Rlent, you say I quote Jack Nickolson, what are you talking about ???,
Nicholson played Jessup:
Jessep: "You want answers?"
Kaffee: "I want the truth!"
Jessep: "You can't handle the truth! Son, we live in a world that has walls. And those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg?"
..... from
A Few Good Men, written by Aaron Sorkin
There was another quote in reply to me, earlier in the thread by someone else, from this fictional story.
The story is a juxtaposition of militarism vs. the rule of law - and which IMHO, to some extent,
glorifies militarism - although Jessup, who portrayed the
lawlessness of that militarism, is ultimately seen
for the criminal that he was, willing to subvert the rule of law, for what he considered to be justifiable ends (security)
One should not construe from the statement immediately above, that I view all all military personnel and military activities as criminal - I don't - indeed, I recognize that sometimes such actions are necessary to ensure the survival of a people, a nation ....
when threatened.
However having said that, I also think that Justice Robert H. Jackson, former Attorney General of the United States, Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, and the chief United States prosecutor at the Nuremberg Trials might have been onto something:
"If certain acts of violation of treaties are crimes, they are crimes whether the United States does them or whether Germany does them, and we are not prepared to lay down a rule of criminal conduct against others which we would not be willing to have invoked against us."
And:
"If we can cultivate in the world the idea that aggressive war-making is the way to the prisoner's dock rather than the way to honors, we will have accomplished something toward making the peace more secure."
If you read the posting between Layout and my self and what you wrote we are close in agreement,
Yup - I actually think that's a fair assessment of it - it's actually hard for me to believe
that it could possibly be otherwise, given you and Layout's apparent backgrounds.
we look at thinks from a military viewpoint you on the other hand look at the situation as a citizen as you should.
Which is understandable, on both counts.
One however must keep firmly in mind
which body is senior to the other, under our polity, our system of government.