The madness of Fergerson
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A horrible joke? A planned disaster? [Planned by whom?!]
Neither of those seems remotely relevant to what's happened in Ferguson, which is the boiling over of long simmering anger, exacerbated by the aggressive military response of law enforcement, which set the stage for self aggrandizing jerks like Sharpton to whip up a frenzy.
Racism has been entrenched in America as long as there's been an America - ignoring it is how we get to Ferguson. Until we agree to address it, there will be more, and probably worse eruptions of violence.
They are running those stories for a reason, to drum up as much trouble as possible. They are doing all they can to incite riots. It is not an accident, or time filling, that those stories are being run. Civil unrest is a tool and it is being used to further an agenda. The media is doing it's best to further that agenda.
No decision on Friday , could trigger riots anyway, lot of anger, lot of venting to be done, it is just Watts and Detroit all over again. It will die down eventually and somewhere in time, it will happen again, it always does............imho
- The Washington Times - Saturday, November 22, 2014
The Ferguson, Mo., grand jury considering the indictment of Officer Darren Wilson, who killed teenager Michael Brown during an altercation in August, left the justice center in St. Louis on Friday without reaching a decision.
Sources told CNN on Saturday that it was unclear when the jury would reconvene.
SEE ALSO: Ferguson fallout: Few Americans say officer should be indicted; 81% predict violent reaction
Natalie DuBose, owner of Natalie Cakes and More in Ferguson told CNN she has had fewer customers in anticipation of the jury’s decision.
“If I can’t open my doors every morning, I can’t feed my kids in the evening,” said Ms. DuBose, a mother of two said, and asked protesters to spare her shop, the network reported.
“Just don’t burn my shop down. Don’t destroy it,” she pleaded.
SEE ALSO: FBI sends nearly 100 additional agents to Ferguson
Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon declared a state of emergency and deployed the National Guard to Ferguson last week as law enforcement prepares for more violence in the streets.
Protesters are already planning to shut down roads in the area after the decision is announced.
Protest groups, schools, and local business have requested a 48-hour advanced notice of the decision, but that request has not been granted.
Community leaders, activists, and the family of the slain teenager, Michael Brown, have asked for calm and peaceful demonstrations.
On Friday President Obama echoed those pleas, urging protesters to follow the rule of law.
“This is a country that allows everybody to express their views, allows them to peacefully assemble, to protest actions that they think are unjust,” Mr. Obama told ABC News in an interview broadcast Friday. “But using any event as an excuse for violence is contrary to rule of law and contrary to who we are.”
But protesters are still assembling and police arrested three more on Friday after a group blocking traffic refused to move out of the road, CNN reported.
Many of the protests are taking place on West Florissant Avenue, which crosses the road where Mr. Brown was killed by Officer Darren Wilson in August.
One woman told CNN she wishes everyone would just go home.
Read more: Ferguson grand jury fails to reach decision on Darren Wilson indictment - Washington Times
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter
- The Washington Times - Saturday, November 22, 2014
The Ferguson, Mo., grand jury considering the indictment of Officer Darren Wilson, who killed teenager Michael Brown during an altercation in August, left the justice center in St. Louis on Friday without reaching a decision.
Sources told CNN on Saturday that it was unclear when the jury would reconvene.
SEE ALSO: Ferguson fallout: Few Americans say officer should be indicted; 81% predict violent reaction
Natalie DuBose, owner of Natalie Cakes and More in Ferguson told CNN she has had fewer customers in anticipation of the jury’s decision.
“If I can’t open my doors every morning, I can’t feed my kids in the evening,” said Ms. DuBose, a mother of two said, and asked protesters to spare her shop, the network reported.
“Just don’t burn my shop down. Don’t destroy it,” she pleaded.
SEE ALSO: FBI sends nearly 100 additional agents to Ferguson
Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon declared a state of emergency and deployed the National Guard to Ferguson last week as law enforcement prepares for more violence in the streets.
Protesters are already planning to shut down roads in the area after the decision is announced.
Protest groups, schools, and local business have requested a 48-hour advanced notice of the decision, but that request has not been granted.
Community leaders, activists, and the family of the slain teenager, Michael Brown, have asked for calm and peaceful demonstrations.
On Friday President Obama echoed those pleas, urging protesters to follow the rule of law.
“This is a country that allows everybody to express their views, allows them to peacefully assemble, to protest actions that they think are unjust,” Mr. Obama told ABC News in an interview broadcast Friday. “But using any event as an excuse for violence is contrary to rule of law and contrary to who we are.”
But protesters are still assembling and police arrested three more on Friday after a group blocking traffic refused to move out of the road, CNN reported.
Many of the protests are taking place on West Florissant Avenue, which crosses the road where Mr. Brown was killed by Officer Darren Wilson in August.
One woman told CNN she wishes everyone would just go home.
Read more: Ferguson grand jury fails to reach decision on Darren Wilson indictment - Washington Times
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter
The riots, assuming they take place, will not be quite as big, or wide spread, as many are hoping they will be. It's not warm out. Riots are less likely to be effective when it's cold as compared to warm, or better yet, hot weather.
Watch for increasing attempts to gin up civil unrest as we head into the election of 2016.
Watch for increasing attempts to gin up civil unrest as we head into the election of 2016.
Jethro Bodine would be a better choice for president than Obama or any other candidate we have seen over the last 70 years or so.
The lead story being that 'nothing happened' is quite possibly the world's worst and most ineffective method at drumming up trouble. No, it's being done to stoke the fires of anticipation of the Big Story, in a naked attempt at a ratings grab.
No they aren't.
No it's not an accident. It's done quite intentionally to bolster ratings. Even boring, ongoing news stories are presented as Breaking News to make the relatively unimportant seem wildly important, so as to make stop whatever you are doing and sit up and take notice. "Breaking News! Nothing happened! And now we're going to tell you all about it!"
Yeah, the agenda of correcting a civil injustice, be it racism, abortion, Prohibition, or taxes on tea.
Uhm, that's actually the role of the media, to report what's happening. They shouldn't be reporting the nothingness of an ongoing story as Breaking News, tho, since it lends artificial weight to the unimportant. The problem with is, when something important does break, it'll be presented with the same ol' Breaking News. Unless they go with a screaming SHATTERING NEWS, PEOPLE!!!!
You are entitled to believe what ever you wish. Governments through out history have used the press for nefarious reasons. NO government on this planet, including ours, is beyond that.
Story after story that is "reported" is often wrong, deliberately, to push this administrations agenda. It has happened in the past with other administrations. They have used "news reports" to discredit candidates, by either out right lying, or heavily "slanting" the truth.
Obama tells lies, the press prints them as fact. Just ONE example, there are NO sporting uses for AR style rifles. Why would they do that? This administration is opposed to private firearms ownership and much of the press today is doing all that they can to push those lies as truth because they are in lock step with Obama on that, and many other, issues.
I put NOTHING past our "Free Press". They cannot be trusted, the same can be said for our government. Neither have been trust worthy for a VERY long time.
Story after story that is "reported" is often wrong, deliberately, to push this administrations agenda. It has happened in the past with other administrations. They have used "news reports" to discredit candidates, by either out right lying, or heavily "slanting" the truth.
Obama tells lies, the press prints them as fact. Just ONE example, there are NO sporting uses for AR style rifles. Why would they do that? This administration is opposed to private firearms ownership and much of the press today is doing all that they can to push those lies as truth because they are in lock step with Obama on that, and many other, issues.
I put NOTHING past our "Free Press". They cannot be trusted, the same can be said for our government. Neither have been trust worthy for a VERY long time.
They're Comming to take me away (funny farm),: http://youtu.be/DxVkAhto0Ag
Apparently it's so pervasive and ubiquitous that you can't even see it.
"Driving While Black" is actually a thing that black people get pulled over for. A black man running while not wearing a sports uniform is probably guilty of something, so he gets stopped and questioned. A black man walking through a white neighborhood while wearing a hoodie, why, he might as well have a target on his shirt. Two white youths walking in the street are ignored by a police officer while two black youths walking in the street are screamed at with profanities by the same officer for doing the same exact thing.
The U.S. criminal justice system is a race-based institution where blacks are directly targeted and punished in a much more aggressive way than white people. People will try and disagree with that, but they can't back it up.
The US has seen a massive surge in arrests and putting people in jail over the last four decades. Most of the reason is the War on Drugs. Yet whites and blacks engage in drug offenses, possession and sales, at virtually the same rates. While blacks 13% of the US population and 14% of monthly drug users they are 37% of the people arrested for drug offenses. That's racial injustice on a grand scale.
The police stop blacks and Latinos at rates that are much higher than whites. In New York City, for example, where people of color make up about half of the population, 80% of the NYPD stops were of blacks and Latinos. When whites were stopped, only 8% were frisked. When blacks and Latinos are stopped 85% were frisked according to information provided by the NYPD. The same is true most other places as well. In a California study, blacks are three times more likely to be stopped than whites.
Once arrested, blacks are more likely to be denied bail and remain in prison awaiting trial than whites. A 1995 review of processing felony arrests found that blacks are 25% more likely to be detained awaiting felony trials than whites facing felony trials. In some cities it's as high as 35%. It should be zero.
Blacks are routinely excluded from criminal jury service according to a June 2010 study released by the American Bar Association. For example in Houston County, Alabama, 8 out of 10 blacks qualified for jury service have been struck by prosecutors from serving on death penalty cases.
Whites are 20% more likely to receive probation for drug offenses, while blacks are 20% more likely to receive jail time. Blacks are also receiving jail sentences which are 20% longer than whites for the same crimes. Whites get a break while blacks get the book thrown at them.
The longer the sentence, the more likely it is that non-white people will be the ones getting it. Two-thirds of the people in the US with life sentences are non-white. In New York, it is 83%.
The US Bureau of Justice Statistics concludes that the chance of a black male born in 2001 of going to jail is 32% or 1 in three. White males have a 6% chance. Thus black boys are five times as likely as white boys to go to jail. The racists among us, while vehemently denying being racist, will simply state that blacks commit more crime, and they will say that while ignoring the stop, frisk, arrest, and conviction numbers above.
But it gets better. Even when released from prison, race continues to dominate. A study by Professor Devah Pager of the University of Wisconsin found that 17% of white job applicants with criminal records received call backs from employers while only 5% of black job applicants with criminal records received call backs. The study showed that race is so prominent that whites with criminal records actually received better treatment than blacks without criminal records.
Finally, the stereotypical example of the joke of blind justice.
Rodney King was a black taxicab driver who, prior to the 1992 Los Angeles riots, was beaten by Los Angeles Police Department officers (Laurence Powell, Timothy Wind, Theodore Briseno and Sergeant Stacey Koon) after being chased for speeding. A bystander, George Holliday, videotaped much of the event. The video was broadcast around the world and shows four LA police officers restraining and repeatedly striking a black man, while four to six other officers stand by watching. For speeding, mind you.
The beating raised a public outrage, which many people found to be clearly racially motivated and gratuitous. Not surprisingly, this raised tensions between the black community and the LAPD. The four officers were tried in a state court for assault with a deadly weapon and use of excessive force. All four were acquitted of using excessive force, and the jury was undecided on the use of a deadly weapon by Powell. This sparked the 1992 Los Angeles riots.
The jury consisted of Ventura County residents — ten whites, one Latino and one Asian. The trial was moved from LA County to Ventura County specifically to obtain the desired racial mix of the jurors, meaning few or no blacks. The jury easily acquitted three of the officers, but could not agree about one of the charges for Powell. On April 29, 1992, only Powell was convicted, of a lesser charge of simple assault.
Uhm, dood, I simply made a point about the ridiculousness of the use of Breaking News with regard to nothing happening in Ferguson, which you said was in no way relevant to what is happening in Ferguson. Then you rant about the media using the tired Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead headline ploy to incite riots, Obama, AR rifles, discrediting candidates, and the government's nefarious use of the press? Because all that crap is somehow wholly relevant to CNN and Fox News using Breaking News to announce nothing is happening? What's wrong with you?
I don't recall anyone ever saying the police didn't have a reason to stop him. They clearly did.
The problem is, King was tried, convicted and sentenced to be beaten to a pulp by a platoon of white police officers who took it upon themselves to play the roles of the prosecution, defense, judge and jury. And that's why 2 of the officers were later tried and convicted in a real court for Constitutional civil rights violations.
I can't believe you're defending the actions of the police officers. No, wait, I can believe it.
You reiterated at the end of the paragraph that he was beaten because he was speeding.
Turtle wrote-- For speeding, mind you.
The officers had to use a stun gun twice. He wouldn't stay down. At the beginning he also lunged at an officer. Officers initially tried to arrest him but due to his size and because he was resisting, they weren't able to do so . The baton hits were used to get him to stay in the prone position so they could cuff him. Were some of the hits excessive? Probably so.
This was also a potentially dangerous situation, due to his size, not obeying the officers, his aggressive and bizarre behavior. He was also intoxicated.
Most of what the officers did in subduing King was legally justified.
Just disagree with your as usual use of hyperbole in describing events and facts.
Turtle wrote-- For speeding, mind you.
The officers had to use a stun gun twice. He wouldn't stay down. At the beginning he also lunged at an officer. Officers initially tried to arrest him but due to his size and because he was resisting, they weren't able to do so . The baton hits were used to get him to stay in the prone position so they could cuff him. Were some of the hits excessive? Probably so.
This was also a potentially dangerous situation, due to his size, not obeying the officers, his aggressive and bizarre behavior. He was also intoxicated.
Most of what the officers did in subduing King was legally justified.
Just disagree with your as usual use of hyperbole in describing events and facts.
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