Why do Christian drivers...

Streakn1

Veteran Expediter
I think many do this, and dont realize how the "little stuff" affects their witness.

I've been "checked" on this myself, and do my best to follow the traffic laws. Not perfect.. We all "creep" up now and then... but I try.

Dale

My cruise control is my salvation Dale, except when it malfunctions like a while back!:eek:
 

x06col

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Retired Expediter
US Army
If u could , which non christian company should we drive for and which church should we stay away from, and what company in here should we run from , and how did u come up with ur criteria for such a selection. I'm sure many of the companies in here would want to know so they can do better, don't u? I'm all ears,,,so go for it..............:)

Well i'll not type any names, however, you'll know when it gets too thick for your comfort as far as the criterion goes. I would really hate to see the Churches empty, but my business experiences with folks whom have praised the Lord and had their hand in my azz pocket wuz not warm and fuzzy.
 

Dreamer

Administrator Emeritus
Charter Member
H
No, we don't all creep up now and then. Diane and I are very religious about operating within the speed limit but it has nothing to do with our witness or Christian beliefs.

We don't obey the speed limits because we fear God. We obey the speed limits because we fear higher fuel costs, increased tire wear, traffic citations, CSA points and the like.

And about the witness thing, when is the last time you saw someone accept Jesus Christ as his personal Lord and savior because he saw a Christian obeying the speed limit? The people I have seen convert to Christ don't do it because they see others living so well. They do it because they see themselves living so poorly.

Well see Phil, you're more perfect than me :)

Seriously, I don't have cruise control, so, sometimes I creep up!

As for the witness... perhaps that was a bad choice of word. Maybe i should have said "example" instead. Obviously, Streakn noticed the truck more because of the Christian stickers. My point was, if we share our faith, we must be careful our actions dont speak a different story than our words.

Just like this thread shows.... the "example" I set is more powerful than what I say.

Dale
 

Streakn1

Veteran Expediter
Where did you come up with that one? Never heard a truck driver say "I am going to speed in the name of god"

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out! Speeding is intentionally breaking the law. Plastering ones truck with Jesus/God emblems and slogans is identifying ones self as a christian. So we have a christian driver intentionally breaking the law. Simple physics, or is it they just don't know how to use the cruise control and read and obey speed limit signs?
 

ConfusedMuse

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Well AutonomyRex I don't publicly slam other people for their opinions. Don't know where you get off on slamming me, we are all entitled to our own opinions of the world.
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Well Streakin1,

You did say in your first Post you believed in God....Yet in another thread you started, you openly said that you'd slam on your brakes and INTENTIONALLY cause an accident because some driver was driving too close to your donkey....

Seems to me, for someone who hauls VERY important freight, Streak sure has a short fuse when it comes to the [perceived] shortcomings of other drivers. So much anger!
And I still can't figure out how a tailgater could be threatening his [Streak's] safety, anyhow. I mean, worst case, he rearends you - how does that constitute a bigger threat to you than to him?
I don't get it.:confused:
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
Well see Phil, you're more perfect than me :)

You know that's not true. We are talking about speed limits here (at least I am). While some people may observe them more often than others, that has nothing to do with perfection.
 
Last edited:

Streakn1

Veteran Expediter
No one is "sending" anyone to hell.....some people just choose that for themselves.

That same southern baptist preacher that I spoke of (whom runs a VERY large central FL church complete with TV services on Sunday told me and the congregation that every soul that we did not win over to God, that person's blood would be on our hands when they were condemned to an eternity in H E L L!

Made it sound as if we would be the responsible party that sent them there.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
This thread makes me think many got their plastic Jesus in the mail today.
 

dieseldiva

Veteran Expediter
That same southern baptist preacher that I spoke of (whom runs a VERY large central FL church complete with TV services on Sunday told me and the congregation that every soul that we did not win over to God, that person's blood would be on our hands when they were condemned to an eternity in H E L L!

Made it sound as if we would be the responsible party that sent them there.

That sounds a lot like the "collective salvation" we've been hearing a lot about lately. What happens to man's own free will in this scenario? Even in the simplest of terms....you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink!
 

Streakn1

Veteran Expediter
Well Streakin1,

You did say in your first Post you believed in God....Yet in another thread you started, you openly said that you'd slam on your brakes and INTENTIONALLY cause an accident because some driver was driving too close...

And if I am not mistaken, you have a slogan Plastered on the end of your trailer.

Your right so I guess that would make me one ticked off christian/spiritual driver when someone tailgates me mile after mile for no reason! Ya think?

Yes I do, my bumper sticker says " Abolish Alimony" to let people know what a truely communist pig government the state Of Florida and other alimony states are!

So now that everyone knows I'm on the hook for the rest of my life for "Lifetime Alimony" and if I chose to revolt against my state government and stop paying alimony, I would be a bad witness to other alimony payers! LOL
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
I would really hate to see the Churches empty, but my business experiences with folks whom have praised the Lord and had their hand in my azz pocket wuz not warm and fuzzy.

I hear that! The fleet owner who hurt us worst spoke of Jesus first.

In expediting and in other businesses I have learned that the quicker someone is to suggest that you should do business with him or her because of one's Christian beliefs, the more cautious to be about doing so.

Cheats are not without skill. They know well how to inspire blind trust and snare people in their web by sensing what is important to others and playing the Jesus card with those for whom Jesus is important.

When a stranger that I might do business with announces to me early on that he or she is a Christian, I don't believe I am talking with a Christian. I make an extra effort to make sure that I am not talking with a con.
 

Streakn1

Veteran Expediter
H

Well see Phil, you're more perfect than me :)

Seriously, I don't have cruise control, so, sometimes I creep up!

As for the witness... perhaps that was a bad choice of word. Maybe i should have said "example" instead. Obviously, Streakn noticed the truck more because of the Christian stickers. My point was, if we share our faith, we must be careful our actions dont speak a different story than our words.

Just like this thread shows.... the "example" I set is more powerful than what I say.

Dale

Now wait a minute Dale! The Cruise Control was my line. Don't go giving that one to Phil! LOL

I've not mastered the art of religiuosly maintaining my speed within the legal limits of the law so I must rely of my CC till then. I yearn to be perfect some day!
 
Last edited:

HHDLLC

Seasoned Expediter
Who the HECK cares. I'm so tired of hearing all this Holly Roller crap. I believe in what I belive in, you have all the right to believe in what do CHOOSE to believe. Why is it they go to go over board and and put stuff on their trucks, or their emails or try to talk to you about how they are saved. I'm happy they are happy but leave me alone. I was once told that vices don't go away, they are just replaced by a different vice. If you pay attention you will find that most of these overboard Christians are just replacing a vice with a new one, and Most don't come close to particing what they preach. My thoughts anyway.
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
Or just maybe Col... the church is full of people who want to worship God.
You should lead with that the next time you're on stage at the Comedy Club. :D

Christianity is full of hypocrisy and hypocrites. There's an astonishing amount of "Do as I say, not as I do" among Christians. Many of them are prone to harshly judge others for their sins, and their perceived sins. Too often the sins are in the eye of the beholder and not in the eye of the Bible. Good Christians know this about bad Christians, too, but are slow and loathe to admit it.

As the Col obviously well knows, and I'm surprised more here do not, there are more than a few carriers (and fleet owners) who loudly bill themselves as "Christian" carriers. May of these are not exactly on the up and up, shall we say. They claim to be Christian companies (can you say Covenant?), but their practices are far from it. They'll talk your ears off about the Bible while they take your wallet out of your back pocket.

They bill themselves as such because people will think a good Christian company won't rip them off, and Christians go to work for them thinking that very thing, and more often than not never looking for the signs of being ripped off when they are, and too often giving the carrier the benefit of the doubt when something looks a little fishy.

Who wants to question the honesty and integrity of a good Christian carrier? Certainly not good Christian drivers who made the decision to trust their good Christian carrier. In the meantime, these good Christian carriers are ripping off drivers at every opportunity, hypocrisy at its finest. They talk about Christian values and integrity, and often demand it of their drivers, but show none of it themselves. It's the classic whitewashed tombs.

One company, who is generally regarded as one of the worst, has as their company Mission "to honor the Lord and bring glory to God as the best truckload carrier in our operating region." Well hallelujah and hosanna, y'all, 'cause being the best truckload company in their operating region is what God really wants. <snort>

I'm sure most everyone has at least heard some of the stuff that Covenant does. Or McElroy. There is an extensive list. Plenty of fleet owners, too. It's almost to the point where if the fleet owner or the carrier bills itself as Christian, you can bank on it that they're not. If you have any money left to bank, that is.

There's really no reason to proclaim that you're a Christian company, since a company itself cannot be Christian, unless it's done as an advertising tool for a monetary gain. That in and of itself isn't very Christian, it's greed and
deceit and arrogance, which are all immoralities that Jesus himself addressed directly.

Every now and then you run into a Christian driver who is looking for a good Christian company to sign on with. I tell all of them same thing,
"There are so-called Christians, and then there are those that live and work by Christian values and ethics. Find a trucking company that has ethics and integrity, and values their contractors and employees, and don't worry about the religion of the owners and management. You'll come out way ahead if you do that."

That's not to say that all companies who profess to be Christian carriers are hypocrites. There are a few who actually walk the walk. Like Tradewinds, for example, who has a really good reputation. But they are the exceptions to the rule.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Gregg, that was a whole different thread. This one is about christians not acting like christains, respect or no respect!:D

Well I guess... but to me what's the big deal, it's their truck, they can put stickers all over it as long as they don't cause anyone to get hurt by their actions while putting them stickers on.

By the way, how many of you seen any devil worshipers with their religion's symbols plastered on the truck? Would you criticize them for speeding or cutting people off?
 

jj214

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Observations: It would appear many Christian drivers are very accident prone. Were I to start a Trucking company I would employ only Jewish drivers. In my travels I have yet to see a Star of David memorial along side the road.

WWJD - What would Jesus drive?

If anything like his Dad he would be a Mopar man.- "Behold, I will gather them out of all countries, where I have driven them in my anger, and in my Fury .
 
Top