Why do Christian drivers...

[Streakn1]

Well at least it wasnt a complaint about a Christian wizzing in front of your wife.

Never know. Could have been one thinking he was helping out by watering the garden of eden for god!

 

[Turtle]

Christians are also sinners, we all fall short of "perfection" daily...that is why God is a "forgiving" God...

Well, at least that's why Christians hope he's a forgiving God. He doesn't forgive everybody, ya know.

 

[ShipWreck]

I have the answer:

God is great.... Beer is good.....and people are crazy!

 

[ShipWreck]

Why is it that people who are not christians want to make up the rules for the people who are? Whats up with that???? People are very flawed even christian people. I know there are a few people out there who think they aren't flawed and are perfect but they probably aren't christians even if they think they are. This is just the opinion of an old semi-retired chubby guy but I guess I'm entitled to one too.

Are you talking about democrats? J/K of course!

 

[TJ959]

I suppose some of them are Democrats but mostly I'm talking about people who have a pre-concieved opinion or notion about something but have limited experience or knowledge about it. Still, even though they don't participate, they have a need to set up the rules and standards for the other guy. In this instance, the experience sited was Southern Baptists vaues and even then one southern Baptist pastor. In my experience Baptist preachers, even southern baptist preachers, vary a good bit. Baptists in general make up a fairly small percentage of those who consider themselves Christian. Why do I have to follow the rules of southern Baptists if I'm not one? There is nothing in the Bible that says you can't have a drink or for that matter ... show me where it says you can't speed. I think you shouldn't speed but everyone has a choice and when we get to the end we get to find out how the ultimate judge thinks we did. I surely don't think he will be real pleased with me but I don't think I have the right to make that judgement myself.

In all fairness, I do believe that if you are going to have a bunch of stickers on your truck supporting any cause you should watch your behavior so as not to make you and your fellow believers look like a bunch of doofusses. I think even Democrats should do this, even though I have little recent experience or knowledge in Democrating as I have been doing a lot of Republicaning lately.

 

[witness23]

But then TJ, your post begs the question what is a Christian and who gets to decide that?

Just a suggestion, reading Romans would be a good place to answer your question.

Let me share this with everyone, from "Our Daily Bread".

A Walk Through Romans

We can summarize a walk down the roads of the book of Romans with the following observations:
1. God has extended to all men impartially an offer of salvation from their sin. His wrath against sin is justified(1:18-20), and we all stand before Him condemned (3:23). But God has made a way for us to be justified by faith (4:5).
2. Jesus Christ, the Son of God, came to earth to live the sinless life we could not live and to become the atoning sacrifice for our sins. He died for us, paying the penalty for all our iniquity (6:23). Because He did, we can be saved-not by law, but by faith (8:1-2). We trust in Him and Him alone for our salvation. It comes through a person, the God-man, not through works.
3. The Spirit dwells within the believer to bring victory over sin (8:9). The result is a practical holiness that reflects the truth of Christianity and give glory to God.

So where do these roads lead you? If you have never put your faith in Jesus, they lead you to Him. You are still dead in your sins. You are God's enemy. You need to be reconciled to God. You need to trust Jesus as your Saviour.
If you are a follower of Christ, these roads lead you to spiritual growth. If you are still dominated by sin, you need to rely on the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit. You need to accept for yourself the practical guidelins for personal holiness that appear in Romans 12-15. God will lead you to growth and victory.

The book of Romans is a masterpiece - a letter both theological and practical, philosophical and personal, God-centered and human-directed. It's a book that has earned the respect and admiration of the world.
The apostle Paul's purpose in writing the letter was not academic but spritual. He wrote to bring the believers in Rome to a deepening knowledge of God. Knowing the meaning of the following words will help us understand the book of Romans.
Adoption: the act of God by which He placed us into His family as sons and joint-heirs with Christ.
Conversion: the act by which a person, through the power of the Holy Spirit, turns in faith to Jesus Christ.
Death: separation from God (spiritual); separation of body and soul ((physical); separation from God in hell (eternal).
Faith: believing and trusting in what God has revealed about Himself regarding sin and salvation.
Glorification: the end or goal of our salvation; the act of God by which we are transformed into his likeness.
Gospel: the proclamation of God's redemptive activity in Jesus Christ on our behalf; literally "good news."
Grace: the unmerited favor of God to guilty and depraved sinners.
Impartation: the act of God by which He gives us a new nature through the Holy Spirit.
Imputation: the act of God by which the righteousness Jesus earned for us by His sinless life and atoning death is legally given to us.
Justification: the act of God by which He judicially declares a believing sinner to be righteous and acceptable before Him.
Mercy: the undeserved kindness of God to mankind in its misery and bondage to sin.
Reconciliation: the removal of the hostility between us and God by means of Christ's saving work on the cross.
Redemption: the act of God in Christt by which we are "bought out" of the marketplace of sin and given spiritual freedom.
Regeneration: the act of the Spirit by which the person who believes in Christ is given new life or is born again.
Righteousness: a quality in God's character that comes from His intrinsic holiness; a quality that He both imputes and imparts to those who believe in Jesus.
Salvation: the act of God's grace by which He rescues us from the eternal consequences of our sin.
Santification: the "setting apart" of the believer by God for a life of holiness and service(positional) and a gradual growth in godliness(practical).
Sin: the violation of the moral law of God. It often carries the idea of missing the mark, lawlessness,
unrighteousness, transgression.
Wrath of God: God's righteous anger against sin and its outpouring in punishment.

The next time you read or study the book of Romans, these explanations may help you to grow in your knowledge of God and to appreciate all that He has given you in His great salvation in Christ.

As someone who considers himself a "Christian", I have learned that God wants a personal relationship with you and only He knows your heart and what lies in it. So God decides who is a Christian and who is not.

 

[TJ959]

Yup. When in doubt, go to the owners manual.

 

[cheri1122]

Cops: Woman harassed drivers by repeatedly braking

Streak needs to be careful about "teaching a lesson" by jamming on the brakes - apparently, it can be seen as harassment ['forcing others to tailgate'] even without a collision.....

 

[blackwood666]

I am a Theistic Satanist and display my faith on the back door people always give me a thumbs up! or a middle finger! LOL

 

[greg334]

Yup. When in doubt, go to the owners manual.

Yep that works when it is the original. Using copies that have been modified by man seems to be ... well ... not really answering all the questions.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Kinda like the mom with "Baby on Board" who weaves in and out of traffic whilst speeding like a banshee...

 

[layoutshooter]

Interesting side question: Just how many of the original, non-translated books, that were included in the bible are still around today? Many would be thousands of years old now. If they are still around, where are they? What shape are they in? THOSE books would be interesting to see.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Just a suggestion, reading Romans would be a good place to answer your question.

Let me share this with everyone, from "Our Daily Bread".





As someone who considers himself a "Christian", I have learned that God wants a personal relationship with you and only He knows your heart and what lies in it. So God decides who is a Christian and who is not.

Very good....that is why i don't do religion or churches...I believe in me and MY Lord...it is between me and Him...I cut out the middleman and saved the "cut" they take..and give it to the charity of my choice...when I can...

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Interesting side question: Just how many of the original, non-translated books, that were included in the bible are still around today? Many would be thousands of years old now. If they are still around, where are they? What shape are they in? THOSE books would be interesting to see.

It is interesting the number of Bible versions written to suit a particular religions beliefs...

I see the Bible more of a guide book on how to live with...Honour, integrity, respect and trust...

all the other stuff is just lights and magic show...

 

[witness23]

Very good....that is why i don't do religion or churches...I believe in me and MY Lord...it is between me and Him...I cut out the middleman and saved the "cut" they take..and give it to the charity of my choice...when I can...

I get that and respect that and you may be able to reach that relationship on your own without the help or guidance of other Christians. You have to remember though, we, being many are one in the body of Christ. Think of our own bodies and how all the individiual parts of our body work together so that we are able to survive. Each individual part has different functions but they all work together for us to survive, just like people, we all have individual talents that work together as one to bring glory to Jesus.

I am only speaking from experiance and I can say that I have benefited so much for being involved in my Church, its ministries, Bible study with our Pastor, my wifes family and the Bible study we do as a family every week. Basically what I am saying from my experiance is that I think I have grown as a Christian by being involved with other Christians bringing glory to our saviour, Jesus Christ.

Being a driver such as yourself OVM I understand you might not be able to get involved the way I described or even want to. I think all I am saying is that I have been blessed to have many involved in my life that believe in Christ and it has enriched my walk in Christ beyond belief and would love others to experience what I have.

Find a non-denominational, Bible based church that you are comfortable with and I think you might have a change of heart about being involved with a church.

I would highly recommend Rick Warrens Saddleback Church. My sister-in-law goes there and when we were there 4 years ago we went to a service and I was very much impressed. I had gotten his quarterly magazine, "Purpose Driven" and loved it! I have not been on their web-site but if its anything like the magazine you will not be disappointed.

I am rambling, I am sorry.

Going back to the original post. I look at it this way, nobody thinks twice about raising our athletes, Nascar drivers, TV and movie stars(I'll add politicians and Presidents since we are in the Soapbox) to heights they do not deserve by wearing their jerseys, placing their favorite Nascar drivers number on their vehicle, raising your team flag up the flagpole, etc, etc.....and for the most part it goes unnoticed.

I for one think that kind of praise, pride and enthusiasm should also be towards someone who truly deserves it, the one that suffered and gave his life on the cross to forgive our sins so that we could have a relationship with God. I think there is a place for that, but that's just me. So if someone wants to "plaster" their vehicle with religious or non religious symbols, that is their choice. I'll leave you with this.

John 7:24 - Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Witness..Thank you for the information...

In the end we all will be judged on our own merits..the path to God takes many twists and turns over a lifetime...I've taken many detours over the time, but somehow always came back to course..whether Devine intervention or fate. But I prefer to think that if ones tries hard to live a good life, God watches over us in some way...

 

[witness23]

It is interesting the number of Bible versions written to suit a particular religions beliefs...

I see the Bible more of a guide book on how to live with...Honour, integrity, respect and trust...

all the other stuff is just lights and magic show...

hmmm....I fealt that way before also. I thought Jesus was a great philosopher and that the Old Testament was the first attempt at the "Manual on how to live". That wasn't working out so the New Testament was the second attempt to get it right. That is actually not too far off but do you believe Jesus is God incarnated? Do you believe he was sent here to absolve the sin of man and that he died on the cross as the ultimate sacrifice? And here is the kicker.......do you believe Jesus was laid to rest only to be resurrected three days later to walk among us? Do you believe in the ascension? If so, you believe in the only religious figure in history to ever die and then be resurrected. And that my friend is were faith comes into play.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

You ever just drove along and have a "talk" with God? you know review kind of the things you might have done wrong or right? I know to some it might sound weird and all...I even consult to my past grandfather who was a dad to me...

 

[witness23]

You ever just drove along and have a "talk" with God? you know review kind of the things you might have done wrong or right? I know to some it might sound weird and all...I even consult to my past grandfather who was a dad to me...

Oh yeah.... I'll find myself doing that once in awhile. Those times of solitude are priceless at times for me.

 

[chefdennis]

OVM wrote:

You ever just drove along and have a "talk" with God? you know review kind of the things you might have done wrong or right? I know to some it might sound weird and all...I even consult to my past grandfather who was a dad to me...

On an ongoing basis...many don't realize that "prayer" is nothing more then you sharing a good conversation with the Lord...

And I have to converations with my dad also...if i could just live my life as he did, He'd have in made in Gods eyes....good thing he is a forgiving God...I know I fall short even before I get out of bed each day....