McCain's VP

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
The only way to get "change" in Washington is NOT to vote in Obama. He is a Socialist/Marxist. The country has been moving to the left for years. The only way to change is to get a "true" conservitive, never been one in my lifetime. A move back to a free market, capitolism, and do away with a much of the socialist programs that we possibly can. THAT would be change. McCain is only SLIGHTLY better than Obama. Obama would accelerate the move to nationalised health, a complete government take over of 20-30% of the entire economy. His next step would be to nationalise all the utilites, and control (raise) the prices to help pay for health care. Then the steel and auto industries. Then raise the gas tax, quickly, to pay for the health care. I was paying over $4 a gallon in England in 1976, national health care. They are paying over $8 now. Norway is at $10.85 last time I heard. National health there. The goal of ALL socialists is to control 100% of the economy and then they have all the power they need. Layoutshooter
 

Dreamer

Administrator Emeritus
Charter Member
The Palin investigation.. in a nutshell, she admitted it, but thinks she followed procedure.


Her brother in law, a state trooper.. abused her sister, and tazed his stepson for punishment.

She felt he should be fired for tazing his step son, her sister's kid.... when they wouldn't fire him, she fired the person in authority and replaced them.

Do you blame her? Proper? Probably not... but understandable.


Dale
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Dreamer... they can spin it any way they want. To me, it's a non-issue. She did what was right, if in fact that's the whole story.

My jury is still out on her. I like the pick, but not sure if it outweighs my "McCain disdain". Romney would've been a lock.

A few things I wonder about his pick... I didn't know Alaska was a major swing state. If McCain is only running for one term, how is she a strong candidate to take over in four years? To me, she's only a phantom VP. If she doesn't agree with McCain on a lot of issues, he'll hide her in the closet; or, she'll RAH-RAH with him, even if she has a different opinion. Doesn't really tell us who she is, does it?

In the end, Palin being the pick will probably get me to suck it up one more time and vote (R); even tho there's no (R) running.

Why are the choices for Pres always Hardcore Liberal vs Slightly Conservative? How do they always get what they want, while we have to accept middle of the road?
 
Last edited:

Broompilot

Veteran Expediter
Here is exactly what is wrong with Democrats: They say they want a change? Change to what? What Exactly does OBama say he can change other than giving 1% of the NGP as a Tax to Foreign Countries on top of what were already doing.

Even if we were not doing anything, why are we being FORCED to give to other Countries. I will donate MY $ as I see fit not as Governments do. But Laws are being passed to cripple us more and more.

So if we want a change, this is it. A strong Lady in as VP, Young, successfull at most things she has attempted to accomplish? I am not 100% sold yet, but I am leaning that way and looking for any Reason to Disscredit Obama. And as for the VP debate lets see if the Dem can actaully be a True Gentlemen and Debate a LADY. Nancy F, I do not think she is as this lady has actually Done Work in her Lifetime.
 

pelicn

Veteran Expediter
I like McCain's choice, the thing that irritates me is that they describe her as a "hockey mom". Good grief! When was the last time you heard a man described as a "soccer dad" or some such BS. This woman seems to be at the top of her game, please describe her as such.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
hockey mom works for me...up at 6am for practices, and then the games, then the car pooling to tournaments...Hockey mom is a hard working descriptive terminology...one that you guys south of the 49th aren't used to hearing much...Just think...a VP from north of the 49th!!! :rolleyes:
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I'm with OVM on this one. I live in a state that protrudes north of the 49th, ya you betcha. Hockey Mom is a respected and proud title.

When my son was 9 years old he wanted to play hockey. I had to sit him down and explain to him that hockey had passed him by. He was way too old to start playing hockey.

Hockey, hockey, sticks and pucks! We all think Edina.....
 

hondaking38

Veteran Expediter
By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer
42 minutes ago



ST. PAUL, Minn. - John McCain's running mate, Sarah Palin, said Monday her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is five months pregnant, an announcement stealing even more thunder from McCain and a Republican presidential convention already overshadowed by Hurricane Gustav she still gets my vote
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer
42 minutes ago



ST. PAUL, Minn. - John McCain's running mate, Sarah Palin, said Monday her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is five months pregnant, an announcement stealing even more thunder from McCain and a Republican presidential convention already overshadowed by Hurricane Gustav she still gets my vote

Its a political ploy...McCain knew of that when he picked Palin...millions of American women have a pregnant teenager goes to show she's normal and theres a connection...:rolleyes:
 

pelicn

Veteran Expediter
I didn't mean that "hockey mom" wasn't a respectable title. I was a "baseball mom" and had bleacher butt for years....I just want to see the men have the same type of title.......if they are in fact doing that job. :D

Hmmm...pregnant daughter? So what?
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I didn't mean that "hockey mom" wasn't a respectable title. I was a "baseball mom" and had bleacher butt for years....I just want to see the men have the same type of title.......if they are in fact doing that job. :D

Hmmm...pregnant daughter? So what?

I was a jr ball coach for 3 years, 7-9 yr olds and with 3 kids of my own in 2 different divisions...and that was just the summer...In the winter I was a 10 pin bowling coach in the jr's and majors....all while being in 3 different adult bowling leagues and tournament play!

Yup..pregnant..so what..no different then millions of other parents in the same situation...
 

highway star

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Hockey Mom? Do Hockey Moms use their minivans to slam other Hockey Mom's minivans into the median wall?

I heard a great description of Palin on the radio this morning...

Ted Nugent with a uterus.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
No they don't slam other mom's into walls, they "cross-check" them!!!! I was a 4H rifle and pistol instructor and a father. Does that make me a "Pop-Gun"? Layoutshooter
 

tallcal101

Veteran Expediter
OOOOPs,make that 7 fingers for all the kids and the houses. She's no McCain yet,but she has another teenage daughter in the wings who's just about ready.If it gets to 10 fingers for all the kids and kids of kids and houses she wins hands down!! She will be Johns equal !!

This is really turning into the nightmare that the GOP really did not need.I truly think the thing to have done was to bring this little pregnancy detail out in the open at the out set. "I'm about to become a Grand Mother,and I'm so proud of my 17 years old for figuering out how to make babies with her loathsome boy friend )!!
Ignorance is not bliss in this situation.She lost the family values to the Oabama girl's I'm afriad. And how about that loose canon brother in law that keeps insisting that she cannot fire him for those nasty personal family things he said to her little sister.That bully,let's fire his as* and ask quesions later.Oh,and by the way,that secesson group I chaired never really meant anything.The fact I would have become an instant millionair as a result of my husbands shares in the North Slope oil could never drive me to become Govenor of the Country of Alaska.Smells like the good old GOP folks,dead oil soaked fish. Oh,one more little tid bit,the bridge to no where WAS supported by Miss good Mom. She later dropped it when the heat from the lower 48 was starting to melt the snow. Politics as usual for the,you guessed it,good old (too bad I cannot see block head and dick head at the convention)GOP.
I'd rather look at Sara instead of cheney anytime so it's not that bad.
It's called vetting John.We have not had this albatros for even a week yet. Can't wait for the next round.It's called making a silk purse out of a sows (a pretty one however) ear. Your grasping at straw and it must be soooooo humiliating. Sucks to be you.
 
Last edited:

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I guess this has to be an issue. Would rather have this than a hillbilly ******* in the presidents office again. You know, Who's your daddy Willy, and don't forget Billy Beer from his brother. And Ted, drive em off the bridge cause she's knocked up Kennedy and Gary Studds who after being caught "diddling" underage male pages gets re-elected several more times thanks to the great State of who gives a **** as long as they are Demecrats MA.!!!!!! And Barney Frank who was running a gay brothel out of his basement and still got re-elected. And those are the people in office, not a daughter. and besides, if this guy is a hillbilly he will fit right in with Slick Willy. Geez people, focus on what is important. What is the presidents job description ( the real one, you know, in the pesky little constitution) and decide, based on experince and performance and backround who is qualified and who is not.
If were are going to throw stones at people not running why has Obama's wife not been invenstigaged for a "sudden but most likely earned" triple didget job promotion just 3 months AFTER her "Man?" was elected to the IL house? A job at a public hospital that is run by the City of Chicago and Mayor Daley. Could NEVER be a conflict there. She is up standing. Layoutshooter
 

tallcal101

Veteran Expediter
Shooter,I'm really starting to get annoyed at you. You just shoot from the hip time after time. Give a little thought to the gist of my post. It was just released that McCain did zero vetting of poor MIss put upon Govenor of Alaska. Hell yes! She said GO when John asked her to be VEEP. It's not her job to vet herself. The GOP is supposed to be a well oiled machine that would not make such a silly mistake when the stakes are so high. Not properly vetting this canidate was a rookie mistake driven by reaction to the real choice,Lieberman by Rush and the boys. They talked him out of it and he bought their load of balony.Those right wing radio guys have way to much influence,way way too much for their own fat a** good.

So,my point is,you can once again drag Clinton in,and Carter and who ever you want.But time is short,and the problem today is not billy beer,or Bills ding dong or Teds near sited bridge avoidence abilities. It's the eagerness of the GOP to rush to a solution to a problem that is overwhemling them. How do we bury Bush and pull this God awfull situation we face out of the muck.? It's about 8 years of failure and the muck is deep. Somebody said the Govenor of Alaska and 48 hours later she was exposed ,in all her glory,warts and all,to the world. It was not fair to her or the GOP faithful. I'm gald they did'nt call me,I would need 10 cosmetic stitch guys and three former FBI bag men to pay off untold millions to a cast of thousands.
Proud to be an American where even anarchists like you are welcome. I mean that in a loving way Shooter.Is that liberal enough for ya'all?
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
BullHockey. Neither party is worth a crap. Obama has not been vetted at all by anyone. Tell me TalCal101, does he have a criminal record? I have a RIGHT to know that. Think he would ever answer? Near-sighted or blind drunk, which fits Teddy? Sniveling coward ran. What a discusting pig. I think the whole bunch should tie plastic bags over thier heads. That would cut out most of the hot air and get rid of a lot of Co2. I won't be allowed to live my life under an Obama president. He HATES everything I believe in. I will NEVER give into that boy. Layoutshooter
 

tallcal101

Veteran Expediter
Thank you for confirming my suspicions about you. Your reference to Obama as boy speaks to your probable heritage,upbringing and level of education.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
You don't no a tinkers **** about my heritage, upbringing, backround or education. I call him a "boy" because he is one. Men don't act like him. He is a whiny, whimpy, woosey baby killing S.O.B. He is known liar. He will not answer a single question about his past. Like does he have a criminal record? You and his wanna be highness can drop the race card. It's older than petrified dinasour crap. I call it the way I see it. My right, I earned it and NO ONE will EVER take it away. I have not racial problems if that is what you were refering too. I would gladly vote for Jerry Currry, a MAN of mixed race. Not a coward boy of mixed race. General Curry earned his was through life. When faced with racial dicrimination he did not file law suit, did not whine, cry it's not fair. He just out performed his classmates and went from Pvt to 3 star General at a time the the Army was just barely starting to be intergrated. I have never in my life judged anyone on silly things like race, gender, religion etc. I judge on actions. I judge on associates. Hand with felons you most likely are one yourself. Like William Ayers. Can't judge this guy on actions, he has never done anything. I never once when going into a burning building asked who lived in it, black, white or green polka dots. They were all people in need. I could never see Obama risk his neck for anything. Boys don't. Layoutshooer
 
Top