How many of us are hauling at reduced rates and if

[rollnthunder]

Im just curious to see how many of us are hauling at reduced rates and if so what are you seeing.Is it a $1.17 $1.14 or what?I know we all haul some loads at reduced rates to get out of bad area's but im saying on a everyday basis.Did you sign on with a carrier for asay a $1.25 a mile and you are only getting $1.09 on most of your runs.Also what is everyone getting for fuel surcharges.Im interested in seeing this.Im not doing this to start problems but to see whats going on at other carriers.And if you could and would post who you are leased to.Thanks

 

[cadillack]

RE: How many of us are hauling at reduced rates an

Who Are you leased to? I notce that there hasn't been any imediate replies to this post.Is this something people do not want to discuss. Well we leased on to Express-1 in Nov.06. They told us in orientation they paid $1.20 per mile,and that they did some NLM for $1.12 to get you back to a good area.Well that was really misleading,cause we have only had 4 loads that paid $1.20. That being said I would still rather be running for $1.12 than sitting 8th out in a parking lot waiting on a load that pays $1.20. And they have a good bunch of dispatchers there. That has been nice..... From what I read and hear there are a lot of people taking lower rates now just to stay running. I see a lot of trucks going up for sale . Mine might be next if things don't pick up soon.:'(

 

[cadillack]

RE: How many of us are hauling at reduced rates an

Fuel SURCHARGE... 15 CENTS

 

[terryandrene]

RE: How many of us are hauling at reduced rates an

Rollin'

You might try being a bit more specific with your own situation if you want folks to SHARE their personal info with you. If you had said:

I am an (owner/operator)(driver) with ABC Expedite and averaged $x.xx in a (B)(C)(D)(E) truck during 2006. My fuel surcharge last week was xx cents. How does this compare with your carrier?

 

[rollnthunder]

RE: How many of us are hauling at reduced rates an

>Rollin'
>
>You might try being a bit more specific with your own
>situation if you want folks to SHARE their personal info
>with you. If you had said:
>
>I am an (owner/operator)(driver) with ABC Expedite and
>averaged $x.xx in a (B)(C)(D)(E) truck during 2006. My fuel
>surcharge last week was xx cents. How does this compare
>with your carrier?

Well i was just trying to get the thread going first before i put my neck out on the line.But anyways my truck is on with Transtewart and what we are being offered is $1.04 to 1.09 mainly a $1.09 up to $1.14 sometimes and we figured out fS and its only 9 cents a mile.So how does this compare to others.We are running a D unit.

 

[jaminjim]

RE: How many of us are hauling at reduced rates an

We are with PII and hardly ever run a reduced rate. FSC is more than double what you are getting. So it seems you are running for near 20 cents less per mile.

 

[Jefferson3000]

RE: How many of us are hauling at reduced rates an

Hey Rolln,

Another question for you: What kind of deadhead percentage are you running? That plays in a lot. Sometimes your smaller carriers can't pay out the biggers bucks, but they many times watch their trucks closer so they have less deadhead.

All that glitters isn't gold.



Driver for 15 years
O/O for 13 years

Drive Safe!

Jeff

 

[rollnthunder]

RE: How many of us are hauling at reduced rates an

I couldnt tell you the % off the top of my head but most loads you will deadhead 50 to 150 miles.Most of the time there is no compensation for it.Like last week deadheaded a 150 miles from S.C to N.C to pick up a load and then hauled at $1.09 a mile with no help on the deadhead.I know sometimes you can get help on deadhead pay and sometimes you cant so i understand that.

 

[jaminjim]

RE: How many of us are hauling at reduced rates an

Well looks like you might want to contact your company and talk to them about your concerns. On the surface it seems they not be your best choice. But as most will say you should first talk to your company and see if your rate can somehow be improved. If that fails then very carefully interview other drivers and carriers for a better situation. Remember that changing companys is very costly.

 

[ABEJR2004]

RE: How many of us are hauling at reduced rates an

I am also with TranStewart and what rollinthunder is about right, but I gotta add that I am always asked is the rate ok to bid at, if an area is slow moving it may be at the lower end. I have been offered help on DH but stuck myself by accepting loads a little too far out. And I had to eat the DH to get back in a Lane.(Only been with TranStewart since Sept.06 so had to learn their freight lane). And while I do miss the 1.35+ I was getting at that large company (for 8 months) I got hurt bad because I was not moving.

And yes I did it all by the book, had reserve cash, just about took every load offered, had very good numbers. And now at this point trying not to loose my truck + the all the other personal finances that took a hit from me sitting. I had to make a call on what to do next

Now I know there are a lot of factors to consider, and changing carriers is a big decession to make but I had to. My only regret is that TranStewart was not taking on trucks when I was looking.

So as far as running at a reduce rate I guess it depends on your situation. I left other experditor's sitting at truckstops, just to return 3 days later and they are still sitting there????

GIVE ME THEM MILES


AbeJr
TranStewart #6680
Stand Tall & Be Proud

 

[jaminjim]

RE: How many of us are hauling at reduced rates an

Well the old saying of if the wheels aint turnin ya aint earnin, comes in to play. It can be a tough act to ballance. Money can be made at $1.20 total pay. Just harder to make the ends meet. If you get $2.00 a mile but only run 800 miles a week can you make the fixed costs along with the other cost (Varible).

Thats why there is no one carrier thats good for all of us.

 

[davekc]

RE: How many of us are hauling at reduced rates an

I think Jim is right on the money. Also, we have ran a few reduced raters, but only on quick west coast return trips. Any other time we have taken two cheaper loads together to get to a real good rate. Some of those might be classified as ltl loads.
Running at close to a dollar even with no deadhead sounds dangerously close to a disaster if done consistantly.

Probably should clarify. hen I say reduced, I mean nothing under $1.10 per mile plus FSC. And as Jim mentioned, FSC averages have been roughly .20 to .25 cpm.








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[rollnthunder]

RE: How many of us are hauling at reduced rates an

>I am also with TranStewart and what rollinthunder is about
>right, but I gotta add that I am always asked is the rate ok
>to bid at, if an area is slow moving it may be at the lower
>end. I have been offered help on DH but stuck myself by
>accepting loads a little too far out. And I had to eat the
>DH to get back in a Lane.(Only been with TranStewart since
>Sept.06 so had to learn their freight lane). And while I do
>miss the 1.35+ I was getting at that large company (for 8
>months) I got hurt bad because I was not moving.
>
>And yes I did it all by the book, had reserve cash, just
>about took every load offered, had very good numbers. And
>now at this point trying not to loose my truck + the all the
>other personal finances that took a hit from me sitting. I
>had to make a call on what to do next
>
>Now I know there are a lot of factors to consider, and
>changing carriers is a big decession to make but I had to.
>My only regret is that TranStewart was not taking on trucks
>when I was looking.
>
>So as far as running at a reduce rate I guess it depends on
>your situation. I left other experditor's sitting at
>truckstops, just to return 3 days later and they are still
>sitting there????
>
>GIVE ME THEM MILES
>
>
>AbeJr
>TranStewart #6680
>Stand Tall & Be Proud

You are right if they are going to BID on something at a reduced rate because you are in a bad area or freight is slow they will ask.But Dispatch is calling and offering runs at $1.09 from detroit and in the general area.Thats what i dont understand.I know if we are in a bad area for freight or you see alot of trucks and want to just get out of that area they can and will bid at a reduced rate.I have hauled maybe 5 loads at regular rate since oct 06 what about the fuel surcharge and why is it dispatch will call and offer a load and say plus fuel.So then we ask what is fuel surcharge well i dont know....

 

[ABEJR2004]

RE: How many of us are hauling at reduced rates an

I can't put a finger on it. With this being the slow period and so many of us are sitting. And asking whats going on? But I am sure it will pick up soon (I Hope) And the higher rate will be more the Norm.

I have concerns, And right now I am not ashamed to say I am in a fight right now To stay afloat, gotta do what ya gotta do.

Rollin, I sent you PM if thats ok.




AbeJr
TranStewart #6680
Stand Tall & Be Proud

 

[ABEJR2004]

RE: How many of us are hauling at reduced rates an

PS: Not defending the lower rate, But what a situation may sometimes dictate.

AbeJr
TranStewart #6680
Stand Tall & Be Proud

 

[rollnthunder]

RE: How many of us are hauling at reduced rates an

> We are with PII and hardly ever run a reduced rate. FSC is
>more than double what you are getting. So it seems you are
>running for near 20 cents less per mile.

Jaminjim, if you dont me asking are you running solo or team?Also what kind of miles are you seeing weekly.I have talked to other drivers from other carriers and they are saying the same as you.They are not hauling for a reduced rate UNLESS they are in a bad freight area such as Loreado or kansas city which i think is ok to haul at a reduced rate to get back into freight area.Im also hearing the same on fuel surcharge most are 15 to 21 cents a mile.
So i did some figuring if i hauled 1500 miles a week at full rate of $1.20 plus a decent fuel surcharge of say 18 cents a mile thats 1.38
$2070 a week or at the rate we are going $1.14 plus 8 cents for FS is $1830 week.That dont sound like much but just think thats $240 a week times 52 weeks.Or almost a full tank of fuel a week.Maybe im just slow but how many of you would like a extra $200 to $300 a week or maybe every other week.
Is it safe to say that most SOLO straight trucks are getting 1500 miles a week
$240@52 weeks equals $12,480 dollars
Or
$240 say for 26 weeks is $6,240 dollars.

 

[rollnthunder]

RE: How many of us are hauling at reduced rates an

Let me just say for the record that im not saying anything negetive towards transtewart.I was just wanting to size up what we are seeing with everyone else.There are things going on in this business that hopefully will straighten out RATES.I know there are alot of people getting there own authority and running a 1 or 2 truck business and are under cutting alot of us on freight.All i wanted out of this thread was INFO on whats going on in this business.Thats all.So please dont be negative towards them.I know Express-1 is hauling alot at $1.12 and thats right from them.The whole idea of these forums is for info.I dont mind asking questions that alot of people wont ask.But with forums you need to decide whats right and whats not.Remember this forums are just for info always use some judgment on what you read

 

[jeffman164]

RE: How many of us are hauling at reduced rates an

Very good question rollinthunder. Was wondering the same thing. So are the solo drivers averaging 1500 miles per week then ? Begrudgingly , Iv'e had to resort to reduced rates to keep moving also. Sometimes it doesn't seem worth it. Averaged 1400 miles for past 12 weeks in a D unit.

 

[rollnthunder]

RE: How many of us are hauling at reduced rates an

>Very good question rollinthunder. Was wondering the same
>thing. So are the solo drivers averaging 1500 miles per week
>then ? Begrudgingly , Iv'e had to resort to reduced rates to
>keep moving also. Sometimes it doesn't seem worth it.
>Averaged 1400 miles for past 12 weeks in a D unit.

Well when you say reduced how reduced?Also another good point about the reduced rate thing is how many of you know what your Cost per mile is to run that truck.If it cost you 36cents a mile to run then you are still making some money but if you have a 70CPM then you wont be making alot.Jeffman who are leased with if you dont mind me asking.Like i said im only doing this to see how everyone else is doing.I have no intentions on leaving TRANSTEWART.I also want to thank Jerry at transtewart for talking to me tonight about these issues and offering to try and help me get a driver in my truck while i deal with some health issues that may keep me out of the truck for a while. Thanks

 

[jeffman164]

RE: How many of us are hauling at reduced rates an

Don't want to say who leased to at this time cause looking around a little bit for new carrier. Reduced rate is about same as your rate though . D.H about 25% which is very bad!! If I was getting some awesome amount of miles, it would be different. You said that you are leased on with transtewart. Heard from previous posts that they are a good company to work for.Was thinking about contacting them. As a side question, what kind of miles and pay + surcharges are C&M getting?