A Striking Contrast Among Motor Carriers

ATeam

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Retired Expediter
Diane and I were at Landstar headquarters in Jacksonville, FL yesterday to complete some refresher training that is required every two years. We were one of over two-dozen teams in the room. It was a large class of over 50 people. We've been through this training before. The materials were good and the instructor delivered the training in her usual high-quality fashion.

Truck parking is provided on the property, in a grassy area a few hundred yards from the building. We do not go there often. Having parked there a couple times before but never overnight, we called ahead to ask if it would be OK to spend the night. "Of course you can!" was the answer.

The day began as usual for a Landstar BCO (contractor) who enters the building; a white, high-rise building surrounded on three sides by a golf course and graced with Florida palm trees and flower gardens. If they know you are coming, there is a name badge waiting for you. The security officer at the door lets you in and you have freedom to go where you want as long as you are wearing your badge (everyone who works there wears a badge).

During a break in our training day, a fellow BCO brought it to my attention that Diane and I should have a blue card in our truck that makes things easier on the New York Thruway. I did not understand what he was talking about, but at his urging, I went quickly up to the second floor to make the request for a card from the woman whose name he gave me.

The need to move quickly rose because the end of the business day was near. The people upstairs would leave soon and I needed to move fast to catch them at their desks. There was a brand-new team sitting next to us in the room so I took their truck number with me to get them a card too. Diane paid attention in class for both of us while I was gone.

The large-area second floor was set up as many modern office buildings are these days. A great many cubes are set up in the center and a number of private offices ring the outside walls. The office walls that face the interior are made of glass.

Being unfamiliar with the department I was trying to find, I asked for help from someone and received it immediately. A moment later I was standing beside the cube of the woman to whom I had been directed. She was on the phone, deep in conversation and focused on her screen and did not realize I was there. Feeling no rush to get back to class, I was content to wait and did nothing to attract her attention.

About two minutes went by and a woman in one of the glass offices came out to greet me. "Are you here to see ____?" she asked.

"Yes." I answered.

"I'm sorry that she's on the phone, can I help you with something?"

"Well, I don't know, maybe. I'm here to get a blue card for the New York Thruway."

"Yes. What's your truck number?"

As I handed her a little Post-It note with two truck numbers written on it, I said, "I'm here for ourselves and one other team."

She said nothing and went to a file cabinet to dig out cards and paperwork. By that time, a woman in another nearby cube, was off her telephone call. The office woman told her "Bring up the ________ screen." These cards are truck specific and info needed to be entered in. While the first woman continued her phone call, still unaware of what was going on around her, the other two continued their work to get me the cards.

Moments later, that call was completed. Learning what was up, she jumped in to complete the process.

The office woman then said to me, "Are you _____?"

"Nope."

"This truck number is familiar ... something about an incident with a Florida trooper."

"Oh yeah, they told me about that. I don't know the details but it has something to do with how the truck was lettered and the registration displayed while they were driving from Florida to orientation in Rockford. They got a ticket from a trooper who insisted he was right and Landstar is insisting that the instructions they provided are right."

"Yes, that's right. The fine has already been paid by Landstar. That paperwork is here because I will be calling Tallahassee (the state capitol) to have the ticket removed and his record cleared."

The blue-card work was then complete. They were packaged with the accompanying paperwork into envelopes, one for each truck, and I was sent on my way. At that point the three woman were standing together, all smiling at me as I left.

"Thank you for getting up out of your chair," I said to the office woman. That comment brought loud laughs out of the other two. And then I added, "That's what makes Landstar, Landstar."

"That's right!" the office woman said and the other two said "yes" at the same time.

It was an interesting and pleasing site. The three of them stood there together, counting this episode as one of the day's little victories because they had quickly and successfully served a BCO. Seemingly appreciative of the feedback, they beamed with obvious pride at having done so.

Another remarkable part of the day was the drop-in visit by the company president. The honcho of this 8,800-BCO company took the time to thank us for the "heavy lifting" we do for the company every day. And he shared a bit about the challenges of the day and what Landstar is doing to address them.

Another remarkable part of the day was when the main instructor turned the class over to the next person who came in to teach. Before leaving, she had us hide our name badges and then went around the room and correctly named every person in the room. Diane and I last saw her two years ago but, this day, she was able to address us and everyone else in the room by name. In the morning, as we gathered in the cafeteria before class, she was there too, addressing almost everyone in our group by name.

A lot of information was presented to Diane and me that day. We also were able to catch up with BCO's we knew and meet and visit with new ones. With much to think about and remember from that day, I woke up the next morning thinking about the profound difference between Landstar's attitude toward its BCO's and our former carrier's attitude toward its contractors.

At our former carrier, overnight truck parking is prohibited. The president never visited any class we attended. We were not allowed to go anywhere in the building where employees were seated without an escort, and then, if we wanted to use the bathroom, the escort would stand outside and wait. If you had an issue or request, like for a blue turnpike card, it was impossible to approach anyone about it without an escort, and almost always, by phone or in person, you could not get to the right person without going through another person first.

It does not have to be that way, and I post this to goad the decision makers at our former carrier to think about that. Diane and I are the same human beings and trucking professionals at Landstar as we were at our former carrier. We bring the same skills to the table and do the same work.

There is no good reason on earth why contractors should be treated with the respect and dignity that Landstar so eagerly provides while our former carrier, seemingly by design, withholds the same.
 
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zorry

Veteran Expediter
Yeah Former Carrier*, how'd you ever get to where you are today with the way you treated Phil ?

We're ok. We'll get by.

Has Phil decided not to pull the plug by July 1st ?

The world awaits the announcement.

* named edited out to protect the innocent.
 
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xiggi

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Owner/Operator
I have to agree its nice not to be treated like a potential felon or a red headed step child.

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zorry

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I reread the first post.

And I thank you Phil for trying to help make your former carrier better.
 

paullud

Veteran Expediter
I always wondered why so many companies in the freight industry seem to setup an adversarial relationship with the drivers. It seems you would want as many people as you can get working as a team. If everyone is working together you have happier workers, if they are working towards one goal it will be accomplished.

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zorry

Veteran Expediter
I was working at Watkins when an employee shot two co-workers.

Many carriers, particularly those that handle high value, sensitive security items, don't allow total access to drivers.

I've never felt offended, but I'm not as sensitive as some.
 
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xiggi

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Owner/Operator
I was working at Watkins when an employee shoot two co-workers.

Many carriers, particularly those that handle high value, sensitive security items, don't allow total access to drivers.

I've never felt offended, but I'm not as sensitive as some.

It has nothing to do with sensitivity that's ridicolous to even make that statement. Are you trying to say land star doesn't hall high value high security loads? I don't think that dog plays.

Many carriers don't allow it your correct buy how in any stretch of the imagination does that make it a good thing.

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LDB

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Retired Expediter
I've been told there is a city ordinance against overnight parking so it's impossible even if they wanted to allow it. Now, the part about escorts etc. is correct. I believe it's based on threats to individuals and the company as a whole. It would be nice if they could relax things for the benefit of the good contractors. It would be nice to be able to get to the cafeteria whenever you wanted to. That could be accomplished with a modest remodeling and still keep the rest of the security in place if they couldn't just allow contractors access.

Now, it seems as if there's at least some suggestion that Landstar is good and the unnamed former carrier is bad due to the security restrictions. If that's so, then there is at least one other major carrier that is also "bad", locking contractors out of every area except for a small driver area and requiring an escort to go anywhere else or meet any employees.
 

xiggi

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Owner/Operator
I'm sure the fed has no power or connections to get an ordinance changed. :rolleyes:

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zorry

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Do you think any BCO can walk around an area where they set up multi-million dollar shipments ?
As a shipper I would be uneasy to see drivers and others walking around at will.

The former carrier is much different. LEA may be more pleasant and relaxed. Maybe a laidback Fla culture.

The FORMER CARRIER'S approach may be more business like, more secure.

Could they open up a bit, sure. They have systems in place so that I seldom have to go to the office. I like that approach.

I don't stroke them nor do I need to be stroked.

Give me loads, the tools to do them safely, pay me. That's all I need.

After five years if I went to the office I would only recognize three or so people. Maybe nobody would recognize me.

I didn't come here to make friends. I came here to make a living, safely.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
I've been told there is a city ordinance against overnight parking so it's impossible even if they wanted to allow it.

That city ordinance thing is a bunch of crap. Yes it exists (though, has anyone ever seen a copy of it?) but it is more of a convenient excuse for people in the building than it is a reason to prohibit overnight truck parking. They allow reefer trucks to sit there all night with reefers running during TVAL testing. It's ok to let a truck park there all night but the drivers cannot occupy them. What's up with that?

The Landstar HQ, as mentioned above, is bordered on three sides by a golf course. But there is a residential area near and across the street from where the trucks are allowed to park. Landstar did not build the building like FedEx Custom Critical built theirs, but I presume (a guess on my part) that before they agreed to move into the building, they had the concern and foresight to arrange with the city whatever had to be arranged to permit truck parking in that grassy area.

When FedEx Custom Critical (our former carrier) was willing to spend millions to build a new building and bring many jobs into the city, or keep them in the city, they easily could have negoatiated the perpetual right to allow overnight truck parking on their property in this INDUSTRIAL AREA. And I have to think that if someone in the company really wanted to, they could still do so today.

City ordinance, my ***.
 
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zorry

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That city ordinance thing is a bunch of crap. Yes it exists (though, has anyone ever seen a copy of it?)

you say it exists, then you question it's existence ??

It may be an excuse. They probably could have overcome it if they saw a need.

It's really not hard to drive in at daybreak, conduct your business, and leave to a facility designed to handle your overnight needs.
 

xiggi

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Do you think any BCO can walk around an area where they set up multi-million dollar shipments ?
As a shipper I would be uneasy to see drivers and others walking around at will.

The former carrier is much different. LEA may be more pleasant and relaxed. Maybe a laidback Fla culture.

The FORMER CARRIER'S approach may be more business like, more secure.

Could they open up a bit, sure. They have systems in place so that I seldom have to go to the office. I like that approach.

I don't stroke them nor do I need to be stroked.

Give me loads, the tools to do them safely, pay me. That's all I need.

After five years if I went to the office I would only recognize three or so people. Maybe nobody would recognize me.

I didn't come here to make friends. I came here to make a living, safely.

Yea you sure can't make friends and a living at the same time.

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zorry

Veteran Expediter
When drivers make friends in an office thats when the look of preferential dispatch arises.

The idea of preferential dispatch can damage a company more than the actual act.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
Do you think any BCO can walk around an area where they set up multi-million dollar shipments ?
As a shipper I would be uneasy to see drivers and others walking around at will.

Agents dispatch Landstar freight and BCO's are welcome in most agent offices. As a shipper, I would be delighted to work with drivers who are personally familiar with the agent I call. As a BCO, I have, on occasion, engaged in three-way conversations with the agent, shipper and myself about one thing or another. Personal familiarity between the BCO's and agents enable some very professional and impressive things to happen between the shipper and Landstar.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
The idea of preferential dispatch can damage a company more than the actual act.

Preferential dispatch is exactly why we left the company. When preferential dispatch was established as policy (flat rate straight trucks dispatched ahead of percentage-paid trucks, company-owned reefer trailers being loaded ahead of percentage-paid reefer straight trucks with freight the straight trucks used to haul), we left.

Landstar is a preferential dispatch company in that the agents decide by their own criteria which trucks they will load and which they will pass over. But there, there is a profound difference in that the agents are accessible and you have the same ability every other BCO has to convince agents why you should be picked first.

And lest anyone suggest that the Landstar preferential dispatch system has a negative impact on recruiting and retention, in the room full of 25-30 teams we were in, and with that training being required once every two years, only four teams were new to the company. All others had been with the conmpany at least two years and several of them had been with the company more than two decades.
 
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zorry

Veteran Expediter
This is why we have different carriers.

Whichever one makes a person happy, that's where they need to be.

Different people have different needs.
Thank God we live in a country where we have so many great choices.
 

xiggi

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
When drivers make friends in an office thats when the look of preferential dispatch arises.

The idea of preferential dispatch can damage a company more than the actual act.

There is not a company out here that does not have preferential dispatch in some shape or form. The feds system of sending load offers to all available trucks at once breaks of creating price competition among the fleet.

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ATeam

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Retired Expediter
That city ordinance thing is a bunch of crap. Yes it exists (though, has anyone ever seen a copy of it?)

you say it exists, then you question it's existence ??

Well, if you are going to be picky, let me rephrase:

That city ordinance thing is a bunch of crap. Yes, it is said to exist, though, has anyone ever seen a copy of it?

Oh, yeah, I just remebered another difference between Landstar and our former carrier. At Landstar HQ, there is no driver's entrance. BCO's enter through the front door just like everyone else.
 
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