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layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
What change do you get with Obama? Just more socialism, that is what we have been moving towards since the 1930's. Change would be a move towards a free market, you know, capitalism. Change my butt. People had better wake up before it is too late. Once under the slavery of socialism you will be a slave forever. You will all say "Yes Massa" to the loving government. Layoutshooter
 

pelicn

Veteran Expediter
Back to the "self defense" part of the thread.

We do carry Wasp/Hornet spray, it shoots quite a distance for those really LARGE pests that might be bothering you. ;)
 

bernieh48

Veteran Expediter
Well just another school of thought on the not telling "Rent a Cops" at shipper's and such if your carrying a gun. Sometimes if you don't answer and say you are are not at liberty to say it will get you into trouble as well. We had the cops called on us at one deliver when the rent a cop asked just out of curiousity if we carry. Another driver standing nearby overheard my lack of response and called the real cops and even said I threatened the security guy with a gun. So be careful all around when being asked about it. LOL The real cops came in a flash and even handcuffed us and put us in their car to search our truck. Until the security guy finally said it was all a misunderstanding.
 

x06col

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Charter Member
Retired Expediter
US Army
Did you later, have a discussion with the "other driver"?
 

LDB

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Retired Expediter
Hmmm... false arrest... illegal search... if it was a nice little town it might not be bad to own it after the lawsuits.
 

iceroadtrucker

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Driver
You guys are so funney this thread went from be carefull in a certain truck stops to mace and peper spray to the Race for the white House.

Here is somtlhing to ponder. If you think that for one min that peperspray works on all people think again it dont. Tell ya what if you see me running in a truck stop Ill let ya spray me but when you find it dont bother me I get to spray U. Deal. Another issue is Tazers. Works on alot of people unless they are used to the voltage such as a person that welded with High Freq Tig weld Alu. Ect. or used a Plazma Cuttter all the time. Nip that one too they dont work just ask the man at the Petro in Atlanta that sells them. He couldnt believe it. It just gave me a tingle sensation about like sticking your tounge on a nine volt battery. any questions.

Now People as far as Mcain or Obamma.

If Mcain get the election You can kiss your son or daughter good bye as they board the plane to do duty overseas as we will be in a war with Iran mark these words.

By the way the Draft will be instuted back in as because of this stupid junk with Iraq the Service members are getting out. Example the Marines are getting out then going into the army National guard so the marines cant get there sticky fingers on them.

So what has the country done think it about it they are sending our reserves over there becasue they dont got enough active duty to support the cause. Tell me Im lying.

Next thing wake up this country cant fight a war on two fronts it dont have the manpower or the Resources. Been that way since Bill Clinton been in office. He downsized the military. Say Im wrong again. NOPE

Next Mcain Obamma whos better whos worse.

Well Mcain nothing more than a Mustang that is a Joke he had a chance to make admiral in the Navy and choose politics and being a senator. His ideals follow bush weather he wants to admit to it or not.
So go ahead be a fools fool and choose him an like I said we will be in a war. I wont mind to tell ya the truth Ill get recalled back to active duty. Shinga all that tax free monie again ya I can dig it. So while You vote make sure its for Mcain got that as I sure could use that extra loot to pay off some bills.

Now Obamma I see nothing wrong with him If he can turn this country around then so be it Im not a afarid to say I voted for the Man. By the way the color of his skin or where his parents came from I could care less. The point is he is an American and if he can fill the shoes and do the Job and stand up for the people vice big wigs Companies ect that is a good thing. I been in many a Truck stop and have herd Fellow Truckers put him down because they say they dont want a black man in office to me they are racist and Fools to boot. That kind of attitude I will not condone Do you here that. I can feel the vibs in this forem about the resentment of him running and getting the Democratic nomanation for the Demo party. Look for some of ya your using his mom and dad heritage and aunt uncles as a crutch
He is an American and he Christian not Musslum.
So get off it. If any one on here can see the real deal I can and that is Many here are still living with that southern Rebel past and need to move on. Im being polite.

Now as far as truck stops go yes be careful and watch your back. there is a lot of Bad things that goes on muggings, stealing fuel ect. just because. Truthfully we are heading for a recession if by chance we are not already in it. :)
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
Sorry Iceroadtrucker but only Dems have been calling for the draft to be reinstated. Charley Rangel(sp?) from NY is the main one. Iran? Peanut brain did nothing when they attacked our embassy in the 70's and that is why we have the problems in the Mid-East to this day. NO one , Dem or REPUB, has faced the fact that we are fighting WW4. They are hitting targets all over the place. We did not take on Hitler in 1938 and look what happened. We did not stop the Soviets in 1948 and they went on to murder over 25 million in there own country and un-told million world wide. These are facts. Weakness will cause us to be attacked more. As to Obama. What has he done? Has he ever even held a real job? He has no experince in forgien policy, military affairs, large budgets, running a large work force. He has done nothing. Mcain has some military but that is it. Health care etc is NOT the presidents job under our constitution. And remember, the Dems are the ones saying no to off shore drilling. Layoutshooter
 
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LDB

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IRT, you need to let your brain thaw because in it's frozen state it's making ridiculous choices. I could care less what color anyone is. It's what they do or don't do about/with it that matters. Obama is a RADICAL with 20 years of indoctrination by Mr. Wright and his church as well as Mr. Flager and his church. He is an anti-American as far as anything the Constitution stands for and correct thinking American's stand for. He is a socialist and will do his best to put government in complete control of you, your life, your finances, everything. Obama will make Clinton/Carter look like saints and perfectionists. If you liked 9/11 you'll love the Obama years. The only fools are the fools who waste a moment on Obama.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
Does anyone think that Obama could pass the same criminal backround check and polygraph that I had to when I got my Top Secret security Clearance? What is this guys backround? Why is no one looking into him? They are soo hot to trot to elect a non-white or non-male thats why. Why do we not demand a better vetting of all candidates? Why do we not demand them to be qualified to do the job they are running for. The job as dictated by the constitution, not CNN or FOX or any other group. NO one with a felony record should ever be allowed in the House/Senate or White House. Period. ANYONE who will be working with classified documents, like Obama, should have to pass the same background checks etc that those who produce those documents do. Layoutshooter
 

iceroadtrucker

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Driver
IRT, you need to let your brain thaw because in it's frozen state it's making ridiculous choices. I could care less what color anyone is. It's what they do or don't do about/with it that matters. Obama is a RADICAL with 20 years of indoctrination by Mr. Wright and his church as well as Mr. Flager and his church. He is an anti-American as far as anything the Constitution stands for and correct thinking American's stand for. He is a socialist and will do his best to put government in complete control of you, your life, your finances, everything. Obama will make Clinton/Carter look like saints and perfectionists. If you liked 9/11 you'll love the Obama years. The only fools are the fools who waste a moment on Obama.

Tell You what get your cammeys on when U make Mcain President and U can go with me when I get recalled put your monie where your mouth is and By the way I hope You can run 5 miles or more at a single jont ur gona have to in order to catch them u know whats. I can. so Mcain it is and LDB will go with me. Not a problem. No Excuses either age has no factor im 45 and can run 5 miles. I said I aint afarid Heck I wanted one more tour so go ahead put the so called mustang in office and give me what I want. Ur Choice. Mcain or Obamma.

If your too old U say then keep Your peace. As I see it George didnt send his daughter over there in the military nor did Dick Cheny. Now U go figure. Now far as Obamma goes or Bush they are nothing more than puppets on a string for the House and Senate. of which are puppets of the lobbiest which we all know they run this country any way.

Your right Layshooter they are and I said it in before thats because the marines are getting out going to the reserves so that the marines cant get there sticky fingers back on them so the country realized it and started send our army reserves over there vice the full active duty. The Navy took over the small boat patrols that the marines were in charge of. get the pic now. Kids are not signing up because of this crap that is going on and needles to say I realy dont blame them one bit. Myself Ive been around served 23 and now in a holding pattern till my 30th year due to my MOS, so unlike many that are retired Im on a retainer now ya get it and can be recalled. How ever they these kids have yet to live a life. So they are not entering the service but staying at mineal jobs, going to College for the ones that can afford it or going to Tec Schools. The big reason they are calling for the draft all the Recruting numbers are down. No one want to go over there and needless to say realy I dont blame them at all. As I said these kids havnt lived a life yet.


Have a nice day. See Ya over seas :)
 
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LDB

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Retired Expediter
I'm 51 and I couldn't get in 30 years ago so I doubt I could now. I can run 5 driveways and walk 5k with enough time. If it's in sight range I can shoot it though. I'll go for logistics somehow but wouldn't be worth a lot mobile on a battlefield. That's neither here nor there to the question of how big a disaster McCain is compared to how HUGE a disaster Obama is.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
I would not want the sons/daughters of the pres/vice pres in the military. That unit would be such a target. As to the claims like in the 60's about senators son's, there are 3 sons of senators serving or have served in Iraq. 3 out of 100 is a much higher percentage than the general population has in. Mcain has a son there. I am too old but could most likely out shoot most in the military. Been shooting since I was 5. I never served in combat but I did serve for 20 years in the intell service. layoutshooter
 

bernieh48

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LOL no we didn't have to do anything with the other driver who had called the cops. They handle that one all on their own. Gave him a ticket and fine for calling in a false report. Wasn't pleasant though being treated that way, but like the cops explained when they don't know the whole situation they have to be careful and I fully understood their point of view.

As for bad truckstops there are ones all over the place you have to watch out for. The J in Dallas has gotten really bad. But I have 2 four legged theft devices for them. The older one has bit 2 people. One who tried reaching his hand in through a crack in the drivers window and the other while approaching me when I was walking her. He wouldn't listen when I told him yes she does bite. He was trying to bum money and good lord knows what else and he got to close and Gracie took a nice chunk of skin out of his leg. LOL
 

iceroadtrucker

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Driver
I would not want the sons/daughters of the pres/vice pres in the military. That unit would be such a target. As to the claims like in the 60's about senators son's, there are 3 sons of senators serving or have served in Iraq. 3 out of 100 is a much higher percentage than the general population has in. Mcain has a son there. I am too old but could most likely out shoot most in the military. Been shooting since I was 5. I never served in combat but I did serve for 20 years in the intell service. layoutshooter


Yes that is correct but if the President kids cant join the military and serve then how can HE possibly send your sons and daughters into harms way as well rest my case and in another instance I did serve with a Senators Son over seas and in the hot zone. Think again. If the Alkida knew well they didnt do nothing about it.
So your a compatition shooter we ought to get together and hit the range.
Pistol and Rifel

Have a nice day. :)
 

arkjarhead

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IRT,
You call McCain a mustang like it's a bad thing do you know what a mustang even is in the military is? Evidently not, or you are a straight out of college officer. In the sticky finger Marines , as you call them, most of our officers were mustangs.

mustang- commisioned officer that was previously an enlistedman.

Guess what McCain is an Annoplis graduate, and so is his son. He and his family walk the talk.
 

dedicated1

Seasoned Expediter
Good evening all,

I have been reading messages in this forum for over 2 yrs now. But, I must say there has never been a more twisted or confused conversation than this post. It started out as a "caution for All drivers" and took a political and quite frankly a racial turn towards two educated, wealthly and successful Presidential Candidates. I thought it was very interesting that some of us questioned Barack Obama's Integrity and intellect(The power of knowing as distinguished from the power to feel and to will) also questioned in a previous post was his religion and his education.. Well maybe this will give a better
understanding.

QUICK FACTS
Born: August 4, 1961 (Hawaii)
Lives in: Chicago, Illinois
Zodiac Sign: Leo
Height: 6' 1" (1.87m)
Family: Married wife Michelle in 1992, 2 daughters Malia and Sasha
Parents: Barack Obama, Sr. (from Kenya) and Ann Dunham (from Kansas)
Religion: United Church of Christ
Drives a: Ford Escape hybrid, Chrysler 300C
Education:
- Graduated: Columbia University (1983) - Major: Political Science
- Law Degree from Harvard (1991) - Major: J.D. - Magna Cum Laude
- Attended: Occidental College
Career: U.S. Senator from Illinois sworn in January 4, 2005
Government Committees:
- Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee
- Foreign Relations Committee
- Veterans Affairs Committee
- 2005 and 2006: served on the Environment and Public Works Committee

Come on let us move on from the judgement of qualified candidates based on the color of there skin and let us focus on the reality of our country and that is, (we really do need a change)
 

arkjarhead

Veteran Expediter
I never said he was dumb. I think he is very smart. He talks about change, but he never bothers to say how he plans to acheive this.
 

iceroadtrucker

Veteran Expediter
Driver
IRT,
You call McCain a mustang like it's a bad thing do you know what a mustang even is in the military is? Evidently not, or you are a straight out of college officer. In the sticky finger Marines , as you call them, most of our officers were mustangs.

mustang- commisioned officer that was previously an enlistedman.

Guess what McCain is an Annoplis graduate, and so is his son. He and his family walk the talk.


Yes ack I know what a mustang is But I also know that he left the Service when he was rubbing elbows with senators.
he turned down a position for admiral to be a senator.

Now actjar are you ready for the shooting compatition
lets see what you realy have got and since you were a marine u ought to be in shape as well. I told my Brother Dino the same thing well as he was in the Marines as well in all fareness Recon does a good job.
I call it like I see it man.
I here the dinner bell so what being served
chillie mac MRE
Beef steak MRE
Yum YUM
Dont forget man the the Pound Cake is Wonderful AS WELL

lmao:)
 

dedicated1

Seasoned Expediter
I do feel his intentions are good and I do agree with you on that point, he has not said as of yet how he will implement the changes. But, he has unitil Sept to as the saying goes ((walk the walk)) so, I guess time will tell. I do not expect change overnight he or McCain will be walking into a mess and it will take several years to turn it around. But, you have to start somewhere. :D
 
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