Papa Johns Pizza cutting hours

paullud

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It is absolutely none of my business what he does with his money. Never said it was.:confused:
It will probably be worth it to him as long as his profit exceeds the additional costs.

Are you referring to me as a liberal pushing a view??

You seem to be making a personal judgement about me based on my willingness to debate a specific topic. Your fallback method of debating is to throw out a conclusion about what I am and say that debating a topic is PUSHING a view?
Do you ever think "What would Jesus do?" before you judge someone? Just curious.

BTW - I am not a liberal and I am not "pushing". I am bringing up counterpoints for those who are open to discussing both sides of a topic.

You are trying to make it your business with the shots about having to sell a vacation home or how CEO's spend their money. You are for taking from the wealthy to redistribute however Obama wants under the threat of give us what we demand or we will take everything and throw you in prison. I haven't seen you take a conservative stance on anything yet and your comments display more than just viewing it from the other side, they are clearly your beliefs. Someone who is debating a topic debates it from their side not the other. Someone who is just considering both points of view doesn't insult people for being rich and say that as long as he is making profit that it will be good enough.

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paullud

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I worked at walmart as a pharmacy tech and they do pay well and if you are lucky enough to go full time they don't have bad benefits...my starting wage as pharmacy tech in training (I did not yet have my state certification) was well above the norm. I know a lot of people bag on walmart but they are not the worse offenders of the crimes they are accused of!

)O( ~ Namaste ~ )O(

I worked as one of those lowly cart pushers while I was in college. I was full time from the start and the pay was decent considering what the job was. The company itself was fine to work for and if I were out of work I wouldn't hesitate to apply there.

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Humble2drive

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. . . it is capitalism at its best and raised the standard of living for many poor folks.

Capitalism at it's best because Sam started with one store in Bentonville much like the small town stores that Cheri describes. He was a workaholic and an innovator. He also took good care of his employees with benefits that included stock. Many of his original employees who stuck with walmart for 20+ years became wealthy including his truck drivers.
They have changed dramatically; however, more recently they annouced agreements with centers of excellence such as the Mayo Clinic and Johns Hopkins to care for their employees and families who need major surgeries such as transplants. The benefit even pays to transport the patient there and back.

That impresses me so I will hold judgement and let time tell the rest of the story on this one. :)
 

Missie600

Active Expediter
What about Lowe's and Home Depot? Didn't they have the same effect on mom and pop hardware stores? I can think of so many stores that have displaced other smaller stores. It is a natural progression of business.
 

Humble2drive

Expert Expediter
You are trying to make it your business with the shots about having to sell a vacation home or how CEO's spend their money. You are for taking from the wealthy to redistribute however Obama wants under the threat of give us what we demand or we will take everything and throw you in prison. I haven't seen you take a conservative stance on anything yet and your comments display more than just viewing it from the other side, they are clearly your beliefs. Someone who is debating a topic debates it from their side not the other. Someone who is just considering both points of view doesn't insult people for being rich and say that as long as he is making profit that it will be good enough.

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You managed to be wrong in every one of your assumptions. I have disagreed with you in a couple of other posts and you seem to harbor a grudge. That's just my assumption.

I have in fact taken both conservative and liberal sides of many issues here on EO and will continue to do so because I refuse to live in an information bubble. :p

As a "Young Republican" I took the opposing side in many University debates and learned much from vigerously defending an opposite view point. Much more than what I learned from talking to my buddies. That was during the Reagan era and Mitt Romney is a far cry from what embodied the Republican Party at that time.

I will admit, I enjoy riling up the troops for the sake of entertainment; however, something educational usually comes across from one side or the other.
:)
 

paullud

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You managed to be wrong in every one of your assumptions. I have disagreed with you in a couple of other posts and you seem to harbor a grudge. That's just my assumption.

Where are the signs of this grudge I have displayed? Where do you see any sign of me harboring a grudge with anyone? It doesn't even make sense to say I am harboring a grudge because I disagree with you especially when you also take up the liberal agenda just to bother people.

I have in fact taken both conservative and liberal sides of many issues here on EO and will continue to do so because I refuse to live in an information bubble. :p

I haven't really seen any sign of you being a conservative yet. You thinking that you are taking both sides displays the fact you are in an information bubble.

As a "Young Republican" I took the opposing side in many University debates and learned much from vigerously defending an opposite view point. Much more than what I learned from talking to my buddies. That was during the Reagan era and Mitt Romney is a far cry from what embodied the Republican Party at that time.

This isn't the Young Republicans and we are not on a debate team.

I will admit, I enjoy riling up the troops for the sake of entertainment; however, something educational usually comes across from one side or the other.
:)

So you have appointed yourself to be the resident troll then? You haven't provided anything educational in your posts, only opinion.

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Turtle

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First, opinions can be educational. Second, reply to the post, not the poster... what happened in some other thread is irrelevant. Third, it's not a good idea to make comments that are steeped in, and dripping with class warfare, and then say the comments had nothing to do with class warfare.
 

xiggi

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Owner/Operator
I get so tired of this drivel about corporations making huge profits so they can afford to pay more for healthcare. Most modern corps make a small profit percent wise per location especially retail and food. Those add up due to the large number of locations. The new healthcare cost could easily wipe out 25to 50 percent of a locations profit and sometimes more. The only answer is to raise consumer prices to keep the profit margin from becoming so thin a small change in sells could cause a business to close. That or cut hours and hiring.

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Humble2drive

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Where are the signs of this grudge I have displayed? Where do you see any sign of me harboring a grudge with anyone? It doesn't even make sense to say I am harboring a grudge because I disagree with you especially when you also take up the liberal agenda just to bother people.

The grudge theory was my assumption.
Why would taking up the liberal agenda bother people?
Just seems to bother you. :(



I haven't really seen any sign of you being a conservative yet. You thinking that you are taking both sides displays the fact you are in an information bubble.

There seems to be a lot that you "haven't really seen" and why does it matter to you if I am liberal or conservative?
Your second sentence makes no sense so no response.


This isn't the Young Republicans and we are not on a debate team.
Something we can agree on. This IS not young republicans or a debate team. Is that all you were able to learn from a post pointing out that you can learn from taking an opposing side? Do you REALLY read to comprehend or just to formulate your next insult? :(



So you have appointed yourself to be the resident troll then? You haven't provided anything educational in your posts, only opinion.

If provoking debate by riling up the troops is being a troll then okay. Is that a problem?
Just because you have been unable to comprehend any of my posts as educational does not mean that they were not educational to others. All members have different abilities to open their thoughts and minds to opposing view points.
I am sorry that you struggle with that. :rolleyes:

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Humble2drive

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I get so tired of this drivel about corporations making huge profits so they can afford to pay more for healthcare. Most modern corps make a small profit percent wise per location especially retail and food. Those add up due to the large number of locations. The new healthcare cost could easily wipe out 25to 50 percent of a locations profit and sometimes more. The only answer is to raise consumer prices to keep the profit margin from becoming so thin a small change in sells could cause a business to close. That or cut hours and hiring.

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Xig,
You have been tired lately. First it was the Angry White Men thing and now Corporate profits.
Get your bike out and take a good ride to get revigorated. Do you keep it with you?

Some corporations make huge profits but many don't. That is why investing in stock is a challenge. My comment on Pappa Johns was simply to point out that in his particular case his profits may be sufficient to where he will not need to close shop.
He could choose to lower franchisors payments to the franchisee in order to offset the costs to those multi unit owners in trouble. That would be a reasonable response to keep all units open until if/or when they reach a certain profit level again.
At this point we the interested public are going to need to wait and see what happens on a large scale rather than playing doomsayer and predicting the downfall of all American businesses.
1 week ago Obamacare became a done deal so moving ahead I would rather it work instead of hoping for failure.
 
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Humble2drive

Expert Expediter
What does "revigorated" mean?

I am glad you asked that because many people are unaware of the term.

It is a hybrid term from the urban sports dictionary currently in it's first printing by Terri Bradshaw.
It is derived from the word invigorate which means " to give strength or energy to"
When one has been invigorated in the past and then lost that energy they can attempt to by revigorated in the present.
The old English term reinvigorated was too long and complex for use in sports related conversation hence it's shortened version has been used in the context of this thread.
Hope that helps! :)
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
seems to me some of these big chains are playing politics more then marketing.....all they'd need to do is raise the cost of all their menu items by a few cents and their costs would be covered...
since all we are talking here is junk food places anyhow....and people should be cooking at home for more healthy and probably far cheaper fare....Americans eat out far too much....obesity is staggering...
 

xiggi

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Xig,
You have been tired lately. First it was the Angry White Men thing and now Corporate profits.
Get your bike out and take a good ride to get revigorated. Do you keep it with you?

Some corporations make huge profits but many don't. That is why investing in stock is a challenge. My comment on Pappa Johns was simply to point out that in his particular case his profits may be sufficient to where he will not need to close shop.
He could choose to lower franchisors payments to the franchisee in order to offset the costs to those multi unit owners in trouble. That would be a reasonable response to keep all units open until if/or when they reach a certain profit level again.
At this point we the interested public are going to need to wait and see what happens on a large scale rather than playing doomsayer and predicting the downfall of all American businesses.
1 week ago Obamacare became a done deal so moving ahead I would rather it work instead of hoping for failure.

Do you know what the franchise fee is. If they dropped it would pj's have to reduce advertising in turn reducing revenue? Every action has a reaction or those nasty old unforeseen consequences. I honestly don't imagine it bugs the admin that much because their goal is single payer and all the companies talking about reduced hours only fuels that argument. In the end that is their goal afterall.

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xiggi

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Owner/Operator
seems to me some of these big chains are playing politics more then marketing.....all they'd need to do is raise the cost of all their menu items by a few cents and their costs would be covered...
since all we are talking here is junk food places anyhow....and people should be cooking at home for more healthy and probably far cheaper fare....Americans eat out far too much....obesity is staggering...

Mr cheap is saying raise prices Im marking that on my calendar.

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bobwg

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seems to me some of these big chains are playing politics more then marketing.....all they'd need to do is raise the cost of all their menu items by a few cents and their costs would be covered...
since all we are talking here is junk food places anyhow....and people should be cooking at home for more healthy and probably far cheaper fare....Americans eat out far too much....obesity is staggering...

Your so eager to tell someone else how to run their business why dont you let someone else run your business
 

bobwg

Expert Expediter
Xig,
You have been tired lately. First it was the Angry White Men thing and now Corporate profits.
Get your bike out and take a good ride to get revigorated. Do you keep it with you?

Some corporations make huge profits but many don't. That is why investing in stock is a challenge. My comment on Pappa Johns was simply to point out that in his particular case his profits may be sufficient to where he will not need to close shop.
He could choose to lower franchisors payments to the franchisee in order to offset the costs to those multi unit owners in trouble. That would be a reasonable response to keep all units open until if/or when they reach a certain profit level again.
At this point we the interested public are going to need to wait and see what happens on a large scale rather than playing doomsayer and predicting the downfall of all American businesses.
1 week ago Obamacare became a done deal so moving ahead I would rather it work instead of hoping for failure.
Sure he could lower the fees the franchise pays just like you could lower what you charge to haul freight
 

paullud

Veteran Expediter
The grudge theory was my assumption.
Why would taking up the liberal agenda bother people?
Just seems to bother you. :(

Being a liberal doesn't bother me but I think the ideas are wrong. You are claiming you are taking up the liberal agenda just to get people going, that is what bothers me.

There seems to be a lot that you "haven't really seen" and why does it matter to you if I am liberal or conservative?
Your second sentence makes no sense so no response.

It doesn't really matter which one you are. The second sentence made perfect sense, you think you are debating from both sides but you are not which means you are confused or living in a bubble.

Something we can agree on. This IS not young republicans or a debate team. Is that all you were able to learn from a post pointing out that you can learn from taking an opposing side? Do you REALLY read to comprehend or just to formulate your next insult? :(

You missed my point, this isn't a high school debate team so there is no reason to act like you are from one political side or another just to get a reaction. If you think there is another side of the story that needs to be considered then just present the information. Really my next insult? Where have you seen an insult in this thread? I can point out a few from you though.

If provoking debate by riling up the troops is being a troll then okay. Is that a problem?
Just because you have been unable to comprehend any of my posts as educational does not mean that they were not educational to others. All members have different abilities to open their thoughts and minds to opposing view points.
I am sorry that you struggle with that. :rolleyes:

Yes being a troll is a problem since it goes against the COC you agreed to when you joined the site. You have provided nothing of substance that is educational. Your point of he has a lot of money and I think we should redistribute it lacks any educational purpose.

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OntarioVanMan

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OR they could increase the cost of the product....instead of the grandstand show of making cuts....IN MY OPINION....that is....
 
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