Will the Boy Scouts be Obama's next target for destruction?

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Liberals are howling with fury today after the Boy Scouts of America "emphatically reaffirmed" its earlier decision to ban homosexuals from participation in their organization.
After review, Boy Scouts reaffirm ban on gays | Fox News

It will be interesting to see how Obama addresses this issue. Will he have the audacity to mount a campaign against BSA?

He will try to replace them with something more to his liking, like the Hitler Youth.
 

aristotle

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He will try to replace them with something more to his liking, like the Hitler Youth.
I am inclined to think Obama is content to let proxies do the fighting on this one. Still, Obama has attacked many institutions which hold traditional American values. The United States military would never have repealed "Don't ask/Don't tell" except Obama as commander-in-chief ordained it must be done. Lackeys at the Pentagon, anxious to please their boss, fell in line.
 

BobWolf

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The Scout Law... A Scout is Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpfull, Friendly, Courtious, Kind, Obedient, Cheerfull, Thrifty, Brave, Clean and Reverant.
Wow Its been over twenty five years since I said that and I still remember it. Maby because I still try to live it even today.

That said the Boy scouts of Americia is a CHRISTIAN BASED ORGANIZATION that is why being reverant is part of the law. Read The King James version of the Bible As Acuracy counts not some watered down NIV rag. It clearly says that Homosexuality is an abomination. So I am in full support of the Boy Scouts Decision to ban those who dont want to follow a moral and spiritual compass, oh, by the way they also have to be PATRIOTIC and say the Pledge of Elegiance.
So the bottom line is, A commie liberal and A Boy Scout will mix as well as Water and granite.
Go Boy Scouts of America Go!!!
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The Scout Law... A Scout is Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpfull, Friendly, Courtious, Kind, Obedient, Cheerfull, Thrifty, Brave, Clean and Reverant.
Wow Its been over twenty five years since I said that and I still remember it. Maby because I still try to live it even today.

That said the Boy scouts of Americia is a CHRISTIAN BASED ORGANIZATION that is why being reverant is part of the law. Read The King James version of the Bible As Acuracy counts not some watered down NIV rag. It clearly says that Homosexuality is an abomination. So I am in full support of the Boy Scouts Decision to ban those who dont want to follow a moral and spiritualist compass, oh, by the way they also have to be PATRIOTIC and say the Pledge of Elegiance.
So the bottom line is, A commie liberal and A Boy Scout will mix as well as Water and granite.
Go Boy Scouts of America Go!!!
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I was a boy scout ....my dad was the scoutmaster...boy scouts was a VERY big part of my life growing up....i find this so sad.....what the hell is gay person going to do??..I DONT remember the BSA being ANY type of christian based organization ????...because if it was im sure my dad and I would have had ZERO part with them!!!!
Just because one is gay...what are they affraid of....the"gays" didling the boys???....lost alot of respect for the BSA on this one....sad.
...oh yah moral and spiritual compass....seems like all the boys are getting molested by all the preachers and church higher ups then boy scout leaders !!!!!!!!! Keep your kids safe DONT send em to church camp..
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OntarioVanMan

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The organization's legal right to have these policies has been upheld repeatedly by both state and federal courts. In Boy Scouts of America v. Dale, the Supreme Court of the United States has affirmed that as a private organization, the BSA can set its own membership standards.

The BSA's policies have been legally challenged but have not been found to constitute illegal discrimination; as a private organization in the United States the BSA has the right to freedom of association, as determined in Boy Scouts of America v. Dale.

In recent years, the policy disputes have led to litigation over the terms under which the BSA can access governmental resources including public lands.

"The Boy Scouts of America maintains that no member can grow into the best kind of citizen without recognizing an obligation to God. In the first part of the Scout Oath or Promise the member declares, ‘On my honor I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law.’ The recognition of God as the ruling and leading power in the universe and the grateful acknowledgment of His favors and blessings are necessary to the best type of citizenship and are wholesome precepts in the education of the growing members.

The BSA does not require adherence to any particular religious beliefs or ethos beyond this
 
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AMonger

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Just because one is gay...what are they affraid of....the"gays" didling the boys???....
For starters, yes. Sodomites, while committing fewer molestations than heterosexuals, molest in higher numbers proportionate to their representation in the populace. Having them around where children congregate is foolish, and should be criminal. And that brings us to your next points:
..oh yah moral and spiritual compass....
Yes, because committing :censoredsign:gotry is immoral. A sodomite should no sooner be allowed in a position where he can influence children than would an embezzler, an alcoholic, a compulsive gambler, etc.
seems like all the boys are getting molested by all the preachers and church higher ups then
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boy scout leaders !!!!!!!!!
Well, if what you're trying to say is that more molestations seem to occur around priests than scout leaders, that's true, because the BSA doesn't allow sodomite leaders. If they did, more scouts would be getting molested.

The church molestations have largely been limited to one particular denomination, one that forces their clergy to live an unnatural, celibate lifestyle, neglecting the scriptural admonition that it is bad for man to be alone (without a woman). What's going to happen there? Anybody can see where that leads, just as anybody with any sense can see where having sodomite scout leaders leads: The Sandusky shower stall.
 
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OntarioVanMan

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My God....I am going to have to agree with AMonger on this, about a certain religion that demands celibacy...
 

asjssl

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For starters, yes. Sodomites, while committing fewer molestations than heterosexuals, molest in higher numbers proportionate to their representation in the populace. Having them around where children congregate is foolish, and should be criminal. And that brings us to your next points:

Yes, because committing :censoredsign:gotry is immoral. A sodomite should no sooner be allowed in a position where he can influence children than would an embezzler, an alcoholic, a compulsive gambler, etc.
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Well, if what you're trying to say is that more molestations seem to occur around priests than scout leaders, that's true, because the BSA doesn't allow sodomite leaders. If they did, more scouts would be getting molested.

The church molestations have largely been limited to one particular denomination, one that forces their clergy to live an unnatural, celibate lifestyle, neglecting the scriptural admonition that it is bad for man to be alone (without a woman). What's going towards happen there? Anybody can see where that leads, just as anybody with any sense can see where having sodomite scout leaders leads: The Sandusky shower stall.

Ohhh you and your BS again....so a gay person is also a pediophile??...gay people are automatically going to molest....PLEASE.....








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Turtle

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I don't know how someone could be a Boy Scout for more than a week and not realize that it's a Christian-based organization. The group was founded with it's first national office in the YMCA building in NYC (Young Men's Christian Association, a firmly Protestant organization), "reverent" is part of the Scout Law, and Article III of the BSA Constitution states quite plainly, "Boy Scouts of America believes that no member can grow into the best kind of citizen without recognizing an obligation to God." Part of the Scout Oath and the Scout Law is to be morally straight and be clean in thought, word, and deed.

Scout Oath
On my honor, I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country and
To obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight

When you become a Boy Scout you take the above oath. The oath has meaning, every line of it.

Scout Law
A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and reverent.

Duty to God, morally straight, reverent. These are not secular things.

Of the Top 10 sponsoring Chartered Organizations associated with the BSA, 6 of them are religious organizations (Church of Christ of Latter Day Saints, United Methodist Church, Catholic Church, Presbyterian Church, Lutheran Church, and the Baptist Church), and the others are the PTA, other parent-teacher groups, and private school almost all of which are religious-based private schools. The Church of Christ of Latter Day Saints was the first sponsor of the BSA and still today is it's largest supporter and contributor. The United Methodist Church is a close second in terms of support and contributions.

No, they're not afraid of "gays" didling the boys. They're afraid that "gays" cannot, by definition or by deed, live up to the Scout Oath of being morally straight and clean in thought and deed.

The Boy Scouts, like all private organizations, have the constitutionally protected right under the First Amendment of freedom of association to set membership standards. What's a gay to do? Not be a Boy Scout, that's what.

Maybe they could start a Gay BSA. They'll probably have spiffier uniforms, kinda like the regular BSA uniforms, but with ski boots and a kicky beret.
 

OntarioVanMan

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I thinks it is more for the leadership roles....a boy generally at that age, most don't even know they are gay or are in denial...
 

Turtle

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True. Some know from an early age, those who don't or are in denial will tell you that in retrospect they knew from an early age, but didn't realize it. But the bottom line is, if you are a Scout you need to reconcile the Scout Oath and the Scout Law, and you have to live by that oath. They'll kick you out of Scouting if you're not trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, or reverent. If you're a mean, fat slob who only showers weekly and steals from people, you're gone.
 

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The Scouts have the right to restrict membership to whatever conditions they impose, and parents have the right to allow their children to join or not.
As AMonger noted, though, the Catholic Church has a long and strong tradition of imposing conditions that defy both human nature & sense: celibacy, abstention from family planning other than the so called rhythm method [notoriously unreliable, as are the mere humans who try to abide by it] which only force people to be hypocrites. A culture that accepts [if not encourages] hypocrisy is one in which evil can more easily exist, because nearly everyone is hiding something from public view.
My concern would be that any organization that involves interaction between children and adults is going to attract pedophiles - it's the Willie Sutton philosophy: that's where the kids are, right? And I'd rather my child were protected from pedophiles than homosexuals, because the former cause serious and long lasting damage, while the latter will cause my kids no harm, despite the contention that they're 'unnatural'. I know this much is true, no matter what the Bible says.

 

AMonger

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Ohhh you and your BS again....so a gay person is also a pediophile??...gay people are automatically going to molest....PLEASE.....
That's not at all what I said. I said that, for one, their immoral lifestyle makes them unsuitable mentors (or parents) for children, and two, that while they don't molest children in the same numbers as heterosexuals, they do molest at rates disproportionately high to their number. The last numbers with which I'm familiar said that sodomites commit 40% of child molestations, that's 2-3% of the population committing 40% of the molestations.

Any parent who would leave their child with someone known to be a sexual deviant should lose their kids.
 

AMonger

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I thinks it is more for the leadership roles....a boy generally at that age, most don't even know they are gay or are in denial...

Here's how they can tell: do they touch other boys' penises or let them touch theirs? If so, then they're gay.
 

AMonger

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And I'd rather my child were protected from pedophiles than homosexuals, because the former cause serious and long lasting damage, while the latter will cause my kids no harm, despite the contention that they're 'unnatural'. I know this much is true, no matter what the Bible says.

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Not entirely true. Know who Art Bell is? His son, since deceased, was molested by a sodomite molester, who infected him with AIDS. It sure didn't do him any good. And then there's the "HELL IS HOT" thing, for the willing participants.
 

Ragman

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I'm confused! (easy to do lately).

If Boy Scouts is a christian organization, Can somebody explain this - -

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