Tennessee Insurrection
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It’s in the 2 minute clip. He explains it
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No, he does not explain it. He simply expresses wishful thinking. In fact, Justin Jones was seated today, without objection from the Speaker or voiced by anyone else in the House.It’s in the 2 minute clip. He explains it
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For that to happen, there must be a dispute to be taken to court. Parties do not go to court when they agree, and today they agreed. The House seated Jones today without objection. Jones did not object. Speaker Cameron did not object. No House member objected.
Might objections come later? Maybe. But it seems the anti-democracy Republicans have lost some of their backbone now that the whole world is watching and people are in the streets changing "Our House, not your House."
danthewolf00
Veteran Expediter
You know full well they Democrats would not hesitate to expel a Republican if the role was reversed.
I do not know that. We have no way of knowing, of course, unless the roles were actually reversed and the same kind of decorum violation actually happened. But no, I do not know full well the Democrats would have done the same thing in the same circumstances. And your point is off topic. This thread is not about what the Democrats might have done. It's about what the Republicans did.
Amazing what mob rule accomplished. Forget about the constitution and the rules. Why even have them if the mob can supersede it. Apparently it’s a worthless document. Like enabling an alcoholic with more drinks, giving a bullhorn riot leader the ability to come back is only asking for them to do it again. No repercussions for them. I’ll remember this episode the next time someone clutches their pearls accusing Trump of destroying the constitution.
I’ll chuckle with knowing glee and remember their glowing affection for the riot fellows (violating the constitution) with a bullhorn just because they weren’t wearing red hats.
Yes, we do know full well from more than enough actions in more than enough varied circumstances that have spoken sufficiently loudly enough to demonstrate conclusively what democrats will do. So yes, we do know and that is correct to anyone looking objectively.
danthewolf00
Veteran Expediter
The fact that the Democrats broke the rules and were kicked out and then went crying to the city council to be allowed to go play in the sand box again....I hope they kick that fool right back out again.
Of course the protest wasn't covered; it would've showed what actually happened on the floor of the House and possibly included some video of the near-riot going on outside. The reason it didn't get worse was due to the police and state troopers who kept them out of the building. The expulsion vote made national news because the two who were tossed out were black and Democrats - pure and simple. If one more Republican had shown enough will to vote against Johnson (a white Republican) the story would've been far less appealing to the national media.
He is responsible for upholding the rules of the House. If the situation were reversed, the Democrats would've expelled three Republicans in much the same manner, with unanimous support from the mainstream media.
No accountability? Sexton is accountable to the voters of his district who elected him and the state of TN - not the national media pundits or the noisy minority of Democrats who think the rules don't apply to them. Contrary to what is being implied in the mainstream media, Sexton has the support of the vast majority of TN voters. For those who don't understand the political makeup of our state, this image may help. Jones is from the blue spot in the middle (Davidson county) and Pearson is from Shelby county (southwest corner). This shows why Republicans have a super majority in the State House and Senate, and all these red counties aren't going to turn blue because of mainstream media criticism.
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The national “news” would have made a racial issue out of the expulsion even if Ms. Johnson was tossed along with the other too. They would have just cropped her out of the news stories. Basically purging her involvement with the riot so the could shape the narrative. She was a bit useful though because she wasn’t expelled and that was because a member or two viewed her presentation as being contrite and distancing herself from “the con artists formerly know as the Expelled Two”. She was able to sing a different tune after she was safe from expulsion. House member got played for believing her.
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Mob rule? The Republicans have a supermajority and you call "mob rule?"
The rules were followed. When the decorum breach happened, that rules violation was recognized and became the basis for the expulsion, which was done under the rules. It was heavy handed, in my opinion, but it was done under the rules. The reinstatement was also done under the rules. The constitution and rules were not forgotten about. They were upheld and used. When the Tennessee Three broke the decorum rule, that rule was very much remembered by everyone and consequences for that violation were meeted out.
The mob did not supersede the rules. See above.
Expulsion was a repercussion. It also happened that the abuse of super-majority power by the Republicans also had repercussions.
You have a creative spin on things, that's for sure. Trump himself, in his own words, called for suspending the Constitution.
An objective look would include a study of say the last 10 expulsions that happened in 50 state legislatures in prior years. With that data, we could objectively determine how many expulsions were partisan based as the Tennessee expulsions were. And we could determine if the Demcorats and Republicans have done such expulsions in equal measure or otherwise.
I have not done that research. Objectively, we know from the history of Tennessee, it has never before happened that the Democrats expelled a Republican state representative on a party line vote. And we know the Republicans have.
I agree. It became a huge national story because of the overt racism demonstrated by the Republican super-majority. And you're right. It may have been a less-explosive story had the white woman been expelled too. But even if she had, the heavy handed response of expulsion would have made big national news. Expulsions are rare. Two or three of them at once are unheard of. It was a big news story with the Tennessee Two or the Tennessee Three.
I don't think so. As a punishment for a decorum violation, expulsion is way out of proportion to the offense. In the hypothetical reversed situation, I think the Democrats would have acted to discipline the Republican offenders, but they would have been less heavy handed in the measures taken. I think they would have opted for censure or stripping of committee assignments instead of expulsion.
You are correct. And I should have chosen my words more carefully. When I said he acted with accountability, I did not mean he is not accountable to the voters who elected him. Of course he is. What I meant is he had no fear of repercussions from the voters who elected him because it is probable that a majority of voters in his district agree with him on this issue. So it was easy for him to act as he did; at least until the backlash came.
I don't know Tennessee politics like you do, but I'd be interested to know what effect gerrymandering has had in producing the the Republican super-majority that now exists. I'm also interested to see what effect the Tennessee Three story will have statewide. The three clearly represent an uprising of one sort or another. It will be interesting to see future election vote totals from the many red counties you show to see how deep that sentiment runs and if it has legs enough to last through an election cycle.
You correctly said before that the media and America has a short memory when it comes to headline news. Will this Tennessee Three story persist or will it fade? Time will tell.
We also know that in Tennessee’s 227 year history a Republican hasn’t hijacked a House session without being recognized. We now know that Democrats have.
It's already lasted longer than I thought it would, thanks to the mainstream media and the national Democrat party including the White House. They'll continue to use this as a wedge issue as long as possible, claiming it's an example of racism by Southern White Republicans. However, it won't hold up at a national level because neither one of these guys is prime time material.
This whole episode has taken the spotlight off of what happened over a couple weeks ago when a mentally ill trans person targeted Christians at their school. And questions remain, to list a few:
How much are they being radicalized? How much hormone “therapy” is negatively affecting their instability? How long will they continue to bury the manifesto from public view?
How much are they being radicalized? How much hormone “therapy” is negatively affecting their instability? How long will they continue to bury the manifesto from public view?
danthewolf00
Veteran Expediter
You ever notice that the shootings only get worse when a Democrat is president.
Hmmmm, did not all this uproar start with a bullhorn ......if any of you have been on the receiving end of a bullhorn, they can be either a safety device or they can be blaring and upset people or cause a disturbance....well, the man with the horn got what he wanted. In fact it decision was brillant------But legislative business in the House was brought to a halt when three elected Democratic representatives stood at the podium with a bullhorn to lead protestors in the galleries in calls for gun reform. This was brilllant,,,you gotta give them that...
I'm not sure I'd give them "brilliant." I'd say it was a gutsy move but not brilliant. It was gutsy because it was obviously planned in advance and coordinated by the Tennessee Three and probably the group in the gallery working together. They wanted to make a point (gun law reform) that got noticed in the House, and they obviously succeeded in that. But it was not brilliant because they did not plan or orchestrate anything that happened after their demonstration. They just went with the flow.
One of the Tennessee Three, Gloria Johnson, said she did not expect the expulsion vote that followed. She expected a penalty of some kind, but not the extreme penalty of expulsion. When the Republican super-majority over-reacted, they inadvertently triggered a national firestorm that elevated these three to national figures, and brought names like Biden, Harris, Newsom and others into the TN news and local restaurant conversations. Hundreds of thousands of dollars have flowed into the campaign committees of the three and into the TN Democratic Party.
The three are proving to have good instincts on the national stage. They are cool under fire, well-spoken and good on their feet. The two black men have speaking styles that many now liken to Martin Luther King; and some in the media are treating them like they were the second coming of MLK. That too is a bit off base, I think. But the Democrats are so hungry for unifying leaders that they're willing to lavish such praise on the two.
Brilliant? I think not. Gutsy with good instincts? Yes, I think so. I'd also give them "courageous." MLK was assassinated in TN and I'm sure there are more than a few Tennesseans entertaining that thought. The Tennessee Three know that, yet they continue to march just the same.