this.
I try to stay on top of the topics that concern my income.
Speaking with those in the biz, reading journals and industry rags. Even reading threads on EO. (Believing is another thing)
The only thing that keeps us in this arena is its simplicity.
I hear a beep I see a set of numbers.
Ten seconds later I say yes or no.
Wait a few minutes to see if I am making any money.
That simplistic almost moronic ritual allows my wife and I the
chance to travel the USA and see our great country.
At 60 years of age I am just about done in the work force.
If the nuances of the job become to much to bear or not cost efficient for us we will leave.
Another spin, more importantly is what will the owner do?
$1.00 +FSC seems like a hard thing to handle for fleet owners.
Someone will take it in the shorts when the fuel bill comes due.
Fat cat, nah , just a white haired old coot that plays git fiddle.
But, like many I have danced to the tune and even called the
steps, the changes going on are nothing more than a breeze stirring the leaves on the tree.
Flexible ones will remain other will be blown away.
Now, since ya got me to spin, what ABOUT YOU.
I would welcome some words of wisdom from you.
Give us some sustenance.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Dave,
Don't take this wrong but ...
I hear a beep I see a set of numbers.
Ten seconds later I say yes or no.
Wait a few minutes to see if I am making any money.
Ten seconds to make a decision and have to wait for an answer.
Isn't that rather a unfulfilling way to make money?
I may be way off with this one but I think his point is calling to hustle for work, not different companies.
Don't take this wrong but ...
I hear a beep I see a set of numbers.
Ten seconds later I say yes or no.
Wait a few minutes to see if I am making any money.
Ten seconds to make a decision and have to wait for an answer.
Isn't that rather a unfulfilling way to make money?
I may be way off with this one but I think his point is calling to hustle for work, not different companies.
Geez, if people keep answering for him he will never say anything with substance.
Greg you defend your idea of success very strongly.
Why does my fulfillment have to fall under scrutiny.
This experience is doing exactly what we set out to do.
Some call it RVing some paid vacation.
When we first got into expediting I wanted an opportunity that could create cash flow, did it, see more of the country, doing it,
thought about becoming an owner, opted not, set an escape
plan, in tact.
I have a friend who operates a punch press.
Put a blank piece of metal in a jig, push a button, three seconds later take out a formed piece of metal, repeat process 40+ hours a week.
He paid his home off a couple of years ago.
Put his kids thru college.
Gets a new vehicle every 5 or 6 years.
We vacation together.
He says his job has fulfilled his needs.
Who is to question him?
This is a no brainer. Why make it out to be anything more.
Being an OO or fleet owner or indy throws more into the equation.
I have run that route in other industries. I dont need to here.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Well Dave, it wasn't really directed at your operating but questioning the bigger scheme of things in a way. I think you have the right attitude with much of what we do here but those who are limited to thinking that this is what life is, I can't help but asking if this is an unfulfilled way to make money.
No matter what I think, your success, and that of others with a company that is supposedly sinking quick with no life boats speaks to what I am saying about what someone's news is really about, there is a lot more to the story than what he says and what others want to defend him on.
No matter what I think, your success, and that of others with a company that is supposedly sinking quick with no life boats speaks to what I am saying about what someone's news is really about, there is a lot more to the story than what he says and what others want to defend him on.
jaminjim
Veteran Expediter
No Greg you are only talking about Phil, no bigger scheme at all.
What we do here? You mean what Phil does or says.... right?
Huh? It's pretty much all about the money, and some side benefits. (seeing the USofA at night
is one that comes to mind)But until you get tired of ragging on Phil we will continue to hear what you think of him.
Would you mind sharing where Phil has said the Company is sinking? I have only seen where he said that it was the beginning of the end for making obscene pay per mile because of the introduction of Company owned equipment with preferential dispatch.
Thought he got on the boat when he went with another Carrier.
Care to share? If not it would be just another shot at Phil.
Care to share? My bet is no. Just a comment designed to make people think you and a few other people are in the 'know'
Most are not defending Phil as much as they are questioning you and a few others for trying to make it personal (no mater how much you deny it).
You brought up earlier that your 'problem with Phil predates a lot of members here. I have been here several years so I have been able to read the battles for years. You couldn't stand that he bought a luxury type of truck while he sold most of his earthly possessions to be able to afford it, and committed to stay out on the road as opposed to going home every month or so. If what Phil says is true he paid for the truck in a couple of years so was he wrong? It' seems to have worked out well for him the last seven or eight years. Will it continue to? I don't know, do you?
Your next tirade with him was when you left the Fed, you complained about favoritism, You not getting into WG, you not getting those sweet runs because you didn't have a 'team' truck, and just how totally unfair it was for fleet owners to put new drivers into a WG TVAL truck and you were left wanting. So you started a campaign telling people that at the beginning of the year big changes were going to happen for people at the Fed, "just wait" you said things are a changing. Of course you said you were not at liberty to share those changes because you were told by some people very high up in the organization about those changes.
Never did hear about those changes, what were they back in '06 or '07?Your next problem started with Phil stating that he thought it was possible to have a million dollars after twenty years of expediting if a team was willing to make the necessary sacrifices. That is where your millionaire avatar comes from. At the time you were struggling in the trucking industry because of your attempts to mold the industry to your truck and wants. So you attacked Phil every chance you got, and still do.
The topic is: about Fedex/ATeam...NOT Greg334 or anyone else...
BACK to the topic Please...
BACK to the topic Please...
This is a great statement Jim and one that is so true.
We often think if the company would just do "this" all problems would be solved. That is why I go on my rants if we want the company to conform to us and our needs we need to get our own authority and the new company would be called "Caffee Express" Once called this name I could try and make the company fit my wants and needs and forgot totally about who the customer really is and who calls the shots!
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