I want to set up the Expediters Hall of Fame the right way.

Bruno

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
US Marines
We are looking for a group of people that can meet every year at the EXPEDITE EXPO that wants to be apart of the Expediters Hall of Fame. The site has done very well and has had almost 14,000 hits over the last year with not many people knowing about it. The Expediters Hall of Fame is not owned by a company or person it works off of donations of people and companies . I was hoping to put a panel of people together to vote on things with the EHOF as OVM calls it. I have talked with others in regards to this matter, most agreed that a group needs to be put in place before the Expediters Hall of Fame can be at the Expo every year.

I really want to see this happen, as it will be great for our business and the Expedite Expo. The website is www.expeditershalloffame.com if you want to see the site.

Thanks
 

Slacktide

Seasoned Expediter
Hold on, I'm going to go get some popcorn and a good seat. This could get entertaining.

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Steady Eddie

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Y'all be nice now. It is his passion. He is asking for help, why not jump in with that? But, I did pass by a sign that said "Teachers Hall of Fame" the other day. Who knew?
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
I know, Bruno, that the Expediters Hall of Fame has been a favorite project of yours for a long time. Ideas for your consideration are respectfully submitted below.

Have you thought about simply proceeding on your own instead of trying to enroll people in a larger and more complex collaborative project? I think you might find that to be a more effective course -- effective in the sense that things can get more quickly done.

Years ago I cooked up the idea of a collaborative project to produce a history of expediting. The idea was to use the magic of the internet to assemble a group of people who would contribute and/or collect historical information about the industry. In the interests of objectivity, what would be included and excluded from the final product would be determined not by me but by the group. The project was abandoned because I quickly learned why history books and articles are produced not by committees but by individual authors.

Creating a group of people to vote on who should be in or out of an Expediters Hall of Fame may seem like the politically correct and fair thing to do, but someone still has to decide who will be in and out of the voting group and what the qualifications should be. Identifying any expediter, truck, vendor, fleet owner or carrier for inclusion in the EHOF, no matter who decides, will raise questions and criticism among outsiders about why that entity was selected when another was not.

Proceeding by yourself does not avoid these issues but proceeding with a group does not resolve them either. Given the level of response you have received to your prior attempts to build a hall of fame board, advisory group, voting body or whatever else it may be, it seems to me that proceeding on your own will get the job more quickly done.

When it comes to things that do not yet exist, people do not know what they want, but they do know what they don't want, but they don't know what they don't want until they see what it is.

I suggest that the best way to proceed is to build your hall of fame yourself. That will give people something to see and react to. You can then modify and expand the project as people offer suggestions and criticism.

That is if people react at all.

You are running a risk here, Bruno, that you will pour countless hours of time and effort into a project that people simply won't care about. You have seen it happen to people who have written books about expediting. They bring a book out only to see it ignored. You have seen it happen to people who built web sites that were intended to be as good or better than EO. They came nowhere close and then faded away. The same thing could happen to EHOF. You could put a ton of time and effort into it only to see it evaporate before your eyes.

Note also what happens when people leave expediting and move on to a new career, retirement or the cemetery. Even among prominent expediters who are widely known in the industry, when they leave, they leave. It is no different than any other job. People stay in touch with a few industry friends while they are still alive but that's about it.

There are millions of people who worked for the railroads, for example, but only a tiny percentage of them remained interested enough in things railroad to get involved in railroad museums or subscribe to a railroad magazine.

Expediting is a tiny, tiny, tiny slice of the trucking industry. So tiny that FedEx Custom Critical executives once mentioned to me that many people at FedEx headquarters in Memphis do not even know the expedite division exists. Even if interest in EHOF was high among expediters, the numbers would be small because expediting is small.

The Open Forum provides further evidence of people's transient interest in the people of expediting. You can go back into years-old posts and see people who were once very active here and recognized as leaders but have since disappeared from view. I am an active member today but know that all notice of me will cease after about 30 days of inactivity. I know that because I have done that experiment. When I stop posting here, it takes about 30 days for a thread I started or posted in to disappear off the front page. After that, it is rare for anyone to refer to or post a link to anything I wrote.

Yet another indicator of people's disinterest in the people of expediting is the contractor of the year program that FedEx Custom Critical used to run. I don't know how long it ran but do know it was dropped early in the 2000's. There are people working at FedEx today who were around when the contractor of the year was recognized. I doubt you could find six people in the building who could name even one contractor of the year if asked.

Expediters who pass away live on in the memories of other expediters who knew them, but when the people who keep the memories also die, the memories die too. A hall of fame might give an expediter's story a longer run but only to the extent that the web site itself persists and others care. Frankly, most people don't.

Look at the larger trucking industry. It goes back much further than expediting. It involves millions more people. Its contribution to and participation in the history of the U.S. and Canada is huge. But is there a trucking hall of fame? Is there even a list posted somewhere of America's (greatest, most infuluential, noteworthy, famous) truckers?

I know of a trucking museum and trucking history magazine but there is no hall of fame (at least none that I have heard of). I invite you to think about why that is and then to re-think your project.

Perhaps an easier way to recognize and honor the people of expediting that you want to recognize and honor would be to establish an expediter profiles web site or a journal or blog in which you profile selected expediters, trucks, carriers of historical interest, etc. on an ongoing basis.

Another thought might be to get involved with the truck museum at the I-80 Truck Stop in Walcott and support them as a contributor of information about expediting.
 
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greg334

Veteran Expediter
Y'all be nice now. It is his passion. He is asking for help, why not jump in with that? But, I did pass by a sign that said "Teachers Hall of Fame" the other day. Who knew?

I did help him but for some reason, most of the advice was ignored. To be exact, Phil echoes a couple key things I suggested not just once but a number of times which is more than I do for paying customers. I think Phil has read some of my comments about the subject and are repeating them when I think about it.

The funny thing is that the site needs a cleanup and I'm wondering where the hits are coming from?

So I gave up helping for the third time.
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
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Bruno

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
US Marines
I did help him but for some reason, most of the advice was ignored. To be exact, Phil echoes a couple key things I suggested not just once but a number of times which is more than I do for paying customers. I think Phil has read some of my comments about the subject and are repeating them when I think about it.

The funny thing is that the site needs a cleanup and I'm wondering where the hits are coming from?

So I gave up helping for the third time.

Greg

Your input was nothing like what Phil posted. I highly doubt that Phil has even seen what you posted, as Phil has himself blocked for seeing what you post. Your thoughts was of voting on the EHOF could be based on how many post's someone has on EO. I'm not going to let your small thoughts of bashing people or the cause upset me. You have a wonderful day.
 

UncleTed

Not a Member
We are looking for a group of people that can meet every year at the EXPEDITE EXPO that wants to be apart of the Expediters Hall of Fame. The site has done very well and has had almost 14,000 hits over the last year with not many people knowing about it. The Expediters Hall of Fame is not owned by a company or person it works off of donations of people and companies . I was hoping to put a panel of people together to vote on things with the EHOF as OVM calls it. I have talked with others in regards to this matter, most agreed that a group needs to be put in place before the Expediters Hall of Fame can be at the Expo every year.

I really want to see this happen, as it will be great for our business and the Expedite Expo. The website is www.expeditershalloffame.com if you want to see the site.

Thanks

Does John Elliott know you have his company logo on your HOF site?
 

Bruno

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
US Marines
Does John Elliott know you have his company logo on your HOF site?

Yes, who do you think sent it to me. John has been a big supporter of the website since the start and has offered funds for the cause. I'm not going to respond to any negitive post as it takes away from the cause.
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
UncleTed wrote:

Does John Elliott know you have his company logo on your HOF site?

Wow, you think Bruno just pasted the Load 1 logo on the site without permission? Or would there be a problem with Johns supporting the idea and site????
 

UncleTed

Not a Member
Yes, who do you think sent it to me. John has been a big supporter of the website since the start and has offered funds for the cause. I'm not going to respond to any negitive post as it takes away from the cause.

Just asking a question. A few of us have been wondering if he is endorsing your site, that's all. No need to be so sensitive.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Greg

Your input was nothing like what Phil posted. I highly doubt that Phil has even seen what you posted, as Phil has himself blocked for seeing what you post. Your thoughts was of voting on the EHOF could be based on how many post's someone has on EO. I'm not going to let your small thoughts of bashing people or the cause upset me. You have a wonderful day.

I was warned and now it happened.

Dave,

I would like to remind you that when you needed somebody to talk to when you were getting beaten up over it, I stood solid in my advice while not criticizing one eo member about what they said on the subject.

Phil said what I said to you over a year ago and he could not have read it about the eohf here because I didn't say it here. It isn't about Phil anyways, it is about ignoring advice and then acting incredulous when you are reminded about the advice.

If you want to pursue something, great but don't keep bringing it up and expecting validation when you acted like a child the second time around. Or should I remind you of that?

Oh and look up in the dictionary - JOKE because when the voting thing was discussed, we were joking around.
 

TeamCaffee

Administrator
Staff member
Owner/Operator
I have to admire Bruno for not giving up on his project. He has put a lot of time and thought his EHOF.

I know I enjoy when people post pictures of when Expediting first started and their first vehicle. I also enjoy hearing about what it was like before QC and cell phones. There are a lot of funny and interesting stories out there and if Bruno can preserve them then he has my support.

There have been drivers who have influenced the industry and then gone on to either other areas of trucking or have retired. A couple names come to mind who I believe have influenced trucking:

Glen Rice
Lawrence McCord
Jeff Jenson
Terry O'Connell

Just to name a few their stories need to be preserved as well as pictures. I like the idea of a board so that their will be many more ideas to work with.

Do not give up Bruno!
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
It wouldn't be beyond the realm of possibility.

Now, I have never met Bruno face to face..Have never spoken to him in any manner..I have exchanged a total of 3 PMs with him. I have read most everything he has posted here since i have been here for over 6 yrs....and nothing i have read would lead me to that conclusion...

If I may ask, what leads you to say that? And i am asking strictly to maybe gain some insight into something that i may have missed..If you rather not post your answer here, please feel free to PM me...Thanks in Advance...
 

paullud

Veteran Expediter
Bruno I was wondering where you see the EHOF going? Do you plan to have special nominations like Highway Angels or Heroes? Do you think it would be easier to hold nominations/voting ahead of time so the inductee is more likely to attend the Expo? It would seem you could make the announcement at the Expo to get more attention and a cash prize never hurts. I think it is a great idea to keep working on this and let it develop.

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Bruno

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
US Marines
I have to admire Bruno for not giving up on his project. He has put a lot of time and thought his EHOF.

I know I enjoy when people post pictures of when Expediting first started and their first vehicle. I also enjoy hearing about what it was like before QC and cell phones. There are a lot of funny and interesting stories out there and if Bruno can preserve them then he has my support.

There have been drivers who have influenced the industry and then gone on to either other areas of trucking or have retired. A couple names come to mind who I believe have influenced trucking:

Glen Rice
Lawrence McCord
Jeff Jenson
Terry O'Connell

Just to name a few their stories need to be preserved as well as pictures. I like the idea of a board so that their will be many more ideas to work with.

Do not give up Bruno!

Linda

Thank you with your positive thoughts. As always you and Bob are role models to the Expedite community and set an example of how someone with a positive attitude can do in the expedite business. My problems in the past with this project are just that, in the past. I want to move forward with a positive out look on things and not listen to all the negative things in regards to what people may think of the Expediters Hall of Fame concept. It will happen, because I won't stop trying to get it done either. With a board in place that can meet at the Expedite Expo every year, I feel this will be a very positive thing for the Expedite community.

We always see all the negative posts about different carriers, I just want to HELP show where Expediting has gone since the start. I would like to share the history and honor those who help make our business what it is today. It's not about how many posts a person has on a website or how poplar a person is. It's about Expedite Trucking.
 
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