So sorry, I had to do that. At least this is a choice that does not kill.
It is thier choice!!
or a teenager, but definitely not a man. So, according to the literal version as interpreted by Leo, you don't have the right to life until you become a man, because all men are created equal, and all that.
People say that, until someone else starts minding their business. If I started sticking my nose in your business, and you didn't like what I was telling you to do, you'd tell me to mind my own business. Betcha.
It's not specifically mentioned in the Constitution, but it's in there. The right to privacy is a basic human right, an inalienable right, and is thus protected by the 9th Amendment outright...
Sorry, Leo. For one, we can read. We don't need the meaning of the Declaration of Independence interpreted to us. We already know what it means. Second, they say all MEN, not babies, and even boy babies aren't men, so trying to put your desperate literal spin on things won't work, either.
Nowhere in there does it say "life begins at creation," and even if it did, it would say "all life is created equal," or "all human life is conceived equal," but it doesn't say that, because neither is true, and neither is certainly self-evident. The framers of the Declaration of Independence did not address whether life begins at conception or not, despite you somehow seeing in there.
Nor does it say that creation and conception are one in the same, because they're not. Conceiving of something and realizing it are two different things. That's why they use two different words for it that have two very different meanings. The Conception (the concept) is the beginning of it, and the Birth (the coming into existence) is the realization of it, and everything in between are the developments of the concept into the realization of the creation.
If you really want to go and gt all literal with it, the Conception is the beginning, and everything from conception up to the point of adult manhood are the steps to get to the point of the creation of a man, because prior to becoming a man, you're not a man, you're something else, be it a zygote, a fetus, an infant, a toddler, a pre-
You can spin it anyway you like, try and justify it anyway you like, redefine and interpret whatever you want any way you want, but the bottom line is still: you are taking your own morals and beliefs, and using them to justify sticking your nose into other people's business, and telling others what to do by forcing your morals and beliefs onto them against their will.
And if the shoe was on the other foot, you'd be screaming like a little girl. If you don't believe me, read some of your own posts regarding gun control. They don't come across as being penned by someone who will easily bend to someone else's will. Yet you're trying to get others to bend to yours. What's up with that?
People say that, until someone else starts minding their business. If I started sticking my nose in your business, and you didn't like what I was telling you to do, you'd tell me to mind my own business. Betcha.
Many morality issues are society wide, they are adopted and accepted by society as a whole, and are unambiguous to the masses. They cross all boundaries of a society, be it religious, racial, economic, whatever. These are the morals of society.
There are other morals that are adopted and accepted only within certain segments of society, most notably religion, where the followers of specific religious doctrines will have morals that are based on the beliefs of those doctrines.
You will never get someone who is not an adherent of those doctrines, to adopt and accept morals which are based on those doctrines.
Doesn't matter how much you yell and scream at them, doesn't matter how you try to justify your morals and beliefs, doesn't matter how badly you want them to change their mind, unless you can convince them to believe in the basis of those moral beliefs, they will not be able to believe your morals, and thus will not adopt and accept them as their own.
If you take a step back and look at it, abortion and Islam are exactly the same. If you attack it from your point of view, from the basis of your morality, it ain't gonna happen. You won't be able to beat it into them, you won't be able to talk them into it, because you are trying to force your morals and beliefs onto them, while at the same time dismissing their morals and beliefs as irrelevant, and by extension, them.
Know thine enemy, people.