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That also....
Do you actually believe this? Who exactly do you believe "the Democrats" are? You speak of them as a group. What are the defining characteristics of that group?
Perhaps your perceptive abilities are superior to mine. I was uncertain about what Turtle meant, so I asked.
Considered by whom? What person or entity do you mean? What person or entity considers Fox News to be too far-right leaning to be safe for Democrats to watch?
I agree with you, I can only take so much of Fox news and the way they report the news, its exactly what you said about MSNBC and CNN, everyone lies to push their particular narrative.
And yes, you are right, the Republicans are going to take back THEIR country, by votes or bullets. I see it coming too.
I don't think this discussion about coded language will lead anywhere productive. If a code exists, the only people who can understand it are those who know the key. Arguing about what was meant or not meant without the key seems pointless to me.
No, it's not a "stupid" comment. Maybe factually inaccurate, if every sentence is getting fact-checked now.What a stupid comment...
The Republican party didn't exist until years later.
Republican Party founded | March 20, 1854 | HISTORY
In Ripon, Wisconsin, former members of the Whig Party meet to establish a new party to oppose the spread of slavery into the western territories. The Whig Party, which was formed in 1834 to oppose the “tyranny” of President Andrew Jackson, had shown itself incapable of coping with the national...www.history.com
This "stupid" thing seems to be a recurring theme directed towards those who disagree with liberal positions.
I am not a Republican (or a Democrat). When the Republicans take back "THEIR country," as you foresee, will it still be my country too?
I just had to scroll back to the top of the screen to help me remember this thread was about covid-19.
What I found interesting in the comment was the writer's present-day identification with the people who threw tea into the harbor and his casting those rebels in the same light as Republicans today. He said:
I'm curious to know more about the Republicans are that he refers to. The present-day people I know who identify as Republicans (and register as Republicans on the voter roles) include pro-Trump people, anti-Trump people and people who care more about their party than they care about Trump. Living in the red state and county I do, I interact with a lot of Republicans. Some are angry and some are not.
RLENT
Veteran Expediter
I think it already has lead somewhere productive.
But as you suggest, no need to beat a dead horse at this point.
No argument from me about what was actually meant.
Good point. And point taken.
Nope, your opinion like mine will mean nothing, they know whats right and everyone else will just have to deal with it.
Maybe it was "peaceful protesters". After all, they didn't burn the ship.
RLENT
Veteran Expediter
Not really, at least not in the traditional context of of the Mainstream Mass Media. In the strictest sense, mass media is any media that reaches a plurality of receivers, meaning 2 or more people. In that sense, anyone with a YouTube channel would be mass media. Anyone with a Twitter account is mass media. Alex Jones is mass media. But most people, myself included, use the term "mass media" and "mainstream media" interchangeably, even though there is a difference, of you need to make the distinction for some reason.
The real, practical distinction is between "mainstream media" (MSM) (or "mass media") and the "alternative media."
MSM both reflects and molds public opinion of the masses. Alternative media does the same thing, but only with a much smaller segment of the population. In that sense and context, Fox News would be Alternative Media. While Fox News has quite an impact with conservative viewers (and the Nielsen Ratings show a lot more democrats are watching Fox than most are willing to be comfortable with lol), Fox is tiny compared to the reach and impact of, say, NBC News.
Wikipedia has good entries for both Mainstream Media and Mass Media.
A lot of people think their opinions are their own. They don't realize or believe that their opinions are given to them by the news they consume. It happens with all news, of course, but is most prevalent with the opinion-molding influence of the MSM. So that's something to be aware of, so you can better try and form your own opinions.
Some might consider Fox News to be a part of the MSM, and currently it's probably a toss up. I still don't consider them to be in the mainstream because, one, they're on cable, and, two, they don't yet have the ability to form and mold the opinions of the masses. Five, six years ago, the Big Three Broadcast Networks would rake in 8-9 million viewers a night for the nightly news, while Fox News would take in about 1.5 million. So you had 25 million or more getting their news from broadcast, and less than 10% of that with Fox. But in 2021 broadcast news was about 5 million each and Fox is up to about 3.5 million. In total that's 15 million to 3.5 million, so Fox News is getting closer to 25% of viewership. That's significant. I don't think someone would necessarily be incorrect in lumping Fox News on with the mainstream media at this point. I just don't think they yet have the kinds of influence on the masses that the traditional MSM does.
You've repeatedly demonstrated yourself to be the worst.mindreader.ever. and the most.pedantic.person.to.ever.engage.in.a.conversation. Why keep on doing it? It doesn't add anything to the conversation or to the forums.
RLENT
Veteran Expediter
Except that in the case we're discussing here, I knew exactly what you actually meant.
Nonetheless, it served to illustrate a point.
I don't think I can honestly lay claim to that title.
Well, it seemed to engender some further conversation ...
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