hello june.
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There ya go, John... a really permanent solution to the problem!!!
Simple but effective I guess. LOL
ebsprintin
Veteran Expediter
instead of continually plugging the idea here, why don't you have dispatch put a note in your profile that you want cheap freight. leave me out of it.
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westmicher
Veteran Expediter
Because to be fair, everyone needs to participate. Fair is the key.
A change in policy is coming. Can't leave you out of it. Clearly the customer's needs are not being met. Can't you hear John's words? He didn't say these things simply to give his fingers something to do. He is telling us gently that change IS coming.
I can and I will be a part of the answer...
Let's all try to keep our heads here!!!
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What happens when it's busy?? If you take the cheaper loads now, you will have to take them then as well.
eb proves the whole fleet does not agree. For a decision to be made CV or no CV, John would have know how much coverage he has vs. what he needs.
I agree with eb, put it out to the fleet and find out who will accept lower rates. Even then, John probably won't have enough coverage. I imagine the answer is a combination of the two.
Before any of you say I run ST's and don't have a dog in this hunt, I'll say your wrong. I have a small ST that has done very well taking sprinter and CV loads that were turned down.
My $02.
westmicher
Veteran Expediter
I guess we will have to still take the good paying runs too...
[QUOTE/]eb proves the whole fleet does not agree.[/QUOTE]I missed the part where Load1 is a democracy? Change IS coming!
[QUOTE/]For a decision to be made CV or no CV, John would have know how much coverage he has vs. what he needs.[/QUOTE]John has already figured that out... we are NOT meeting the customer's needs. The question of CV or no CV can be answered by policy changes with the $printer class. I have several ideas I think would work, I'd love to participate!
[QUOTE/]I agree with eb, put it out to the fleet and find out who will accept lower rates. Even then, John probably won't have enough coverage. I imagine the answer is a combination of the two.[/QUOTE]How would that question be phrased???
Maybe, "How many of you would like to take all the poor paying runs so that those that refuse to participate can take all the cherry runs?"
IMPOSSIBLE!!!
Think of all the CVs that are definitely going to demand their share of cherry jobs... adding CVs is NOT the answer!
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westmicher
Veteran Expediter
Oh man!!! I just realized that it would be really, really easy to draw a dashed line around my neck!!! A sort of target! Have you thought about that?
" Don't stick your neck out too far!"
Change IS coming!
" Don't stick your neck out too far!"
Change IS coming!
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guido4475
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WTG Tom....part of the Load 1 family!...
errrr....Windsor....LOL Thanks Guido for the tip!....hahaha
and great to see you posting now too....
Sitting too long may drive some to drinking...sitting too long drove me to posting....lol...
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I've taken $.90 a mile and $1.50 a mile, slow or busy, it didn't matter. What matters is, it all adds up.
My point exactly. One load leads to another. Some lose sight of that.
In any case, John will do what's best to cover the customers needs.
guido4475
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My goal is to shoot for $1.00 a mile for all miles. I rarely ask what a load pays, and trust them for decent rates. I do not ask for it, demand or really mention it unless asked. I also state the smaller and lighter the load is the more I am willing to bend on rates. The same with deadhead. Less deadhead, the less I will ask for. So far, I am happy with my numbers, as for a yearly average I have exceeded my expectations doing it this way. It may not be everyone's way, or to their liking, but it works for me this far.
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Or take them now and trust the rate will increase as the freight does. Tough choices to make but ones that have to be made. Don't get this wrong but you all chose sprinters and have to make the choices that go along with the changing market. Don't get caught asking " Who Moved My Cheese ".
if you don't know what that means, you should. I think you should have a choice in times like these. I also think, maybe a small group should be focusing on sprinters only. Either way I wish all of you the best and hope we figure out something to relieve the problem only thing is this is expediting and it is a very unstable profession.
if you don't know what that means, you should. I think you should have a choice in times like these. I also think, maybe a small group should be focusing on sprinters only. Either way I wish all of you the best and hope we figure out something to relieve the problem only thing is this is expediting and it is a very unstable profession.
ebsprintin
Veteran Expediter
my problem is with people coming on here and advocating change that detracts from everyone. john will do what john needs to do. he has the data, and he knows how to manage the business in relations to the data. dispatch knows how i operate. they know how cooperative i am. so i dont need people trying to create a movement here that would suggest i'm in favor of cutting rates. i'm in favor of letting john do what john does best. i can adapt to that. no problem. funny thing is going to be seeing who complains after changes are made.
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Eb, you cannot tell me it's not smart business to be competitive when times are slow and or times call for cheaper bids?! Would u rather sit 3 or 4 days waiting for $1.15 a mile or run everyday or every other day at 95cents? And I disagree with you Sir Mr. Wolfe, this job is a lot like the housing market! You have Times when it's a buyer's market and times that it's a sellers market! So you don't have to have the concept of once you bid lower you always have to. That's far from the truth! I say we become more competitive! I dunno about you but sitting pays none of my bills!!! Neither does being stubborn and saying I won't play the game! If you don't play you can't win I say!!!
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Or Eb, here is the alternative point blank! John hires cargo vans! The rate is 90 cpm! Your 1st out in Laredo but 2 cargo vans behind you guess what??? Just because you didn't wanna play the game and the 2 behind you that did means your still in Laredo!!!Have fun brother! If your industry is changing either change with it or fall behind!!! Dont get this twisted, because trust me there are plenty of times we can still run the way we do, just not as often as we used to!!!We've been spoiled, so let's not be blinded here!!! That's all I ask.
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ebsprintin
Veteran Expediter
i really can't make my point anymore clear than i already have.
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westmicher
Veteran Expediter
I'm advocating that we listen to what the boss has clearly said, that we are not currently meeting the customer's needs, and something must be done. I'm advocating that we ALL support the eventual change(s) that will come to meet our customers needs. Asking to be left alone, to the detriment of others, is not realistic.
I clearly see one of the biggest problems is our $printer class turndown rate, which I expect will be a focus of much of the changes.
I'm just sayin...
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Windsor
Guest
What does the fox say???
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Windsor
Guest
At load1 I have never turned down a load over it's rate. I rarely ever ask what the load pays period. If I turn down a load it's usually because it's going someplace I don't want to go to because it's to hard to get back out. If were in a bad area and have to sit for days to get out or burn up two tanks a fuel to dh out well that don't make $ sense as a truck owner. So let's not forget that cargo van rates isn't the reason a lot of us turn loads down. But there is a few of us and they know who they are. I'll take cargo van rates if I have to. I can still make money with cargo van rates. We can't make money sitting or deadheading.