It's the Zimmer Man!

Turtle

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Oh My Gawd..........

Better Yet..........Why Are YOU Here???

You have a History of Trolling......Harrassing.......Bickering With....Insulting.....many members here that EARNED you a Permanent Banishment.

I've been Banned Quite a Few Times myself.....but the Majority of My Banishments were due to My Thoughts Expressed on the Board........NOT Due to Problems with OTHER MEMBERS!! (Except the 1 issue with Ms Cheri.....Oooops.....and I learned my Lesson on that :))

So......answer your own question. HOW....Not WHY....are YOU here after your PERMANENT Banishment??

Or Should we Just Leave it at That................

Read #11 on the Code of Conduct Hit Parade. Craft your responses accordingly. That's as fair a warning as you're gonna get.
 

cheri1122

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Zimmerman didn't learn his lesson too good either, lol.

PS My favorite part was when Zimmerman pushed the gf out [of her own house], barricaded himself in with furniture, and called 911 to report that she was throwing his stuff out. When asked why he was calling them, he said "So someone can hear my side." Seriously: you can't make this stuff up!

PPS I hope everyone who donated to the Zimmerman defense fund [hint, hint] will send more money, the poor guy is broke again. Because, you know, he can't be expected to get a job, or anything, and it takes a lot of smackers to support him [what was it he spent, I think $68,000 on less than a year's "living expenses"?] And his defense fund didn't pay his lawyers anything. Is that a genuine American success story, or what? :rolleyes:
 

cheri1122

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And if it was anyone other than Zimmerman would anyone hear a thing about it or care?

Because there was so much disagreement over Zimmerman's character and truthfulness, it matters: he is the same lying, scared-without-his-gun little man he was then. Liars can get away with it for only so long, before the truth will out.
Even if they're good enough to "pass" a polygraph.
 

LDB

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Because there was so much disagreement over Zimmerman's character and truthfulness, it matters: he is the same lying, scared-without-his-gun little man he was then. Liars can get away with it for only so long, before the truth will out.
Even if they're good enough to "pass" a polygraph.

The question was "And if it was anyone other than Zimmerman would anyone hear a thing about it or care?" not whether he is a liar or scared or anything else, just whether the current situation would be a blip on anyone's radar if it were anyone else. Other than perhaps one minute on either the local late news or midday news, if it even made those, I doubt anyone would hear a word.
 

RLENT

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Zimmerman didn't learn his lesson too good either, lol.

PS My favorite part was when Zimmerman pushed the gf out [of her own house], barricaded himself in with furniture, and called 911 to report that she was throwing his stuff out. When asked why he was calling them, he said "So someone can hear my side." Seriously: you can't make this stuff up!
The guy is a complete moron ...
 

Turtle

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The guy is a complete moron ...

Not about calling 911.

Here's excerpts from an AP news story (full story at the link, emphasis mine):

Dueling 911 Calls Raise Questions

When George Zimmerman and his girlfriend called 911 in the heat of a domestic dispute, they almost certainly knew that they were not just talking to the emergency dispatcher. In the age of Twitter and the 24-hour news cycle, experts say a call to central dispatch can quickly become public, and is often manipulated to spin a story or even lay the groundwork for a criminal defense."

There really has been what I would call a multiyear training program in place, frankly" to use 911 calls strategically, says former Massachusetts prosecutor Wendy Murphy. "And folks, especially people who understand high-profile crimes and the nature of evidence and the rules of evidence and domestic abuse generally, they (know) the power of a 911 call to change not only the trajectory of the case, but to change public opinion and to affect the jury pool."

On Monday, 27-year-old Samantha Scheibe called Seminole County, Fla., dispatchers and accused Zimmerman, the former neighborhood watchman, of pointing a shotgun at her, smashing a coffee table and pushing her. Around the same time, the Sanford man made a 911 call of his own, stating that he did not threaten Scheibe, and that it was she who had broken the table.

When defense attorney Frank Rubino heard the Zimmerman recording on television, his gut reaction was: This sounds staged.

"Didn't Zimmerman sound way too calm?" says the Miami lawyer, who represented former Panamanian dictator Manuel Noriega. "He knows well — and everybody else knows — that those tapes are admissible in court, and it's a way for him to make a positive statement on a very bad situation."

In 2006, the U.S. Supreme Court determined that the use of some 911 calls as evidence did not violate a defendant's Sixth Amendment right to confront and cross-examine his accuser. These "excited utterance" exceptions to the rules involving hearsay are especially crucial in domestic violence cases, in which the victim might be reluctant or even unable to testify, says Murphy.

As a result, she says, victims began to think "strategically" about using 911 calls as a way to have their accusations entered into the record without necessarily having to testify, says Murphy, now an adjunct professor at New England Law in Boston.

Rubino says it behooved Zimmerman to come across as un-excited as possible.

"It's like he was trying to be really calm and saying, 'My crazy girlfriend is doing all this stuff,'" Rubino says. "I think he was trying to create a defense."

Murphy says the unwritten rule in such cases has been "whoever calls first wins." But because the police know that people can be crafty, she says, "they don't weigh that factor as much as they used to in determining which of two people is the real victim."

From his experience in the Trayvon Martin case, it's clear that Zimmerman knew his 911 call would be both a powerful evidentiary and public relations tool, says Ken LaMance of San Francisco, general counsel for LegalMatch.com.

"So it's almost as if he's making statement about the case beforehand — especially if he's not planning on testifying in the future" says LaMance. "It allows him to speak without the fear of cross-examination. So if he can get his side out, and in a clear way, he never has to face the other side asking him questions or follow-ups."
 

letzrockexpress

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The question was "And if it was anyone other than Zimmerman would anyone hear a thing about it or care?" not whether he is a liar or scared or anything else, just whether the current situation would be a blip on anyone's radar if it were anyone else. Other than perhaps one minute on either the local late news or midday news, if it even made those, I doubt anyone would hear a word.

Would anyone care? Really? Let me ask you this: Do you care or is violence by a man against a woman ok with you? Are you a father? Are you a husband? If so would, God forbid, violence against or by one of your family members reach the national stage? I submit it would not but does that make it any more acceptable? The only reason Zimmerman is being vilified in the national spotlight now is because of his pattern of violent behavior in the past. How does that shoe taste???
 

davekc

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He is basically an idiot that you knew would be back. His recent actions are repeated a thousand times over by many on a daily basis. He is only being reported on because of the Martin case and the fact that he wasn't found guilty.
Probably could add that the MSM is all over it because of the on going race angle.

If they weren't playing the race card as some could suggest, you would hear more about this.
This has been going on for awhile but hardly reported. I think we know the reason.
Teen 'knockout game' continues to harm innocent people - NY Daily News
 

Turtle

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How and where in the national spotlight is Zimmerman being vilified? I mean, considering vilified means "to speak ill of, defame, slander." All I've seen in the national spotlight is the reporting of the facts.
 

paullud

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How and where in the national spotlight is Zimmerman being vilified? I mean, considering vilified means "to speak ill of, defame, slander." All I've seen in the national spotlight is the reporting of the facts.

Before and throughout the trial it was happening. Remember the lawsuit with the edited 911 tapes? The incorrect information that was reported about his interrogation and injuries?

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Brisco

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He is basically an idiot that you knew would be back. His recent actions are repeated a thousand times over by many on a daily basis. He is only being reported on because of the Martin case and the fact that he wasn't found guilty.
Probably could add that the MSM is all over it because of the on going race angle.

If they weren't playing the race card as some could suggest, you would hear more about this.
This has been going on for awhile but hardly reported. I think we know the reason.
Teen 'knockout game' continues to harm innocent people - NY Daily News

How and where in the national spotlight is Zimmerman being vilified? I mean, considering vilified means "to speak ill of, defame, slander." All I've seen in the national spotlight is the reporting of the facts.

From your Post alone......Turtles.........it is very clear he is already being Tried.....Convicted....and Executed in this latest Fiasco by the Main Stream and Social Media..........AGAIN.

George Zimmerman is a VICTIM of Social Hatred spurred by Racial Bigotry instigated by a Very Biased Media Flurry............and then everything the Guy had been accused was found False in a Court of Law........but yet the Main Stream Media still has a Hot Fuzzy Feeling for this Guy under their belt region and just will not leave him alone........

Like Dave said above.........there are Domestic Disturbances like this going on ALL OVER the Country probably every single hour of every single day.......and not a single one of them will garner the attention that George Zimmerman now brings.......

I do not approve of this latest incident.........nor will I defend him IF he is found Guilty in Court of Law over these recent charges. However..........the Guy is...and HAS BEEN.....under a lot of Pressure brought upon by People and other Entities that just will NOT leave him be.

And........it is my Opinion that this Pressure is CREATING Psychological Issues within him and will not be surprised..........nor will I hold ill feelings towards him.............if he snaps one day and takes out a few of the Instigators that have created problems in his life.....and then takes himself out too while/when doing so...................
 

Brisco

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How and where in the national spotlight is Zimmerman being vilified? I mean, considering vilified means "to speak ill of, defame, slander." All I've seen in the national spotlight is the reporting of the facts.

Oh Yeah..............And...............

As Fred Sanford used to say...............

 

Turtle

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From your Post alone......Turtles.........it is very clear he is already being Tried.....Convicted....and Executed in this latest Fiasco by the Main Stream and Social Media..........AGAIN.
How, exactly, does my post try, convict and execute him? I posted excerpts from an AP news article that contained the facts as they were known at the time of their writing. Is it just talking about a case enough to qualify as being tried, convicted and executed?

George Zimmerman is a VICTIM of Social Hatred spurred by Racial Bigotry instigated by a Very Biased Media Flurry............and then everything the Guy had been accused was found False in a Court of Law........but yet the Main Stream Media still has a Hot Fuzzy Feeling for this Guy under their belt region and just will not leave him alone........
They're not hounding this guy, they're simply reporting what happened. As for what happened in court, we've all seen many times where just because someone is found not guilty in a court of law doesn't mean they didn't actually do it.

Like Dave said above.........there are Domestic Disturbances like this going on ALL OVER the Country probably every single hour of every single day.......and not a single one of them will garner the attention that George Zimmerman now brings.......
That's because most of those disturbances occur between people who are unknown to the population at large. Get into a disturbance if you're famous, and it gets nationally reported. Ike Turner got some press when he hit Tina. Mike Tyson got a little press for the same thing. Charlie Sheen has been in the news a time or two. Ever heard of Lindsay Lohan or Chris Brown? Some dood breaks into a Vegas hotel and steals some stuff, and it makes national news, because the burglar's name is OJ Simpson. So "not a single one of them" is probably a slight exaggeration.

I do not approve of this latest incident.........nor will I defend him IF he is found Guilty in Court of Law over these recent charges. However..........the Guy is...and HAS BEEN.....under a lot of Pressure brought upon by People and other Entities that just will NOT leave him be.
Every time he doesn't create a fiasco of one kind or another, people leave him alone.

And........it is my Opinion that this Pressure is CREATING Psychological Issues within him and will not be surprised..........nor will I hold ill feelings towards him.............if he snaps one day and takes out a few of the Instigators that have created problems in his life.....and then takes himself out too while/when doing so...................
The pressure may very well be exacerbating already present psychological issues. It's not like he was pure as the driven snow and never got into trouble prior to the Martin incident. If one wants to determine cause and effect, one has to look at the totality of it all.

As for the childish highlighting of my comment in concert with the Fred Sanford video clip, my statement is the truth, in regards to his current fiasco, all I've seen in the national spotlight is the reporting of the facts. If there are other things about this incident in the national spotlight that differs from that, I'd be interested in seeing it.
 

RLENT

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and then everything the Guy had been accused was found False in a Court of Law
No - Zimmerman was found not guilty ... which only means that based on the evidence presented, the jury did not find that evidence conclusive or compelling enough to declare him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

It's not the same thing as finding accusations "false" ...
 

davekc

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No - Zimmerman was found not guilty ... which only means that based on the evidence presented, the jury did not find that evidence conclusive or compelling enough to declare him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

It's not the same thing as finding accusations "false" ...

That is very true. That is the very reason many think he did shoot Martin for a reason other than self defense. And maybe he did? Just nothing there that provides proof either way.
My other point was that his latest foolishness has garnered hourly attention and analysis and the "knockout game" barely gets mentioned. Much can be drawn for why that is. That was my initial point.
 

RLENT

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That is very true. That is the very reason many think he did shoot Martin for a reason other than self defense. And maybe he did?
Perhaps ... it is certainly a possibility.

Just nothing there that provides proof either way.
Yup - short of a confession by Zimmerman or some new (irrefutable, conclusive) evidence, it will remain forever an uncertainty for some ...

My other point was that his latest foolishness has garnered hourly attention and analysis and the "knockout game" barely gets mentioned. Much can be drawn for why that is. That was my initial point.
Got it.

Yup ... there are all sorts of possibilities on that as well, including bias by the media
 

Brisco

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My other point was that his latest foolishness has garnered hourly attention and analysis and the "knockout game" barely gets mentioned. Much can be drawn for why that is. That was my initial point.

Be Careful....the Feeble minded may have a Label waiting for you for having thoughts like this............
 
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