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Let's hear the f word
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I was taught in both grade school and high school and in SOME, not all, of my college classes that excessive cussing was often a sign of a weak vocabulary and almost always a sign of rudeness. That is what I was taught. Don't know what that has to do with horses or hockey though.
Sounds like a "Sherman 'T' Potter" thing to me.
Yeah, that.
MASH is PROOF that you can have a wildly popular show, WITHOUT the "F" word, minimal cussing, no frontal nudity of any kind. They must have had writers that could write back then. They used talent.
MASH is PROOF that you can have a wildly popular show, WITHOUT the "F" word, minimal cussing, no frontal nudity of any kind. They must have had writers that could write back then. They used talent.
Sometimes I go over to the High School to pick up my grandsons. While waiting in the lot with the windows down , you can hear a lot more than the F word and to me it is a sad state we are in already. Yes, I'm getting old, because in the 60s, we ,me, the big bad high schoolers used the same words. Now I see the use of constant cussing as a loss of decency everywhere. Yes, cussing is done frequently in the military too. But with the government wanting to make it live and in your face and your kids,,my omy...................
So you used the same language as a teen. Why is it now bad?
You'd have to define "excessive." Often, a well placed, properly used profanity can correctly convey a message like no euphemism or alternate phrasing could ever hope to. Like when Clark Gable uttered, "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a d?mn" at the end of 'Gone With the Wind.' Any other phrasing would have fallen woefully short.
A more recent example, and one with an even bigger impact, was when David Ortiz capped off an emotional pregame ceremony at Fenway Park the day after the second Boston Marathon Bomber was captured. No one classified it as a weak mind trying to express itself, the mark of a weak vocabulary, or rude. It is powerful speech at its most powerful.
"This jersey that we wear today, it doesn't say Red Sox, it says 'Boston.' We want to thank you Mayor Menino, Governor Patrick, the whole police department for the great job they did this past week. This is our f***ing city, and nobody is going to dictate our freedom. Stay Strong!"
+1 and a lazy mind unwilling to do the work to hold an intelligent conversation. In other cases it is a lack of talent attempting to hide the fact. Comedians are a good example of that.
Excessive is what I heard at the shop where I had some work done last week. It was, AT THE LEAST, every other word. Constant "F" bombs, and worse. NO STOP for the several hours I was there.
Like I said, cussing can have a purpose. It can even be fun. In front of kids? Nope. I don't cuss in front of people I KNOW it will offend. It is called being polite.
There is just no class these days. Our TV writers are just trying to see how nasty or foolish they can be. Yes, there are exceptions.
I did know a guy, long dead now, who cussed better than anyone I knew. He was a proper cusser. Used ALL of the correct endings, the "ings" etc.
I could not play the "ballplayer" but I can guess. There is almost, but not always, a better way to say the same thing.
It does not matter. Some day it will be all we hear. Fewer and fewer people have any class.
Like I said, cussing can have a purpose. It can even be fun. In front of kids? Nope. I don't cuss in front of people I KNOW it will offend. It is called being polite.
There is just no class these days. Our TV writers are just trying to see how nasty or foolish they can be. Yes, there are exceptions.
I did know a guy, long dead now, who cussed better than anyone I knew. He was a proper cusser. Used ALL of the correct endings, the "ings" etc.
I could not play the "ballplayer" but I can guess. There is almost, but not always, a better way to say the same thing.
It does not matter. Some day it will be all we hear. Fewer and fewer people have any class.
Let's see, more than 40 years in show business, a TV show that ran 16 years. 8000 songs written, 64 symphonies written, movies. Little, if any cussing. I guess it just may be possible.
OFFICIAL Red Skelton Web Site
They don't get any finer. How could he have done it without "F" bombs? Must have been a accident. It is amazing what happens when there is talent.
OFFICIAL Red Skelton Web Site
They don't get any finer. How could he have done it without "F" bombs? Must have been a accident. It is amazing what happens when there is talent.
Well, the examples above were aired on network TV. The second one was live on national television, and is precisely the type of profanity that the FCC is seeking comments on and looking to allow. If you can't see how that's relevant to network TV airing the f word, then I got nothing.
You must not have a high opinion of Catholics, or Canadians, since they have some of the most prolific routine potty mouths I know of.
It proves the ridiculousness of the absolutes that people have been talking about in this thread. "Profanity is a weak mind attempting to express it's self," is a statement of absolute, and allows no exceptions. I provided two.
I think it's really quite funny that many people who complain about the use of profanity will accuse the users of profanity of being small-minded. It's funny because the complainers so often betray their own closed-mindedness with their refusal to pay attention to anyone who is using foul language. Those who are more interested in how something is being said than they are in what is actually being said, those are the ones with the small, weak minds. To speakers and writers I say that foul language ought to be spoken and written rarely, and to listeners and readers I say that foul language ought never to be used as an excuse to ignore or dismiss everything a person is saying or writing.
"Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer. To suppress the utterance of profanity is to suppress emotion, which is never a healthy endeavor." - Mark Twain
Yeah, we have to have it. Can't have a long running show without it.
Why Everyone Loves “The Andy Griffith Show”
Oh how oh how could they do it?
Why Everyone Loves “The Andy Griffith Show”
Oh how oh how could they do it?
Red Skelton was one of the greatest talents of all time. He did at rare times say **** or hell in his live act but those were few and far between and not nearly as harsh as the f word.
Potaytoe, potahtoe. For some excessive profanity may in no way diminish the credibility of the speaker. For others, it diminishes or eliminates the credibility of the speaker. The former may or may not be wrong. The latter is not wrong either.
Ortiz message would have been every bit as strong and perhaps stronger with the omission of the f word.
Potaytoe, potahtoe. For some excessive profanity may in no way diminish the credibility of the speaker. For others, it diminishes or eliminates the credibility of the speaker. The former may or may not be wrong. The latter is not wrong either.
Ortiz message would have been every bit as strong and perhaps stronger with the omission of the f word.
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The government losing a little control is the important step and thing to focus on. Just because someone has the right to curse doesn't mean they will abuse it or even use it. You are trying to say you want the government to impose your views and what you think is appropriate, that is a dangerous two way street. The freedoms we have as a society are given to all people, and yes even the ones that might do or say things we don't like. The restrictions imposed take away power from the people and hand it over to the government to be used and abused as they see fit, I would rather trust the people.
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So now it's just about degrees of profanity? Good grief.
Of course someone can do a comedy routine without profanity and it still be funny. So what? That's got nothing to do with what the FCC is looking at.
I never said it was wrong, I said it shows a weak and closed mind for those who do the latter, because it does.
Not a chance that the omission of word would have come close to conveying the same emotion. Not a chance. And it's why not a single person who heard it live, including the FCC Chairman and the Commissioner of Baseball, thinks he was wrong in using it.
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