Re: An Injustice Averted

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Why doesn't someone come up with a viable "excuse" to run for a buck 30 and get it over with???...I am quite sure their is a carrier that would support that theory...:rolleyes:
 

teamjdw

Expert Expediter
Maybe we should have socialized trucking.Here is some bread and water,you can live in your truck rent free.Now stop your fing whining and make the party some money,or we will take out and shoot your dumb azz. Learn to think out of the box.I can't believe how many whinningg jealous sob's are attacking Phil.Stop hauling cheap freight.
 

Rocketman

Veteran Expediter
I see so many trying to persuade Phil he is wrong..:eek:

As Joe said...it is HIS and HIS alone business plan. Period...
It not wrong, it is not right.....Its HIS plan....your plan don't work for me....1.40 is NOT a good rate IF you are going to run at that...and THAT only...1.40 might be more acceptable IF you never ran a DH mile and never had to idle...

As much as you could knock Phil for being a high brow...because he demands a higher rate..one could say you are a CHEAP freight runner...3 years ago you'd be called a scum bag at 1.40...now it is ok.??...did things get cheaper?

The original problem, at least with this thread, is that people are allowed to go to the carrier threads and drag up this stuff, then bring it into the open forum. It's not the first time and I've even seen a moderator do it. But that doesn't make it right.
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
As much as you could knock Phil for being a high brow...because he demands a higher rate...
Oooooh, that's not why people are knocking him, not because he demands a higher rate. It's because he leaves the distinct impression of: <stomp> <stomp> <stomp> "How DARE you offer me such a pedestrian rate! Do you have any... idea... who I am!?!?"
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I think I ran for Ceva for a buck 20....:eek:

But Mike..If it worked for you and you were ok with that...fine....if it fit your CPM...great..but if you were making excuses why you were doing it...no....never make excuses...just good business decisions for YOUR business....not mine or anyone elses.....they don't have to live with the decisions you and your family do....
 

scottm4211

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I'm too busy running a cargo van load @ $1.52 a mile to defend anything. I mean I will be when the ppwk clears.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Oooooh, that's not why people are knocking him, not because he demands a higher rate. It's because he leaves the distinct impression of: <stomp> <stomp> <stomp> "How DARE you offer me such a pedestrian rate! Do you have any... idea... who I am!?!?"

That is right...he is entitled....LOL

I am OVM what does that get me? crapped on maybe....LOL:p
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
The original problem, at least with this thread, is that people are allowed to go to the carrier threads and drag up this stuff, then bring it into the open forum. It's not the first time and I've even seen a moderator do it. But that doesn't make it right.
Doesn't make it wrong, either. People can talk about whatever they want in the Open Forum. That's why they call it the Open Forum, because it's Open, not closed and exclusive. If people want to carry on an exclusive conversation then they need to do so in an exclusive manner, and doing it in a public forum ain't it.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I'm too busy running a cargo van load @ $1.52 a mile to defend anything. I mean I will be when the ppwk clears.

Imagine that 1.52 and in a CV no less....maybe you shoulda turned it down because afterall thats a ST rate and you're just a CV....:rolleyes:
 

Dakota

Veteran Expediter
But Mike..If it worked for you and you were ok with that...fine....if it fit your CPM...great..but if you were making excuses why you were doing it...no....never make excuses...just good business decisions for YOUR business....not mine or anyone elses.....they don't have to live with the decisions you and your family do....

And, NO it didn't work for me, so I left which is my right!!!
I agree everyone runs their OWN business with their OWN expectations.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
The original problem, at least with this thread, is that people are allowed to go to the carrier threads and drag up this stuff, then bring it into the open forum. It's not the first time and I've even seen a moderator do it. But that doesn't make it right.

There is no rule about bringing stuff out....especially if it is relevant to the general forum aka issues...
Yep...guilty here as charged...
 

Rocketman

Veteran Expediter
If people want to carry on an exclusive conversation then they need to do so in an exclusive manner, and doing it in a public forum ain't it.


I've got a feeling that Phil thought he was doing just that when he started the thread in the Fedex forum. If he wanted it to be open for discussion in the "open" forum, I'm sure he would have posted it here to start with. If the threads in the carrier forums are going to be drug up and posted in the open forum, what good is it to have exclusive carrier forums?
 

Rocketman

Veteran Expediter
There is no rule about bringing stuff out....especially if it is relevant to the general forum aka issues...
Yep...guilty here as charged...

Oh I never doubted that there was no rule about it. I think that maybe there should be though. Well, anyway, that's the way I see it. If it's in the carrier forum, it should be left there.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I've got a feeling that Phil thought he was doing just that when he started the thread in the Fedex forum. If he wanted it to be open for discussion in the "open" forum, I'm sure he would have posted it here to start with. If the threads in the carrier forums are going to be drug up and posted in the open forum, what good is it to have exclusive carrier forums?

Because there will 2 distinct lines of thought....maybe.....what the Fedexers think and what the general public thinks....Fdex drivers have the advantage of first hand knowledge while the general people rely on thinking they know it all....LOL
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Oh I never doubted that there was no rule about it. I think that maybe there should be though. Well, anyway, that's the way I see it. If it's in the carrier forum, it should be left there.

It still is there...the Fedexers can discuss it all to themselves without all the clutter....
 

Rocketman

Veteran Expediter
Because there will 2 distinct lines of thought....maybe.....what the Fedexers think and what the general public thinks....Fdex drivers have the advantage of first hand knowledge while the general people rely on thinking they know it all....LOL

LOL...thinking? Thought I was pretty convinced :)
 
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