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RLENT

RLENT

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dieseldiva said:
...I'd just like to know the truth, that's all, just the truth.
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layoutshooter said:
Who decides who "needs" to see it? The "People" are the ultimate power in this country. The president and the congress are EMPLOYEE's of the PEOPLE. That Putz HAS to answer to his employers. Those bums in Washington have forgotten just who is in charge in this country and it ain't them!!!
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"We interrupt our normal program for this public service page ...... is Julian Assange anywhere in the house ?"

"If so please call 411, it appears we are in need of some transparency ....."
 
layoutshooter

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
RLENT said:
"We interrupt our normal program for this public service page ...... is Julian Assange anywhere in the house ?"

"If so please call 411, it appears we are in need of some transparency ....."
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Obama is not a "clear person" so I don't expect transparency from him. His is a career politician. That should cover it.
 
greg334

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Oilerman1957 said:
So then medicare and SS are also illegal?
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Yeah actually it is in the real sense as the constitution was intended to work. It is forcing the individual to deal with a mandate through a payroll tax. The amendment that allows the direct taxation of the individual has been used to justify these taxes.

There have been three cases in front of the supreme court near the time it was enacted, two of them were based on the unemployment funding and one was based on lost profits of a stock holder. There is a bit of issue with how some of the decision was reached, some of the judges too into consideration the economic times the country was facing, and not just a constitutional position.

The most significant case after those three was the one in 1960 where we are told there is no one has any legal right to Social Security benefits. This has been the position of the feds since this decision has been handed down and has not been or will ever be addressed. If I'm not entitled to any benefits based on the decision, I should not be forced to pay into it or forced to take Medicare insurance.

There are two other cases, one has to do with due process for claims made by individuals and the other has to do with spousal claims to deceased payers.

Regardless, the social security system forces one to pay and then get locked into a system that wasn't intended to be an insurance or full time benefit program. It was a supplemental insurance system that should have been strictly voluntary for participation.
 
layoutshooter

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
Oilerman1957 said:
To bad they didnt put term limits on congress in the constitution.
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We have NO need for term limits. WE the People have the POWER to vote all those bums out. MANY found that out last November. All of this mess is 100% OUR fault. WE have allowed them to take away our power. WE must claim it back. VOTE ALL THE BUMS OUT!
 
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Oilerman1957

Expert Expediter
greg334 said:
Yeah actually it is in the real sense as the constitution was intended to work. It is forcing the individual to deal with a mandate through a payroll tax. The amendment that allows the direct taxation of the individual has been used to justify these taxes.

There have been three cases in front of the supreme court near the time it was enacted, two of them were based on the unemployment funding and one was based on lost profits of a stock holder. There is a bit of issue with how some of the decision was reached, some of the judges too into consideration the economic times the country was facing, and not just a constitutional position.

The most significant case after those three was the one in 1960 where we are told there is no one has any legal right to Social Security benefits. This has been the position of the feds since this decision has been handed down and has not been or will ever be addressed. If I'm not entitled to any benefits based on the decision, I should not be forced to pay into it or forced to take Medicare insurance.

There are two other cases, one has to do with due process for claims made by individuals and the other has to do with spousal claims to deceased payers.

Regardless, the social security system forces one to pay and then get locked into a system that wasn't intended to be an insurance or full time benefit program. It was a supplemental insurance system that should have been strictly voluntary for participation.
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Dang Greg, so much knowledge, so little time, you are good.
 
dieseldiva

dieseldiva

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All of that discussion yesterday over Obama's birth certificate and we forgot that THIS GUY is saying that he'll be taking care of the issue for his buddy. :rolleyes:

Sounds to me like it might be better to just let sleeping dogs lie and move on.
 
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