Maybe ticketed for parking there too. Just because there is enough room does NOT mean it is room that can be legally used. How does one find this space, just get off the highway blind? Try that in New England with all the low clearance problems.
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Maybe ticketed for parking there too. Just because there is enough room does NOT mean it is room that can be legally used. How does one find this space, just get off the highway blind? Try that in New England with all the low clearance problems.
3. Have said rabbit for dinner.
Sux to be you guys... Your chosen profession... You guys keep drinking that lemonade and the government will have you down to an eight hour workday like Joe blow brown bagger...
You should be just as concerned. While I was joshing you about including vans in my note to my congressman you can bet your boots, or sprinters, that it is only a matter of time that they come after you. These regs have nothing to do with safety, just control.
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That could've been said about blacks in the south after the Emancipation Proclamation, they choose to live there. It doesn't matter separate but equal doesn't work, they choose to live there.
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To name a few:
1. It is dangerous like shown in the example above where the big rig ended up parking on the side of the road because no other parking place could be found and, instead of driving like that driver used to be able to do, the law required him to stop.
2. It is dangerous because a truck at rest is a truck at risk. This is especially true of trucks carrying high value or HAZMAT loads. The new rules could be entitled the "Terrorist and Cargo Thief Assistance Act."
3. It is dangerous because it throws off schedules and motivates people to drive faster. When they are delayed once, say be traffic, it can trigger the requirement for a 30 minute break later, therby turning a traffic delay of say 30 minutes into a one hour delay because the required break is added on. Solution: drive faster to make up that hour.
4. It is dangerous to the environment because the number of parked and idling trucks will greatly increase.
Yes, drivers will figure out how to live under the new rules, but it will not be without cost and it will be without reward.
If the same regulation thing happened to vans, it might be about safety on the surface but it would not be about safety when many truckers rose to support regulating vans. Vans take freight off straight trucks. The more vans that are regulated, the less freight they will be able to haul. The less freight they are able to haule, the better it is for straight trucks.
Oh yes, Senator, yes, yes, yes; these poor, exploited van drivers need to be regulated for their own protection and their own good. If you can save even one life because of regulating vans, it would be worth it. Here's a check for your campaing fund and you'll have my vote for reelection if you do the right thing and help keep van drivers safe. God bless you, Senator, and God bless America!
So too with the new regs that now apply to straight trucks and big rigs. Per the unions who can reduce competiton by regulating all drivers to keep hours closer to what union drivers keep, God bless you, Senator for keeping those independent owner-operators safe! We'll be there for you when you need people to distribute literature in the neighborhoods and get out the vote in election day.
Regulate the van? Won't be that easy. There are millions of "commercial" vans out there. Certainly the DOT won't have enough money or manpower to check every van. I can picture thousand of the roto-rooter vans awaiting in line at the DOT scale sneaking in front of the big rigs, lol.
That would be a bureaucrats dream they could collect a pension trying to figure that out...
If trucks start parking that way frequently and in large numbers, local ordinances will be passed and/or enforced to prevent it.
I'm not going argue it is a good thing by getting out when you are....Phil
Plans frequently must change when things like shipper delays, traffic delays, detours, closed rest areas, full rest areas, etc. develop. Scuh developments are more consequential to people who keep log books than to people who don't; and there are more consequential still when a new eight-hour/30 minute requirement is injected into the mix.
Still considering they have eight hours to get to find a place
The money can be easily raised by placing an excise tax on all new and used van sales. With millions of them out there, there will be billions of dollars raised to find the new program, and the program itself will create jobs (alteit governemnt jobs) and improve safety on the roads. Construction jobs will also be created -- good union construction jobs -- when the excise tax money is spent to build the urgently needed van inspection facilities.
They could've done something really stupid and said between the eighth and the 10th hour a 30 minute break must be taken
You mean something even more stupid than the entire mess?
Of course they could regulate vans. They can, and will, do ANYTHING they darn well please. THEY now hold the power. We have allowed it to happen and unless we put a stop to it, and soon, there will be no end to it.
So where's the breaking point when do you stop squeezing the lemons?
It is getting closer every day. We are in the research mode. I tried to buy one business last year, but someone beat me to it. Looking as always. Only a fool stops researching, learning, and looking. The secret is to know when to jump if the chance presents itself.
That is true if the delay happens at the beginning of the work day, but what if your planned stop is two hours ahead and you get delayed from hour six to hour seven? That gives you one hour to find a place to park for 30 minutes.
How easy is that? For a van driver who has no HAZMAT on board, it is no trouble at all. But for a straight truck or big rig driver in a congested area, it may not be easy at all.
While it may be a nice way to pass time to discuss the possibilities, the rules went into effect today so it will not be long until we learn what the true impacts are. One real-life case is posted above (big-rig parked on side of road). Others will follow, I am sure, including those about people who noticed no impact.
Diane and I began our work day today by going back on the road with reset logs after a few days out of service. We have already been affected by the new rules but I'll wait to see how the rest of this day plays out before telling the story.
I can say that nothing appears out of the ordinary roadside, on ramps, at scales or at rest areas as of 7:00 p.m. on this Monday before the Thrusday Fourth of July. Can't say about truck stops since we have not been to one yet today.
I think your new 34 hour reset rule is even sillier