Stop Smoking Now!!!

[copdsux]

Last Thanksgiving week I posted about being hospitalized with complications from COPD; a lung disease caused by smoking(90%). At that time, I suggested that stopping smoking might be a ggod idea(Ya' think?).

Well, here we go again!! Went to my pulmonolgist yesterday(Tuesday), &, just like last year,
he told me to go home, get my "stuff" & check into CMC-Mercy. I'll be here for 5-7 days.

A direct quote, from the doctor: "Get used to being in the hospital".

Do a google search on Empyhsema. Let me know if you find any good news.

Like the title says: Stop smoking NOW!!!

 

[TurkeyHawk]

Ever see that movie documentry called 'Scared Stiff" ?

It was about going to prison, with prisoners scaring us kids as to why we DO NOT WANT to go to Prison.

The same should be done with smoking because it's a beeitch to quit, we need to be SCARED STIFF 2 quit.....

Posts like this should happen everyday to help SCARE THE CRAP OUT OF SMOKERS!!!!

STOP SMOKING OR DIE YOUNGER THAN YOU SHOULD!!!!

Now, if I would just listen to THAT MESSAGE?

 

[LDB]

I wish you good luck with your hospital stay. Hopefully it will be shorter than anticipated.

Thank you for continuing to tell people to quit smoking. I'm thankful to have never started and I know quitting is terribly difficult but with all the evidence against it, as well as the huge cost, I honestly can't understand people continuing to do it.

 

[miguy1957]

No doubt its a good idea to quit smoking, But I wish the goverment would stay out of it. Over taxing one group of people for their vices is just wrong, other things like fast fatty food is just as bad for your health.. The owners of businesses should be the ones that decide if their business is non smoking or not not the goverment or the anti-smoking people. I think you should have a right to abuse your health if you want to without goverment (insurance companies) telling you NO NO. What rights will they go after next?? Telling you what to eat , drink ,how and where to live?? I kind of like being able to choose how to live...........
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[nightcreacher]

in 1988i quit smoking,and since when you have a drink of alcohol, you aso smoke,i became sober and smoke free.after the third week my cough went away,took longer for the shakes from the alcohol,but it was well worth it,except, the money i have saved was spent on bigger clothes.Food tastes so great.I wish you all the best,I know i was headed in that direction,was smoking 5 packs winstons day,I quit cold turkey

 

[nightcreacher]

like seat belts

No doubt its a good idea to quit smoking, But I wish the goverment would stay out of it. Over taxing one group of people for their vices is just wrong, other things like fast fatty food is just as bad for your health.. The owners of businesses should be the ones that decide if their business is non smoking or not not the goverment or the anti-smoking people. I think you should have a right to abuse your health if you want to without goverment (insurance companies) telling you NO NO. What rights will they go after next?? Telling you what to eat , drink ,how and where to live?? I kind of like being able to choose how to live...........

its like seat belts,and motor cycle helmets,if your sick,and have no insurance,the state ends up taking care of you,this way,no smoking laws and seat belt laws makes their liability less.you know most states are lax on helmet laws.if your in an accident,and are crippled,not wearing your seat belt takes the medical liability from the state,they dont have to help you,so when your dieing from bad lungs,same thing

 

[LDB]

The owners of businesses should be the ones that decide if their business is non smoking or not not the goverment or the anti-smoking people.

If we were talking about serving alcohol or not, requiring a necktie or not, or any of a number of other things I'd agree with you. Smoking must be banned in any public place because the smoke infringes on everyone. If it didn't assault others it wouldn't matter but you can't smoke in the same facility and not violate the space and air of others. Having a smoking area in a room full of air is like having a peeing area in a pool full of water.

 

[ejtrucker]

Tobacco use is the most common form of drug abuse. It’s also the most preventable cause of death in the United States. Smoking cigarettes, pipes, or cigars can cause heart attacks, strokes, emphysema, chronic bronchitis, and cancers of the lung, larynx, mouth, esophagus, bladder, pancreas, and cervix.

Using smokeless tobacco in any form (including chewing tobacco or snuff) is dangerous and can also lead to addiction and serious health conditions. Most smokers know smoking is very bad for their health and most smokers want to stop. If you don't smoke, don't start. If you do smoke, try to stop.

Here are some facts about tobacco:

* Tobacco-related illnesses are the leading cause of
preventable death in the U.S.
* Tobacco use kills more than 1,200 people a day in the US.
Every year, more than 440,000 people die from illnesses
caused from smoking or chewing tobacco.
* Smokeless tobacco, or snuff, can cause cancers of the
mouth, tongue, and throat.
* About 80 percent of adult smokers started as teenagers.
* Every day, almost 5,000 kids under the age of 18 try their
first cigarette.
* More than 6.4 million children living today will die young
because they smoke.
* More people die from illnesses caused by tobacco than from
AIDS, murder, suicide, fires, and illegal drugs combined.
* Tobacco companies put ammonia in cigarettes so smokers’
brains will absorb more nicotine.

This is an article that I recently passed on to my sister. My Grandma died from cancer directly related from lung cancer. Another good friend died from the same cancer at age 35. Miserable death, laying in a hospital bed gasping for each breath.


I think that it should be illegal just as heroin, crack, or any other
addictive drugs.

 

[miguy1957]

If we were talking about serving alcohol or not, requiring a necktie or not, or any of a number of other things I'd agree with you. Smoking must be banned in any public place because the smoke infringes on everyone. If it didn't assault others it wouldn't matter but you can't smoke in the same facility and not violate the space and air of others. Having a smoking area in a room full of air is like having a peeing area in a pool full of water.

Yea but, Dont you think it should be up to the owner of the buisness and not the goverment what goes on in that business? You have the right to go into that business or not if its a smoking place They just lost business. If the owner thinks he is better off letting people smoke shouldnt he make the call?
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[ejtrucker]

Yea but, Don't you think it should be up to the owner of the business and not the government what goes on in that business? You have the right to go into that business or not if its a smoking place They just lost business. If the owner thinks he is better off letting people smoke shouldn't he make the call?

NO!!!! The business owner can go in the back room and escape the smoke where as customers that do not smoke have to breath fowl air. If it is a public place where smokers and non smokers go, there should be no smoking or have a room that is totally closed off for the smokers. As smokers have the right to smoke, non smokers have the right to breath clean air.

I suffer from C.O.P.D. because of my parents. I never touched a cigarette , oh I take that back, I use to hide them from my parents. There are people that have worked in bars/clubs that there is heavy smoking and are also suffering from the disease. It is really sad. I feel for the addicted smoker, to a point, that person makes the choice to pick up that cigarette and light it.

 

[miguy1957]

NO!!!! The business owner can go in the back room and escape the smoke where as customers that do not smoke have to breath fowl air. If it is a public place where smokers and non smokers go, there should be no smoking or have a room that is totally closed off for the smokers. As smokers have the right to smoke, non smokers have the right to breath clean air.

I suffer from C.O.P.D. because of my parents. I never touched a cigarette , oh I take that back, I use to hide them from my parents. There are people that have worked in bars/clubs that there is heavy smoking and are also suffering from the disease. It is really sad. I feel for the addicted smoker, to a point, that person makes the choice to pick up that cigarette and light it.

Well you have the right not to go to somewhere that allows people to smoke.
Why should the goverment force them to run their business to cater to you?? I see that you must like to ride a motorcycle should the goverment tell you that it is to dangerous to ride you must drive a Suv.. I dont understand people that want big brother to run their lives. What ever happened to Freedom and people watching out for themselves??
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[LDB]

From a libertarian standpoint I could agree with you however I'm not libertarian. Why should non-smokers be forced to choose between abusive conditions or not going somewhere? If business owners were smart they'd be pushing for a nationwide ban on public smoking. They would recapture the lost business from non-smokers who will not patronize their establishment and the smokers would still go there if they like the place since nowhere else is allowed to permit air abuse either so there's no advantage to going elsewhere.

 

[ejtrucker]

Well you have the right not to go to somewhere that allows people to smoke.
Why should the goverment force them to run their business to cater to you?? I see that you must like to ride a motorcycle should the goverment tell you that it is to dangerous to ride you must drive a Suv.. I dont understand people that want big brother to run their lives. What ever happened to Freedom and people watching out for themselves??

Riding my motorcycle does not affect your health!!!!

 

[LDB]

I think the point isn't forcing "catering" to one group, the point is not allowing one group's action to abuse another group. Since smoke isn't a captive thing and readily mixes with everyone's air it's a problem of one person's actions being forced onto others. Turning it around, why should smoker's be allowed to force their smoke on others?

 

[miguy1957]

Riding my motorcycle does not affect your health!!!!

True, but if you get hurt my insurance will go up to pay for it.... I would never try to outlaw your right to do it.......
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[miguy1957]

I think the point isn't forcing "catering" to one group, the point is not allowing one group's action to abuse another group. Since smoke isn't a captive thing and readily mixes with everyone's air it's a problem of one person's actions being forced onto others. Turning it around, why should smoker's be allowed to force their smoke on others?

No one is forcing anyone to go somewhere that smoking is allowed. All Im saying is that the goverment shouldnt tell business owners how to run their businesses. You own your truck, Whats next, telling you Truck drivers are to over weight no more eating potato chips while in your truck. Its your business you should decide. Do you think they should control your business,to the extent of you cant do any thing that is unhealthy. When you come down to it really whats the difference in you and them??
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[ejtrucker]

True, but if you get hurt my insurance will go up to pay for it.... I would never try to outlaw your right to do it.......

Ok you say you would never outlaw my right to ride, great. What about my right to breathe clean air? That is my point and LDB wrapped it up with his last post.

If it wasn't for the fact that the smoke lingers into other peoples air there would not be this issue. When you eat potato chips, I or anyone else do not absorb the calories. Not true with smoke or any other pollutant that is carried through the atmosphere.

 

[dieseldiva]

True, but if you get hurt my insurance will go up to pay for it.... I would never try to outlaw your right to do it.......

No, HER insurance would pay for it. Now if you happen to be insured by the same company, well then ok, BUT she's paying for her insurance and it has nothing to do with you or your space.

 

[pelicn]

Right to breathe clean air? For some reason Los Angeles comes to mind.

I'm a smoker, but I respect those that don't. Smoking isn't illegal....yet. But if you'll notice, most places are now smoke free.

 

[miguy1957]

Ok you say you would never outlaw my right to ride, great. What about my right to breathe clean air? That is my point and LDB wrapped it up with his last post.

You have the right to breath clean air. You have the right to not use that business , but you dont have the right to tell a business man how to run his business, and in my oppion neither does the goverment. NO one holds a gun to anyones head making them support a business that they dont agree with. If they serve liquor and you dont agree with that, dont support that business. But dont trample on their right to do so. Remember Land of the free..........
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