Another Brilliant Panther Move

hondaking38

Veteran Expediter
wow this one takes the cake....i was 2nd out then at 8pm last nite i was 5th. so i jumped back on the pc...and noticed there was no first outs that came in.....so i called drivers relations, and miss snippy stated i was last out because my acceptance rating was 77 %..i said whats that got to do with anything...she stated people with higher acceptance ratings get a lower board number.....so today i look at the board and yepp i am now 6th.....so lets see board pos dont meant crapp...1st outs dont mean crapp..its all about your acceptance ratings.....get 5 loads offers a month and turn one down and and at 80% acceptance you had better be the only one there...doesnt matter that they wanted you to deadhead 200 miles unpaid for a 100 mile load...doesnt matter that its a 100 mile load that pickes up on a friday and delivers on a monday....have fun with that crapp, this cats outta the box soon.
 

Nadal

Seasoned Expediter
I just can't belive it....Tomorrow they gonna put us in order of our age, or color of the vehicle...If this is true why we can not see the other trucks acceptence %??? Did you change your status on qualcomm ,because one week ago I changed the status (I put out of truck on pager) and the system put me on the back of the list....:confused:
 

Slo-Ride

Veteran Expediter
wow this one takes the cake. miss snippy stated

have fun with that crapp, this cats outta the box soon.

Someone needs to volite her,just they like do to our log books.
I think its crap like this is why drivers drag up so often and move elsewhere. its the same everywhere rotataion doesnt mean anything to ppl like her.


I say hang in there bro,,kinda bad time to jump around,,
if ya get the word out drivers can and will have revenge on her soon or later..(or should have)
 

TonyG

Seasoned Expediter
one week ago I changed the status (I put out of truck on pager) and the system put me on the back of the list....:confused:

I was told if you need to change your status call it in, don't do it over qc because it could change your position.

I have never heard of board position due to acceptance rates, I would call & talk to a team leader.
 

hondaking38

Veteran Expediter
no change in status...they said a fleet message will come out soon, meaning the next couple days of the implimentation of it....ohh well....something most will adjust to i guess...next thing you no,i will have to fill out a request form to take a few days off...SORRY NOT HAPPENING
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
I believe the number I heard was 67 percent rather than 77 percent. Not that I agree with it, but if you are under that number consistently, you probably aren't making anything anyways.
 

aileron

Expert Expediter
I cannot believe what I am seeing here. I wonder what 'no forced dispatch' means any more. We don't force you to take this load, but if you don't your next offer comes your way next week. Tri-state's 8 hours out of service for a refusal looks like nothing compared to this.
 

Humble2drive

Expert Expediter
I believe the number I heard was 67 percent rather than 77 percent. Not that I agree with it, but if you are under that number consistently, you probably aren't making anything anyways.

Hi Dave,
Hope you don't mind me butting in on your Panther thread.
The opposite is true with many top teams in FECC. The lower acceptance rates equate to a better per mile and overall revenue. Why is this different with Panther? I am not opposed to a future at Panther, but things like this can be troubling.
 

termite289

Expert Expediter
ummm, how are we supposed to get our acceptance % up, if we are constantly bumped down on the list for offers?
 

Yesteryear

Expert Expediter
I cannot believe what I am seeing here. I wonder what 'no forced dispatch' means any more. We don't force you to take this load, but if you don't your next offer comes your way next week. Tri-state's 8 hours out of service for a refusal looks like nothing compared to this.


Tri-State is no longer 8 hrs refusal status. They changed it to a 4 hour refusal status back when they lowered the mile rate to 1.05. But. . . just because your on 4 hour refusal status dosen't mean your 'out of service'. You will still get a load if one comes available and you are the only truck there. What 'out of service' means is if your #1 on the board and another truck comes on the board while your in refusal status the other truck gets the #1 position and you fall to #2. So everytime a truck comes in while your on refusal you drop beneath that truck. I think we have been on refusal status 4 times in the past 2 years that we have driven for Tri-State. Most times if it is under 8 hours to the pick up, not more then 30% miles to the pick-up, and over 250 miles (which makes it a legitimate load offer) we will take it regardless if we want to or not. Exceptions, it is putting us in a really bad position that is going to cost the truck owner money. We try to do what is best for us, the truck owner and at the same time T-State. It can really be difficult to judge at times.

We have to remember the carriers position also, if a carrier doesn't book the smaller loads from a company why should that company give them the longer loads?
 

whitewolf

Seasoned Expediter
I cannot believe what I am seeing here. I wonder what 'no forced dispatch' means any more. We don't force you to take this load, but if you don't your next offer comes your way next week. Tri-state's 8 hours out of service for a refusal looks like nothing compared to this.

Now is 4 hrs out of service for a refusal
 

Twizted1

Seasoned Expediter
Dave is correct its 67%,bcos thats exactly what happened to me last week.I sat in chicago 1st out all day bcos my acceptance rating was less than 67%.I usuall dont turn down a load unless its just not profitable to do. loads that have more dead head then loaded miles,or the ones where your truck becomes a rolling storage for a few days,with no layover given.I have been getting more and more crap like this.Panther says its to keep me moving NO THANKYOU.They really dont care about the drivers,theres just to many trucks and not enough freight
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
I don't see anything wrong with outside observation. It would be different at Panther because they drop you to the bottom of the board, which is what they used to do.
Our situation is different because refusals are tied to something being offered at your rate. Doesn't mean it would be a profitable run though. Unless they changed, they send you guys anything. Some good, some not so good.
They are two different types of systems.
For us it is business as usual. If we don't like something, we can find our own run. And of course those count so our percentages are still pretty decent. Can't get a refusal on my own booked load.
 
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Yesteryear

Expert Expediter
I don't see anything wrong with outside observation. It would be different at Panther because they drop you to the bottom of the board, which is what they used to do.
Our situation is different because refusals are tied to something being offered at your rate. Doesn't mean it would be a profitable run though. Unless they changed, they send you guys anything. Some good, some not so good.
They are two different types of systems.
For us it is business as usual. If we don't like something, we can find our own run. And of course those count so our percentages are still pretty decent. Can't get a refusal on my own booked load.

Don't understand your post Davekc?
 

Falligator

Expert Expediter
Ok...so yesterday I am sittin here in Salem....Panther calls 0130 for 0300 p/u. Load is paying only .65 How are we supposed to run on that kind of crap? I had a pretty good week last week, but if I remember my contract states that I make the .77 per mile. not .65 Well I made sure that one didn't go against my acceptance rating or I'd be sitting at number 17 on the Cleveland board.
 

hondaking38

Veteran Expediter
got my position #2 back, qc clearly stated 67% and i was 77% of course 4 loads went out yesterday but oh well, at least i am not at the bottom....if you are under this you wont move up, so how ya goona get rating back up if no loads come your way?? go to a isolated board where you are the only one there????
 

mjolnir131

Veteran Expediter
got my position #2 back, qc clearly stated 67% and i was 77% of course 4 loads went out yesterday but oh well, at least i am not at the bottom....if you are under this you wont move up, so how ya goona get rating back up if no loads come your way?? go to a isolated board where you are the only one there????

that has always been one of the fastest place to get loaded anyways.
 

mjolnir131

Veteran Expediter
Ok...so yesterday I am sittin here in Salem....Panther calls 0130 for 0300 p/u. Load is paying only .65 How are we supposed to run on that kind of crap? I had a pretty good week last week, but if I remember my contract states that I make the .77 per mile. not .65 Well I made sure that one didn't go against my acceptance rating or I'd be sitting at number 17 on the Cleveland board.

Well since below rate does not effect you acceptance numbers it would have no effect
 

wellarmed

Not a Member
If you use load acceptance average to position your trucks, it seems you would really have to do some homework so as to not crucify a driver for trying to make good business decisions. Example:Two trucks at any particular carrier accept every load offered to them and at the end of the week one has 5000mi. the other only 2500mi. Does that not mean that the truck with 2500mi. could have increased his miles by making a responsible business decision of refusing a shorter load to possibly get something a little longer and if he does this why should it be held against him in the way this new "Business decision"of the carrier is doing. It just seems there should be some considerations in how or why this cotractor refused each load to put him in this low % rating. Piont being some could have lower % ratings do to being offered less desirable loads to begin with. That could make this new rule very unfair.:cool:
 
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