Rethinking 9/11, and other rants

clcooper · Aug 3, 2011

Ragman said:
Please, Please, Please stop this nonsense bringing up Hitler and the holocaust whenever somebody has an issue with our govenment.

Hitler was evil, the nazi's were and are evil.

We may all have issues with the policies of the opposing party, but to compare them with Hitler and nazi's is irresponsable and just wrong!.

please tell me how the people let Hitler do what he did . and for as long as he did too . Saddum had mass grave of his own people how did he get away with it . and how many others just like them .

i don't care what party it is . if people believe that a government can do no wrong i remind them . and what has been done to make sure it never happens again .

how are gangs formed ?? just like the buddy system ??

so just sit back and wait around like the Jews did . . oh and when Paul went past your house . just stay in your house , and just wait until you see the British before you believe . i am so glad they didn't think allot do today . i am happy to be a American . and glad i am not British

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” ~Joseph Goebbels

paullud · Aug 3, 2011

clcooper said:
how do you cut a tree down and get it to go the way you want it to go ?? why dont they just cut stright throgh the tree ???
things will fall to the side of least resetice .

Right, but when you watch the video you can see the towers start to collapse where the point of impact is and not at the bottom like in a demolition.

i ask you were you there ??
it rained everyday at my place this week .now prove my right or wrong ???

No, where you there that you seem so comfortable to deny all the evidence that points to me being correct.

so the government is 1000 times better today then 100 years ago . people are still haveing there homes stolen from them today .

I didn't say they were perfect.

all of the events like ww1, ww2, 9/11, etc . only took a few minties to plan and do ??
do you plan out which route you are going to take to get to your drop off . or do you just put it in drive and just go . how do you reach a goal . does it take steps to reach it . like i need to do this for this to happen .

I am not sure what you are trying to prove.

are you sure that the white man is 1000 times better today . ???

Yes

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BillChaffey · Aug 3, 2011

If a person with no freight or is sitting at home. Reading through this thread, it's getting scary.

Just about everyone knows Hitler never really existed. The 10's of thousands who gave their lives in WW 2 was just a FAKE, A CONSPIRACY.

paullud · Aug 3, 2011

BillChaffey said:
If a person with no freight or is sitting at home. Reading through this thread, it's getting scary.

Just about everyone knows Hitler never really existed. The 10's of thousands who gave their lives in WW 2 was just a FAKE, A CONSPIRACY.

I always heard that the Holocaust was a Jewish conspiracy. I guess I should believe it though based off of statements from members of white power groups with an agenda. I will ignore the families with relatives that were murdered, eye witness accounts, and video evidence.

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clcooper · Aug 3, 2011

yep and nobody can ever be like hitler or any group can be like the nazis ever again . that is why the war on drugs is still going on the US government is just not big enough to stop drugs . and dont have the techloige either .

demolition can not be computor contraled ??
and they could not start the demolition from the top ??

paullud · Aug 3, 2011

clcooper said:
yep and nobody can ever be like hitler or any group can be like the nazis ever again . that is why the war on drugs is still going on the US government is just not big enough to stop drugs . and dont have the techloige either .

Exactly, if someone started up a Holocaust again we would step in just like we have been doing, of course there will always be those small civil wars. The US government definitely is way to small to end the war on drugs and that is why so many feel we should end it.

demolition can not be computor contraled ??
and they could not start the demolition from the top ??

You should stop fighting so hard to cling to any scrap of hope that 9/11 was pulled off by the government. If they set off explosives at the top of the tower you still have the issue that there were no explosions that everyone could see or hear.

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Ragman · Aug 3, 2011

clcooper said:
please tell me how the people let Hitler do what he did . and for as long as he did too . Saddum had mass grave of his own people how did he get away with it . and how many others just like them .

The people had their guns taken away.

clcooper said:
so just sit back and wait around like the Jews did . .

The Jews faught back. Ever hear of the Warsaw Getto uprising?

clcooper said:
i am happy to be a American . and glad i am not British

So am I, But would be just as happy to be British.

mcavoy33 · Aug 3, 2011

clcooper,

Lets say we agree that there was explosives in the twin towers and the Pentagon really wasn't hit by a plane.

Now where do we go from here in your magical world?

BillChaffey · Aug 3, 2011

If you don't think 10's of thousands can be killed in this day and age. Look what's been going on in Africa for the last 25 years or more.
They don't need the Clan or Apartheid to have a reason to kill each other.

paullud · Aug 3, 2011

clcooper said:
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” ~Joseph Goebbels

I hope you are aware that you are using a quote from a very infamous Nazi propagandist to try and prove your point.

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paullud · Aug 3, 2011

There is little that can be done to convince a person of the truth when they parrot some bogus evidence, have it shot down then just jump to the next possibility without ever addressing the truth you just revealed to them.

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Turtle · Aug 3, 2011

paullud said:
There is little that can be done to convince a person of the truth when they parrot some bogus evidence, have it shot down then just jump to the next possibility without ever addressing the truth you just revealed to them.

That's the bread and butter of the wacko conspiracy theorist. It's what happens when the only knowledge of the issues come from the parroted claims which support the belief. The argument is one of emotion and ignorance, not intelligence, and it doesn't take long for them to run out of "next possibilities." When that happens and they only have raw emotion and feelings to support themselves (which is all they have to begin with), and they will either walk away and dismiss you entirely as being unreasonable and irrelevant, or try to discredit you personally (personal attack) in the hopes of somehow discrediting what you have been saying. It's one or the other, always is.

Tennesseahawk · Aug 3, 2011

BillChaffey said:
If you don't think 10's of thousands can be killed in this day and age. Look what's been going on in Africa for the last 25 years or more.
They don't need the Clan or Apartheid to have a reason to kill each other.

Well, excuse my political incorrectness, but Africa is full of superstitious savages. They burn you alive for stealing potatoes, and rape virgins to get rid of AIDS. What more can one say?

Ragman · Aug 3, 2011

Tennesseahawk said:
Well, excuse my political incorrectness, but Africa is full of superstitious savages. They burn you alive for stealing potatoes, and rape virgins to get rid of AIDS. What more can one say?

Who spiked my food? That's 3 in one day!

Tennesseahawk · Aug 3, 2011

Ragman said:
Who spiked my food? That's 3 in one day!

Give me time. I'll have you agreeing with me on Obama, conservatism (the true stuff; not that RINO crap), and that the only thing good that's come from China is kung fu and General Tso's chicken! j/k on the last one

Everybody now!...

I like Chinese.
I like Chinese.
They only come up to your knees.
And they're cute, and they're cuddly, and they're ready to please...

witness23 · Aug 4, 2011

Tennesseahawk said:
Give me time. I'll have you agreeing with me on Obama, conservatism (the true stuff; not that RINO crap), and that the only thing good that's come from China is kung fu and General Tso's chicken! j/k on the last one

Everybody now!...

I like Chinese.
I like Chinese.
They only come up to your knees.
And they're cute, and they're cuddly, and they're ready to please...

Tennesseahawk · Aug 4, 2011

Don't tell me you've never heard that song.

‪Monty Python- I Like Chinese (1980)‬&rlm; - YouTube

Ragman · Aug 4, 2011

Tennesseahawk said:
Give me time. I'll have you agreeing with me on Obama, conservatism (the true stuff; not that RINO crap), and that the only thing good that's come from China is kung fu and General Tso's chicken! j/k on the last one

Everybody now!...

I like Chinese.
I like Chinese.
They only come up to your knees.
And they're cute, and they're cuddly, and they're ready to please...