Tennesseahawk
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If you have an opposing argument, please share it.
The madness of Fergerson
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If you have an opposing argument, please share it.
Tennesseahawk
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Put away the drama, mama.
2 Taser hits, 33 baton strikes, 6 boot kicks. 11 skull fractures, fractures in knees, elbows and wrists, multiple contusions and lacerations, kidney damage and permanent brain damage.
Yes, yes, yes, it was mostly legally justified, by a legal justice system comprised chiefly of whites that is stacked against blacks, as the numbers above show. That's why the charges of DUI, evading arrest and speeding were dropped due to lack of evidence, because those charges is what justified the beating. Whoops. The legal justification of it all is also why none of those officers remained on the force, and is why King was awarded $3.8 million from the city in a civil suit.
Like I said, I believe it... you don't need to keep trying to convince me. He was black and drunk... you're right... I can't think of a better justification for him getting beaten to a pulp.
Tennesseahawk
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Hyperbole consists of exaggerated statements not to be taken literally. Yet everything I've said is the literal truth. So, no, just because you say something doesn't make it so.
According to District Attorney Ira Reiner (the guy who was in charge of filing the charges) that's exactly why they were dropped. With all due respect, I'll take his word over yours.
Yes, I get it (although the assaulting an officer was unsuccessfully argued in court), and that utterly justifies being beaten like he was. I believe you.
Of course it does, the police are out of control. But it doesn't happen to whites with anywhere near the frequency that it does to blacks, as the numbers prove.
Tennesseahawk
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On the same token, whites tend not to make up knock-out games, or do a drive-by on an innocent jogger cause "we was bored." I would say it happens more to blacks, because blacks are letting the Ns speak for the whole race, with their stupid, selfish, and reckless actions.
No, they don't. Whites tend to be a little more creative when they're bored.
The reason you've just stated as why it happens more to blacks is the actual definition of prejudice. I don't know if you are or not, but you're almost saying that blacks are asking for it, and it wouldn't happen to them if they'd shut up and stop being all uppity and stuff.
Good to know that you're willing to 'take his word' (a prosecutor). Because they would NEVER do anything for political reasons.
BTW Reiner's successor Garcetti felt 'too much time had passed' to charge for fleeing and eluding and drunk driving.Like I said, a political decision. Regardless, they drew blood 5 hours later and King was just under the alcohol limit, implying that at the time of the arrest he was over double the legal limit. King recklessly speeding in a residential area to flee police officers was well documented. Just because the charges were never pursued doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Assaulting of the police officer was on the tape, but that wasn't the only reason a baton was use.
He refused to be cuffed and resisted arrest.
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I never said any of the above didn't happen. I haven't even hinted in that direction.Good to know that you're willing to 'take his word' (a prosecutor). Because they would NEVER do anything for political reasons.
BTW Reiner's successor Garcetti felt 'too much time had passed' to charge for fleeing and eluding and drunk driving.Like I said, a political decision. Regardless, they drew blood 5 hours later and King was just under the alcohol limit, implying that at the time of the arrest he was over double the legal limit. King recklessly speeding in a residential area to flee police officers was well documented. Just because the charges were never pursued doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Assaulting of the police officer was on the tape, but that wasn't the only reason a baton was use.
He refused to be cuffed and resisted arrest.
The prosecutor's motivations may have been political, I don't know. But he stated his reason for not filing those charges. Again, with all due respect, I'm more likely to take the word the the guy himself rather than the word of someone who wasn't even involved in the case. If you can find me a quote where he says he didn't drop the charges because of a lack of evidence but did so because of political considerations, then my view on the matter will certainly change.
I really don't know why you keep trying to convince me that you think the beating was justified. I believe you when you say the officer's actions were justified. You're on record as defending the officers. I got it.
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Tennesseahawk
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Don't ALMOST anything, Turtle. I never said such a thing. I'm giving a huge reason for it. Blacks allow these thugs to paint the stereotypical picture most people have of blacks. Whites would never let white trash do that to their whole race. We'd have a short and sweet civil war, leaving a lot of dead crackers outside of their shacks, if that were to happen.
I don't know about ALMOST or not, but now you've bluntly stated that the fault of the disparity of police actions (stops, arrests, beatings, etc.) and the justice system (harsher sentences, more convictions, etc.) lies with the blacks themselves for allowing such a stereotypical picture to be painted.
Tennesseahawk
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I would say SOME of the stereotype is on the ones stereotyped. People don't just come out and laugh at the Irish for riding around on polka dot elephants, because they don't.
Walking across the street from young black men is done for a reason. Call it discrimination if you wish, but I'd rather not be slugged in the head, and act accordingly, if I so fear that.
As far as cops go, I don't know their modus operendi. Maybe they get kickbacks from putting people in prison, and it's easier to make something stick to blacks, because it's more likely they can't lawyer their way out of it. No idea. But I do know what I know about blacks. Chris Rock nailed it. Pastor Manning nailed it.
My guess is the cops focus on blacks for three reasons: Most cops are white in black neighborhoods - fault of blacks for not promoting their own to take care of their own. Blacks do not denounce the gangsta mentality, and rather embrace its crime and filth, and protect it from the cops. Blacks don't own the businesses in their neighborhoods, and therefore are easy pickins to terrorize by the cops. - ie, they have no clout, other than race baiters.
If you insist on being the victim, you give your abuser free reign. I do see many things blacks COULD do to prevent this crap from happening. I do see some of it. But mostly, if most of your city is black, and you fear your cops, FIRE THEM. Stop being the gosh-darned victims.
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Tennesseahawk
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Nevermind. I need the particulars of EO more than I need to debate with a bully.
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