Friggen' Socialist

garyatk

Seasoned Expediter
If I am going to die, please don't torture me. Just give it to me quickly!!! But I will fight to live as long as I can... How about you LDB???
 
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Poorboy

Expert Expediter
That is the same thing people said about Bush 4 years ago and we got Obama. Then in 4 years they will say the same thing about Romney (if he wins), and America just keeps putting on the same old worn out shoes trying to convince themselves that they are new...

Obumma HAS to go!! and I really am not impressed with Romney either. BUT if he is the candidate for pres. I'll have to vote for him because i sure DO NOT want this lying clown(Obumma) back in!!
 

garyatk

Seasoned Expediter
Obumma HAS to go!! and I really am not impressed with Romney either. BUT if he is the candidate for pres. I'll have to vote for him because i sure DO NOT want this lying clown(Obumma) back in!!

America's cancer will once again go diagnosed but untreated... How much longer can America last? I am no doctor, but it doesn't look good! Yet the voters keep sending cigarettes on election day...
 

cableguymn

Seasoned Expediter
Obumma HAS to go!! and I really am not impressed with Romney either. BUT if he is the candidate for pres. I'll have to vote for him because i sure DO NOT want this lying clown(Obumma) back in!!

Give me 5 reasons to vote for Romney not against Obama.. What will Romney do that his record supports that obama would not?
 

xiggi

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Give me 5 reasons to vote for Romney not against Obama.. What will Romney do that his record supports that obama would not?

Open drilling
Not raise corp taxes
Dismantle Obama care
Have far less liberal advisors

Not a best choice for sure but anyone who claims he is no different than what we have now isn't thinking clearly.


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garyatk

Seasoned Expediter
Open drilling
Not raise corp taxes
Dismantle Obama care
Have far less liberal advisors

Not a best choice for sure but anyone who claims he is no different than what we have now isn't thinking clearly.


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I believe you are giving him way too much credit, or believing too many campaign lies...
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
Your right. It would have little impact. When you have almost 50 percent of the population on a government program, that is where the actual problem is. Just have to cut off all the goofy spending. Government Vegas parties, fraud, long term unemployment, Solyndra programs, and the list goes on. That is where you will find the money. Spending is certainly the problem.

I forget the exact figures, but if you confiscated 100% of the wealth of those considered rich, it would fund the government for mere weeks.

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You know the problem with bad cops? They make the other 5% look bad.
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
Obumma HAS to go!! and I really am not impressed with Romney either. BUT if he is the candidate for pres. I'll have to vote for him because i sure DO NOT want this lying clown(Obumma) back in!!

A lying clown, big government leftist becomes better if he has an R after his name instead of a D? That's about 50% of the difference between the Obammunist and the cultist.

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You know the problem with bad cops? They make the other 5% look bad.
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
Open drilling
He might fight for it. Whether or not he's successful...and it really wouldn't make much difference.
Not raise corp taxes
He would before long. Short of defaulting on our national debt, our economic woes are mathematically unsolvable. He would resort to this after a while, just to keep the lights on.

Dismantle Obama care
You seem to be forgetting that ROMNEY IS THE FATHER OF SOCIALIZED MEDICINE IN AMERICA. He brought that vile beast to our shores. Sure, he says he disagrees with a couple details of Obammunist commie-care, but that's not good enough, even if you actually believe this is something other than another of his infamous flip-flops, something he'll say to get elected.
Have far less liberal advisors. [/QUOTE]

Understand this: there is far less difference between the Obammunist and Romney than you suppose. Sure, his advisers may still be to the right of Lenin, but they'll still be "so far left, they've left America."

Not a best choice for sure but anyone who claims he is no different than what we have now isn't thinking clearly.
Again, how many election cycles are yiu faux conservatives going to fall for that. You've contributed greatly to where we are today.


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xiggi

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
So your plan is to vote for no one that will get elected. That is going to solve the problem alright. Faux conservitive, so another if you dont agree with me im going to call you names post. When will people realize that is the worst way to convince someone of their point.

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garyatk

Seasoned Expediter
So your plan is to vote for no one that will get elected. That is going to solve the problem alright. Faux conservitive, so another if you dont agree with me im going to call you names post. When will people realize that is the worst way to convince someone of their point.

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So your problem here is that you might get called names, instead of electing another unconstitutional president and congress?

Go ahead... Call me anything you like... But I will sleep well knowing that I did all I could do to preserve the American dream... FREEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOM!
 

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
You seem to be forgetting that ROMNEY IS THE FATHER OF SOCIALIZED MEDICINE IN AMERICA.
I always find it mildly amusing when someone says that Romney will dismantle/repeal/whatever Obamacare, given the above fact ....

If ever there was a case of "projection" and wishful thinking that's gotta be it ....

What is far more likely to happen is that Romney would advocate/endorse/shepherd through some modification of Obamacare ... that would ultimately end up being a form of crony-capitalism, supposedly being done under the auspices of the "free market", thereby enriching his friends and those he's beholden to ....

Of course, it would be done all under the rubric of "doing away with Obamacare" .... so that makes it groovy ...... :rolleyes:
 

xiggi

Veteran Expediter
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In the current state I would guess no one inluding rp could dismantle oc. I think that would take having the house and senate behind you. I do see a difference between inacting it on a state versus federal level. One sucks within the rules the other sucks outside them from my basic understanding of things.

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RLENT

Veteran Expediter
In the current state I would guess no one inluding rp could dismantle oc.
It's true enough that it is not a single person job for anyone.

I think that would take having the house and senate behind you.
Get the American people behind you and the House and Senate will follow ....

I do see a difference between inacting it on a state versus federal level. One sucks within the rules the other sucks outside them from my basic understanding of things.
That's my understanding .... and largely how I see it as well ....

Regardless of whether it's inside or outside of the "rules", it's still socialism ...
 

aristotle

Veteran Expediter
We hold great hope the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Obamacare. Their decision will be announced in June. With the Supremes making the call, Congress is off the hook. Moreover, if SCOTUS strikes down Obamacare, then Romney doesn't have to act on this matter.

I am curious why our libertarian friends rake other GOP candidates over the coals while almost never mentioning Obama or his policies. Their near silence on Obama highlights the ruse of Ron Paul running on the GOP ticket. It seems they have no over-riding desire to defeat Obama as their sole interest rests elsewhere. I expect a good number of RP supporters to vote for Obama as an act of spite. Ron Paul or not at all? I can't even begin to explain how destructive that thinking is.
 

muttly

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
We hold great hope the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Obamacare. Their decision will be announced in June. With the Supremes making the call, Congress is off the hook. Moreover, if SCOTUS strikes down Obamacare, then Romney doesn't have to act on this matter.

I am curious why our libertarian friends rake other GOP candidates over the coals while almost never mentioning Obama or his policies. Their near silence on Obama highlights the ruse of Ron Paul running on the GOP ticket. It seems they have no over-riding desire to defeat Obama as their sole interest rests elsewhere. I expect a good number of RP supporters to vote for Obama as an act of spite. Ron Paul or not at all? I can't even begin to explain how destructive that thinking is.

My guess is a good number of the RP supporters are guided primarily by their "anti neocon " ferver. Everything else is secondary including defeating Obama.
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Originally Posted by xiggi
I do see a difference between inacting it on a state versus federal level. One sucks within the rules the other sucks outside them from my basic understanding of things.



That's my understanding .... and largely how I see it as well ....

RLent wrote:

Regardless of whether it's inside or outside of the "rules", it's still socialism ...

Yeap, still socialism, but on the state level, one can move out of the state, which state does one move to to avoid the Federal Manate?
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
Get the American people behind you and the House and Senate will follow .....

Following one of the few victories the American people had in calling their representatives and demeaning the scuttling of proposed legislation, one representative said of the people's anger, "When we feel the heat, we see the light."

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