guido4475
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I have to say to be impressed with how youre van is an understatement.It ran so nice and smooth, so quiet.The advantages of proper maintenance and an inline 5 cylinder engine.
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I have to say to be impressed with how youre van is an understatement.It ran so nice and smooth, so quiet.The advantages of proper maintenance and an inline 5 cylinder engine.
guido4475
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As far as I know,The Ford 1-ton, E-350, extended or not, diesel or gas is 9,400 # gvw.
CharlesD
Expert Expediter
And if it weighs in the vicinity of 6000 lbs empty with you and all your stuff in it, that leaves a bit less than 4500 lbs for cargo, more like 3500 if you're lucky.
Which brings me to my other beef, van guys who will regularly take overweight loads at cargo van rates. For one, it's not legal. I know that a lot of van people think the rules don't apply to us, but this one is just common sense. Is it really best to be overloading a vehicle consistently? I don't even put as much in my Sprinter as I'm allowed to legally, but I know a lot of people who will gladly load one down with 4000 lbs without a second thought.
Of course what happens is that a lot of the brokers, and even some carriers, want to pay van rates on anything that will physically fit through the doors of a cargo van, even if it's too heavy. The other day I was seeing a 4200 lb load in the vicinity of one of my straight trucks and I contacted the broker to book it. When I quoted my price he thought I was nuts. He kept saying that it was only a cargo van load and I kept insisting that at that weight it was a straight truck load. That conversation went nowhere.
I see that as well....these people think it is good business..
In the long run/big picture it is not...it is selfish, and dangerous, and costly in the end...these are usually the ones whinning about changing brakes at 60k and trannys at 150K and blaming the van maker..because they are just that STUPID!!
Harsh? you ain't seen harsh yet pal....
There is nothing business about these types of vultures....Sometimes I wish we did scale just to rid ourselves of these..El Stupidos'
There is nothing business about these types of vultures....Sometimes I wish we did scale just to rid ourselves of these..El Stupidos'
I'm wondering where he came up with that number as well. Mine was $2400. That was the price for a rebuilt replacement from Ford with a 12,000 mile warranty. The shop I went to rebuilt it themselves for the same price and gave me a 6 month warranty. They also put in a shift kit that improved the shifts. That rebuild has gone 500k so far.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
OK....
I ran across an add for a box truck a while ago - don't remember where I saw it (think truck paper). I talked to the owner for about an hour over the truck and the business.
It was for a box truck, 15 feet Unicell flat floor duallys. The GVW states in the ad was 10k, the guy claimed that he hauled for an unnamed company (BIG ONE) and could haul up to 4000lbs.
I had someone at his company pull some of the load weights and sure enough a lot of them were 3200 to 3600 lbs.
A few weeks ago I had ran across a load perfect for my truck, 4000lbs but would fit snuggly into a cv. I had a bid submitted, waited and lost the bid. I later got a load out of the same company at 8000lbs. I had to ask what got the load, a truck or a van? The shipper told me it was a van and even gave me the rate - 1.65 a mile all inclusive.
I ran across an add for a box truck a while ago - don't remember where I saw it (think truck paper). I talked to the owner for about an hour over the truck and the business.
It was for a box truck, 15 feet Unicell flat floor duallys. The GVW states in the ad was 10k, the guy claimed that he hauled for an unnamed company (BIG ONE) and could haul up to 4000lbs.
I had someone at his company pull some of the load weights and sure enough a lot of them were 3200 to 3600 lbs.
A few weeks ago I had ran across a load perfect for my truck, 4000lbs but would fit snuggly into a cv. I had a bid submitted, waited and lost the bid. I later got a load out of the same company at 8000lbs. I had to ask what got the load, a truck or a van? The shipper told me it was a van and even gave me the rate - 1.65 a mile all inclusive.
If the Vanner's are hauling over their weight limit, doesn't the problem start with the company they haul for?. Your Company knows or should know what you can legally carry.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
isn't this one reason why they regulate the carriers?
Part of the problem no one witnesses the weighing of the van....it could be empty of possessions, near empty tank and the driver gets out....who's to know?
I understand the Vehicle may be on empty with no personal effects. The weight ticket has a place to be checked if the driver is not in the weighed vehicle, and there may be some 300 lb van drivers. But I still think we are probably only talking about 500 lbs at tops. Not going from 3100 to 4500 lbs. My E 350 weighed in at 6,960 with just about a full tank myself and the dogs. So I'm good for only about 3200lbs. There is a weight difference between the gas & Diesel engines, but I have no idea what it is.
Deville
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That's the going price around here for a rebuild. They are pretty straight forward to work on.
New engine I don't know. Most guys would get them out of a junker. Even the 350 is fairly straight forward to work on.
Deville
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Think outside the box as far as what? Outside of fuel cost's which the no one denys the Sprinter is much better than the Ford, Ford vans are much easier & cheaper to work on. That's assuming there is a prolbem.
Deville
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As i'm reading this thread I see everyone complaing about me carrying 4500 pds in my Van. That was ONE time thing. I was using that ONE time as an example of how much the e-350 could handle. I've never come close to that number ever again.
What made that particular load even worse was that it had to be hand unloaded without a ramp, which really sucked. After that day I told the company I was running for that these loads had to be taken on a straight trck & I would be more than happy to do it for them, they had my price sheet.
The dispatcher/owner told me that his other guy with a sprinter (single axle) never had an issue doing that load. So obviously I told him as nicely as possible he should get him to do it. I don't do too much work for that company anymore. Lately when they call I give them a go away price.
The prolbem with that company was he pretty much had guys working there that spoke very little english & did not know any better, so they are gonna run what they are told to run regardless of safety.
Another example, was last summer. This company was a local messenger company, so these runs were all short, multiple stops, messenger work etc... one of there bigger accounts was a plumbing company, they had a 22ft ladder that needed to be sent to a job sight, Dispatcher/owner calls me asks me if I could do it. I told him I don't have a ladder rack. He says no prolbem there gonna strap it tp your roof. Wait? WHAT? Slow down there, that's just not gonna happen. He was annoyed, but hey man whatever there was no way I was gonna do that. We put it on a my straight truck & away I went SAFELY.
What made that particular load even worse was that it had to be hand unloaded without a ramp, which really sucked. After that day I told the company I was running for that these loads had to be taken on a straight trck & I would be more than happy to do it for them, they had my price sheet.
The dispatcher/owner told me that his other guy with a sprinter (single axle) never had an issue doing that load. So obviously I told him as nicely as possible he should get him to do it. I don't do too much work for that company anymore. Lately when they call I give them a go away price.
The prolbem with that company was he pretty much had guys working there that spoke very little english & did not know any better, so they are gonna run what they are told to run regardless of safety.
Another example, was last summer. This company was a local messenger company, so these runs were all short, multiple stops, messenger work etc... one of there bigger accounts was a plumbing company, they had a 22ft ladder that needed to be sent to a job sight, Dispatcher/owner calls me asks me if I could do it. I told him I don't have a ladder rack. He says no prolbem there gonna strap it tp your roof. Wait? WHAT? Slow down there, that's just not gonna happen. He was annoyed, but hey man whatever there was no way I was gonna do that. We put it on a my straight truck & away I went SAFELY.
aileron
Expert Expediter
Even though a Ford van might be cheaper to fix, I saved over $20000 in fuel cost since I bought my sprinter compared to a Ford gasser. So, even if my engine and transmission go bad, which shouldn't any time soon, and have to replace them both, in the end my sprinter would have saved me money. That is the thinking outside the box. You think that the Ford is cheaper to fix, but you end up paying more to operate the vehicle. To each their own...
My E 350 weighed in at 6,960 with just about a full tank myself and the dogs. So I'm good for only about 3200lbs.
If the GVWR for a Ford E-350 is 9400# and you subtract the actual weight of the van with dogs, 6,960#, your legal load capacity is 2,440#.
According to the plate on my door pillar the gross vehicle weight is 10,134. Minus 6,960 leave 3,174 lbs.
you sure? that would make you logable and scalable?
I am assuming that GAWR stand for G gross A axle W weight. I have no idea what the R stands for. If I am correct. It say's GAWR front Axle 4050 lbs Rear axle 6084 lbs
my math skills are humble to say the least, but to me it comes out to 10,134
P.S. Googled GAWR the R stands for Rating
my math skills are humble to say the least, but to me it comes out to 10,134
P.S. Googled GAWR the R stands for Rating
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