Where is the best place for Tractors?

[garyatk]

Why is it that there seems to be as many or more people that want to tear you apart rather than answer a simple question? Many of us are just trying to survive and need good advice. There are so many successful people here, and it would be very nice to be able to communicate in here without being jumped on...

I wish I was able to help you Dave... If you are interested in reefer freight send me a PM. Good luck to you!!!

 

[davekc]

To answer this kind of question requires more information.
For example, is the driver not satisfied with the miles, revenue, the carrier or everything?
Good money in being a bed bugger or car hauler, but it takes a certain type of person to do it. That kind of thing.
Have to know the drivers wants and capabilities.

With regards to expediting, a team is generally going to be more profitable. Is it the most lucrative? Not even remotely close.

With that said, the other issues are TT drivers have more opportunity and frequently jump ship regardless of what they are doing. The other issue is whether carrier lease deals are making you lose drivers, or is it something else?

Several different things need to be clearly identified before one can really answer this type of question.

There's my penny in the pond.

 

[greg334]

No, you assumed that is what I was implying that we didn't make money running our tractor solo at our carrier. Which we do.

not really, you said you need to place it with a carrier that will load a single driver which means that you are not making the money YOU WANT. If you are making the money, then this exercise for my fingers and hands makes rather a moot point.

I am, why do you think I asked about which company is best for a solo driver? Did you ever think that the driver I have don't want to work at our current carrier?

OK I got that part but why are you letting the driver dictate to where the truck goes, rather a odd thing.

Because I can, and maybe we don't want to put all of our eggs in one basket.

Maybe you should have read in my response to Moose, he asked and I explained. Putting your eggs in one basket with a carrier may be one thing but having a diverse source of income is an entirely different thing and you just can't get beyond the expediting thing. I added to that as a reinforcement to my point by explaining what I would do because I know that works.

SO good things are diverse sources, bad things are depending solely on a niche market.

No you assumed once again. I never said what is the best Expedite carrier for a solo driver. I asked what is the best carrier for a Tractor?

AND I answered it - look in the mirror. Take charge and get the truck moving. With 11 hours of drive time, you can move that truck at least 450 miles a day, six days a week - 2700 miles a week and I bet you could make more than $2 a mile easily and consistently.

I'm not listing to Phil as you put it. I'm my own person and can think on my own. Sounds to me like your jealous of Phil Madsen Greg. The only one that seems to THINK they know a lot more than others is YOU GREG.

OK you are praising him and you are defending him, yep a difference ... sorry. You assumed I bashed him in the landstar thread you made me look as if I was bashing him on a subject that you know little about. I am not jealous of Phil but I am tired of people who think he isn't a big boy and can't defend himself. We have a difference of opinion but that does not stop me from telling people to go to his site and believe or not, when someone here asked him why he starts with ... I think they said "lame" saying "I learned something today" I defended him - wow I think I just said I defended him. When I meet EO members, I also don't trash him like you would expect.

Overall I think that my approach has worked for me and others I have helped, some of that info I passed on or tried to pass on to you but I won't go down that road because it is tiring and you wouldn't understand.

Why do you think I listen to Phil? I have been doing this 10 years longer than Phil. That is not a knock at Phil. They are Expediters Greg and you act like your Jealous of Phil because he is a good writer.

Why?

Because of your defense of him, without actually asking the questions why it is being said. Your praise of him seems to be a bit sometimes too.

The amount of years doesn't seem to mean much unless you do more than buy a truck, put a driver into it and let the company do the work finding the work for you to turn a buck. AS I SAID get out and look for the work and you will find the truck will make more money than just sitting there waiting for some beep. But with all your wisdom, you bring up the crap about cheap freight, which means one you don't get what I'm saying and two cheap freight is like dehydrated water to me and many others because we already know where to look and I offered my opinion about it.

I also am not an expediter, I am a business owner who owns capacity that I get paid for its use. I do more than just sit behind the wheel and wait for the beep. I took risks, I learned by experiencing things and I know what I can and can't do while I also know if I want to make a crap load of money, I can but I don't because life is a **** for me at this point. I also know not to pee on people's legs who helped me before.

You have an OPINION for everything Greg and I could care less what you think.

Yeppers I sure do, everyone does if you ask them.

I didn't ask you what you would do. I ask what carrier was the best for solo driver

AND I answered it ... again - look in the mirror. Stop worrying about what the driver wants, stop worrying about what the company wants stop worrying about cheap freight and get the work for the truck.

Panther has the program where you find the work and if the shipper or consignee is not black listed, they will process the paper work for you - taking only 15%. Have you actually tried it?

I would think the answer is nope.

Greg you run you fleet of so called trucks and I will run mine. I don't tell you how to run yours so please don't try to tell me your hog wash because that is what it is. I haven't been doing this for 17 years because I don't know how to run my trucks.

Then don't ask questions that you are not prepared to be answered with differing opinions.

My "so called" trucks were not mine but someone elses who trusted me with them. They number more than yours and they all made money. It wasn't easy and I wasn't about to give it up but I also wasn't about to not to make money doing it for the guy. As you know we could not reach an agreement on the amount of money he was willing to pay so I left on good terms and I charged him to bring the new manager up to speed. I made money for him, I improved his bottom line and I didn't worry about what company was the best for a single driver because I didn't worry about it.

You've only been a fleet owner for how long?

Wrong again as you can only assume that they find me loads when I find loads for my trucks myself.

What?

OK I guess IRT needs to explain that one to me.

Did you mean that you actually do more than let them do all the work?

How am I assuming when you said you won't load your own truck with cheap freight and than ... never mind I've had a long day already.

I assume that you have a computer and an email account and ask how to access some of these load boards. Maybe John can direct you to some work or contact NLM and get on their unqualified carrier's list.

Too funny.

If that was the case, I would of never asked " where is the best place for tractors.

BOY you keep going back there and I keep telling you - look in the mirror.

Greg thats because you sometimes act like you know it all.

Well apparently Dave, I seem to be a step ahead of you. Sorry but I know the answer to the question you keep asking.

Greg your a nice guy but you need to get rid of this "I know it all attitude" Your no better than anyone else.

Nope not really a nice guy, Phil is a nice guy, DaveKC is a nice guy, Caffees are nice and a whole bunch of others are nice people - I'm not a nice guy because I tell my opinion and don't care what people do with it. If they want to follow my advice, fine that's great but if they don't and want to follow you, that's great too.

BUT what matters to me is that they don't get screwed by owners/carriers, other people and especially being complacent and not taking a risk to better themselves. I may not be right in your eyes what I say, but ... so what ... I know what works for me works so I tell people about it and if it works for them, great.

On the other hand, I had a tough road to get where I am at, more obstacles than anyone would believe. I didn't start at the top, I made a lot of mistakes which means I am no expert and I'm NOT afraid of admitting to those mistakes while others do.

Just to add something - go read my post about 80 cents per mile van freight in that landstar thread and think about it ...

What a long day ...

 

[usafk9]

.....**running to get some more popcorn. Think I'll have hot and sweet this time.**

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[Bruno]

Greg (PITA) I been a Fleet Owner 15 of the 17 years that I have been in this business. Is that okay with you Lord Expediter? I ask a question about whats the best place for a tractor and you want to tell me how to run my trucks. The driver is not telling me where I have to put my truck. But really it's none of your damm business Greg. I have done fine for 17 years with out your help and I will be fine another 20 without your help. I never seen a man that feels he has to try to act like he knows everything about this business. Now Greg you want to preach about Panthers way but you don't even have a truck on with them. Now if you want to have a contest with C units we can. I may not know much about tractors in this business because I have always had C and D units. But we can lay some money down on who's truck would do the most income. We can start out with $2000.00 bet because I would love to take your money. Put up or shut Greg with your know it all crap.

Just so you know 3 of our trucks was in the top ten grossing trucks last week for Panther.

 

[davekc]

Just so you know 3 of our trucks was in the top ten grossing trucks last week for Panther.

I know who has 5 of the others.

 

[Dakota]

In front of the trailers

 

[paullud]

I know who has 5 of the others.

Congratulations.

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[mcavoy33]

Bruno,

Why not change the way you pay your drivers. Either drop the base a penny or two and give them a 2c bonus for miles they ran 3 months ago for you.

Or put a training fee in the contract if thet choose to do the lease program.

 

[Turtle]

But really it's none of your damm business Greg. I have done fine for 17 years with out your help and I will be fine another 20 without your help.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but when you post something to a public forum, you instantly make it everybody's business.

If you aren't prepared for the comments, don't post to a public forum.

 

[greg334]

Greg (PITA) I been a Fleet Owner 15 of the 17 years that I have been in this business. Is that okay with you Lord Expediter?

OK, seeing you are making this a bit personal, I will play and entertain others.

I've been doing this since July of 2005 and it seems I know more about what is going on than you do.

So I guess you have to ask obvious questions that you should already know.

I ask a question about whats the best place for a tractor and you want to tell me how to run my trucks.

You asked and I answered, BUT I never said "Dave you have to do it this way and only this way because I say so". I suggested to you, gave you an example and you got defensive so as I said you are sitting there with a few trucks with a great opportunity asking dumb questions and making dumb statements that costs you money - not my fault. I also said I don't care what you do, you asked and I gave my opinion which seems that is what others do and has been confirmed if you bother to read other threads.

The driver is not telling me where I have to put my truck.

It appears that way when you asked "Did you ever think that the driver I have don't want to work at our current carrier?"

I don't have to think about that one, if the driver doesn't like the carrier, get another driver. You accommodate a driver to make a business decision is rather foolish unless that driver brings you business. When I mean bring you business, I don't mean as a driver representing the carrier but as a person bringing you a customer or two that you can make real money with.

THIS is the problem with many here, they think that it is a personal venture when it is business and stop treating as a business. I explained that I would increase the revenue share for the driver to retain them and run the crap out of the tractor by putting anything on it that I can get but you didn't get that.

Cheap freight is another issue that seems to be childish when you as a fleet owner take a stand "I won't load my truck with cheap freight but let it sit" - you ever think that all you are getting from your carrier of choice IS cheap freight?

But really it's none of your damm business Greg.

But really you made it everyone's business when you posted the question and went on a rant about advice you didn't like.

Too bad that this isn't about something worth while to fight over. I mean that many here may think it is another "oh crap greg is at it again - that idiot - bashing someone else" but it isn't - I have made a lot of good and valid points and the emails I have gotten have seem to be asking for more info instead of telling me to shut up. Opps there are two more in my inbox - too funny...

I have done fine for 17 years with out your help and I will be fine another 20 without your help.

Good, hope you do well for the next 20, and learn from others because that is the only way you may survive. I hope to be out of this end of the business in that time.

I never seen a man that feels he has to try to act like he knows everything about this business.

Really?

I never seen a man ask a question and then get incredulous when it is answered.

I told you I don't know everything but it appears YOU DO judging by your reaction. You are telling me that you already think my opinion doesn't work so ...

Now Greg you want to preach about Panthers way but you don't even have a truck on with them.

Well first I am not preaching, I am explaining to you what I see and if I was in your position, what I would do - it is a no brainer.

Yep you are right I don't have a truck on with panther but I do know that you can get work and process the paper through them IT is a BIG deal. I also know that people who sit back and ignore opportunities are those who eventually fail and those who also seem to be the most defensive about their operations.

Now if you want to have a contest with C units we can. I may not know much about tractors in this business because I have always had C and D units. But we can lay some money down on who's truck would do the most income. We can start out with $2000.00 bet because I would love to take your money. Put up or shut Greg with your know it all crap.

Why after 17 years in the business you don't know a thing about tractors?

This isn't rocket science.

Why should I bet anyone, you're the one asking the question - not me. You're the one being all defensive and trying to prove something that may or may not be an issue for anyone but you. I don't have to prove a thing, people don't have to read what I say or even care but if it helps one person, great.

Just so you know 3 of our trucks was in the top ten grossing trucks last week for Panther.

So ... your point?

You averaging $3.50 a mile?

I would like to compare that to the top producer at Landstar. I don't mean little C units, I mean top fleet producers.

Not to demean DaveKC, but what's the big deal about any of that?

I have been told DaveKC's operation is really good but please ... If you want to boast, take those trucks and find work for them on your own then boast about it.

Too funny.

 

[BigBusBob]

I'm not going to get too much into this thread, though I will say it's been educational as much as it's been entertaining.

Greg, I've always been curious-with over 18k posts, and a member since 2005 on EO, how many trucks do you own? are you a driver yourself? if so, how long have you been a commercial driver that drove, and also how long have you been an owner operator? Just curious. You of course don't have to answer if you don't want to.

Bruno, I will emphasize that if a truck is not rolling, it's not making any money. So if it's sitting because drivers are jumping off to go over to a lease/purchase plan or whatever, the truck is not making money. Getting a flatbed or step deck trailer is a good idea Bruno, but putting together LTL loads yourself is another subject-because if you want to haul them yourself wouldn't you need your own authority? Nobody brought that up in my quick reading.

Greg, your cheap freight argument sounds good in theory, but... I disagree.
With todays fuel prices, cheap freight is often not worth it. Say what you want, but cheap freight doesn't pay the bills... it will however get a truck out of a location known for low paying outgoing loads going to better revenue producing areas. it's a case of some money is better than no money. You seem like a fairly intelligent person, you should know that cheap freight is a bad thing-but if you need to relocate it can really save your tail.

and another thing that I think Bruno might have brought up, or maybe it was Greg... Not sure... somebody said that it doesn't pay to use a solo driver in a rig. Why? Sure a team is always better-in anything, even a cargo van! but, there's a good many solo drivers that make really good money. Often it's a case of choosing your loads carefully, as well as the type of freight, and the region also can make a difference. LTL loads pay good, but if you're going to have a driver or drivers on there, they're going to have to have some flatbed experience.
if your truck is at PII, why not look into a reefer trailer of your own? They haul do some reefer work don't they? I know they do with straight trucks. Convert the tractor into a nice straight truck and put it in their special services division and offer drivers more than pay.
You have to pay a driver and entice a driver, drivers are like (and I mean this in a very nice "humorous" way) circus animals. If you find a good performer, to keep them, you got to pamper them. and you have to continue to pamper them.

Another tactic Bruno, is to have two different trailers of your own, a reefer trailer, and a step deck. This way, when biz is slow on one side, you can switch over to the other. Just keep them in a secure yard along a busy freight lane somewhere that has reefer, dry van, and flatbed/LTL work fairly easy to get to along the route.

"Example", if its a slow season for reefer work, and dry van freight is sluggish-but flat bedders are running wide open and still can't keep up-If your driver or driverS are in Miami and drop a load of boogie boards there and pull produce out to Baltimore. You can switch trailers when they get a load out some where in TN/KY or near Atlanta... generally where all kinds of freight can be found. or in the Great Lakes regionS.

Just food for thought.
That's my 2 cents.
Interesting thread, like I said, educational and entertaining.

Good Job guys, we laughing and learning at the same time!

 

[Bruno]

Not to put too fine a point on it, but when you post something to a public forum, you instantly make it everybody's business.

If you aren't prepared for the comments, don't post to a public forum.

Turtle, Hello long time not talk. I understand what your saying. But Greg has only been in this business since 2005 and THINKS he is the know it all of everything.

 

[Bruno]

Greg

For someone who has only been in this business only 6 years you sure seem to think you know it all. As far as what I know in this business I don't share everything on EO or try to act like I know everything like you do. But the question was put out on EO for a reason and you proved a point to someone and I lost $50.00 over it. The point was if I posted a question on EO would Greg334 responded to the post with your know it all manner. Well, you did and proved me wrong. As far as what I do know about this business doesn't matter, I know I have drove more miles than you, done more loads than you, and have made more money than you in this business. You talk trash about Phil and he has been in this business longer than you.

As far as you making $3.50 a mile that may be true only because your doing a 100 mile load a day. If you want to look at it like that way my local truck is getting $7.78 a mile then. Don't try to come one here and paint a picture that your making $3.50 a mile for loads over 1000 miles because we all know better Greg. I know a lot about tractors Greg as my family has been in trucking over 90 years. I have ways to keep my Tractor loaded Greg, every heard of Transcore 360? I use it everyday just like Panther, Load1 and many other.

Thanks for costing me $50.00

 

[greg334]

I'm not going to get too much into this thread, though I will say it's been educational as much as it's been entertaining.

Yep been entertaining. I should post some of the emails I got about this thread - they are also entertaining.

Greg, I've always been curious-with over 18k posts, and a member since 2005 on EO, how many trucks do you own? are you a driver yourself?

I don't know how it happened but I can tell you that it may not be all that correct, I am thinking maybe 12k. If you know anything about this software, it can be changed by anyone who has admin access.

How many?

I had if I remember right more than 14 at one time, back a while ago but now I have this one and two others I just bought and will take possession in a couple weeks.

Yeppers I drive, not just my truck but I also drive for another company doing fill in work or special automotive stuff.

if so, how long have you been a commercial driver that drove, and also how long have you been an owner operator? Just curious. You of course don't have to answer if you don't want to.

Don't mind answering, I have been a commercial driver for more than 24 years on and off. From trucks to vans to cars. I used that work to put me through "school" so I could build a IT career.

Bruno, I will emphasize that if a truck is not rolling, it's not making any money. So if it's sitting because drivers are jumping off to go over to a lease/purchase plan or whatever, the truck is not making money. Getting a flatbed or step deck trailer is a good idea Bruno, but putting together LTL loads yourself is another subject-because if you want to haul them yourself wouldn't you need your own authority? Nobody brought that up in my quick reading.

Actually I think Panther would allow this if he is a fleet owner but I can't see why they wouldn't. The problem is he expects the company to load the truck and I say do it himself.

Greg, your cheap freight argument sounds good in theory, but... I disagree.

That's alright, you are making good points without emotion

With todays fuel prices, cheap freight is often not worth it. Say what you want, but cheap freight doesn't pay the bills... it will however get a truck out of a location known for low paying outgoing loads going to better revenue producing areas. it's a case of some money is better than no money. You seem like a fairly intelligent person, you should know that cheap freight is a bad thing-but if you need to relocate it can really save your tail.

Well first it isn't about cheap freight but the accumulation of the freight on the deck, in other words it is about having a combination of loads with the goal to capture a section of bell curve (highest rate) for a largest amount of miles without a lot of dead head. Think of it like a bell curve where you have maybe two loads that are a buck total at each end and they go the entire length of the run, say 400 miles. Then add the other stuff, even those 80 cent 140 mile runs are there and it all adds up.

Is it a lot of work?

Yep it is.

Is there a chance you won't make the 5 or 6 a mile all the time?

yep but it is far better than 1.78 a mile - don't you agree?

and another thing that I think Bruno might have brought up, or maybe it was Greg... Not sure... somebody said that it doesn't pay to use a solo driver in a rig. Why? Sure a team is always better-in anything, even a cargo van! but, there's a good many solo drivers that make really good money. Often it's a case of choosing your loads carefully, as well as the type of freight, and the region also can make a difference. LTL loads pay good, but if you're going to have a driver or drivers on there, they're going to have to have some flatbed experience.

Well I think it was DaveKC who made that point but I also said that a solo can make good money.

if your truck is at PII, why not look into a reefer trailer of your own? They haul do some reefer work don't they? I know they do with straight trucks. Convert the tractor into a nice straight truck and put it in their special services division and offer drivers more than pay.

Again my point is look at the options and don't always assume that expedite freight is high paying freight or the only game in town.

You have to pay a driver and entice a driver, drivers are like (and I mean this in a very nice "humorous" way) circus animals. If you find a good performer, to keep them, you got to pamper them. and you have to continue to pamper them.

Well I won't get into that stuff for a reason.

Another tactic Bruno, is to have two different trailers of your own, a reefer trailer, and a step deck. This way, when biz is slow on one side, you can switch over to the other. Just keep them in a secure yard along a busy freight lane somewhere that has reefer, dry van, and flatbed/LTL work fairly easy to get to along the route.

Thanks, that's the point he is fighting me on - thinking outside the box.

"Example", if its a slow season for reefer work, and dry van freight is sluggish-but flat bedders are running wide open and still can't keep up-If your driver or driverS are in Miami and drop a load of boogie boards there and pull produce out to Baltimore. You can switch trailers when they get a load out some where in TN/KY or near Atlanta... generally where all kinds of freight can be found. or in the Great Lakes regionS.

Just food for thought.
That's my 2 cents.
Interesting thread, like I said, educational and entertaining.

Good Job guys, we laughing and learning at the same time!

You're welcome, I hope others will learn too.

 

[greg334]

Turtle, Hello long time not talk. I understand what your saying. But Greg has only been in this business since 2005 and THINKS he is the know it all of everything.

Well seeing you think I think I know it all, why bring Turtle into it, he may think you know it all and then we can all have a good laugh.

Greg

For someone who has only been in this business only 6 years you sure seem to think you know it all.

Well Dave, here is the thing - I have been in different businesses since I don't remember (I think jr high) and I know I had to learn quickly to survive.

This business was a last ditch effort not to lose my home and to provide what I could for them with the limitations I faced and still face. You have been explained all about that so I won't get into that here BUT I also said this is one of the easiest businesses I have ever been in because there is only competition from the other trucks in the fleet and if I wanted to kissa** like others have done, I would have made a lot of money.

BUT you also know that wasn't the case, and seeing I was challenged the first night I was out on the road and I took it seriously to learn as much as I can in that short time, it seems I did a hell of a lot more than you did and I did it not just for myself but others.

As far as what I know in this business I don't share everything on EO or try to act like I know everything like you do.

I don't either. BUT it may be my style of delivery because for the longest time I had to deal with idiots who could not figure out the simplest things. So my approach may not be the best but who rgf as long as the info is shared.

By the way, what have you actually shared?

Maybe you need to actually review your posts there to see what you have shared other than accolades for a carrier or likes for some post.

I may come off as an a** at times but it seems people do get what I'm saying.

I think BBB reinforced some of what I have said to you and DaveKC has in another thread - oh and X06col too.

But the question was put out on EO for a reason and you proved a point to someone and I lost $50.00 over it. The point was if I posted a question on EO would Greg334 responded to the post with your know it all manner. Well, you did and proved me wrong.

Well that's pretty childish and I have to call it BS because you seem to be covering your tracks a bit. Maybe because of others saying something along the lines as I have been saying?

As far as what I do know about this business doesn't matter, I know I have drove more miles than you, done more loads than you, and have made more money than you in this business. You talk trash about Phil and he has been in this business longer than you.

Well you got that first part right, it doesn't.

BUT guess what?

Who cares?

I mean I'm not going to lose any sleep over it and frankly if it impresses anyone beyond your dog I would be surprised.

Today I had a conversation with a owner operator who has driven 1.8 million miles with one company and he didn't seem to be trying to impress me with his miles, money or loads. We talked about this exact subject and I walked away relieved that he wasn't working for you because he would be sitting - he hauls what you consider cheap freight and if I heard right, he netted over 80k and he is a single. By the way his company bought him his truck for running 1.7 million miles.

I don't trash Phil, read what I said in the past two months and think for a bit. He may have been in business longer than me but he has little experience outside FedEx. Nevertheless, he does have a lot to offer and I do tell people to read his blog and when I have copies, I hand his piece about expediting to anyone who asked me about it. The real problem I have with you is you became so defensive in that thread and made me look like I was bashing him while you didn't have a clue what I was talking about in the first place.

As far as you making $3.50 a mile that may be true only because your doing a 100 mile load a day. If you want to look at it like that way my local truck is getting $7.78 a mile then.

Dave, read this part carefully.

That's all miles, not just loaded.

I won't post the other rates which are higher but you know what I've been making on the cross border work and what I gross a month.

Don't try to come one here and paint a picture that your making $3.50 a mile for loads over 1000 miles because we all know better Greg.

Well guess what fittizio, I am not the one saying I am top expediter at my carrier or that I have driven more miles, made more money and done more loads - you have.

I'm not the one who thinks that the only way to make money is this expedite thing with all the qualifications and equipment. Yes people can make money but it isn't the only money to be had.

I know a lot about tractors Greg as my family has been in trucking over 90 years. I have ways to keep my Tractor loaded Greg, every heard of Transcore 360? I use it everyday just like Panther, Load1 and many other.

Really?

90 years?

Could have fooled me, than why ask the question in the first place IF you know the answer?

Oh .... that's right, you did it to bet someone - right

Transcore 360?

Ever heard of thinking outside the box?

what's your point?

I have access to that and a lot more. Should I list them so you can be impressed?

Thanks for costing me $50.00

AND it was worth every penny.

 

[Bruno]

Greg

1st off, I'm not bringing Turtle in anything. What I can't say hello? 2nd I'm not trying to tell people how to run their trucks or truck as you do. 3rd I'm not trying to cover my rear end with the bet, because that is a big rear end to cover. As far as my family being in the trucking business for over 90 years, It can be verified. Now your tall tails, you probably won't produce your statements as we all know. Next thing I know you will try to say is my great uncle Melvin Mayfield wasn't a Congressional Metal of Honor recipient.

I'm glad you try to help people on here with your 14,000 plus posts. But save your BS for Oprah. Now post your next post because we all know you will respond to this one. I can bet on that one too.

Oh and by the way I'm not the top Expediter in the company. I said Three of our trucks, which means that the drivers was in the top ten grossing trucks last week not me. That was just one week Greg.

Your the one that started the bragging, "I'm getting $3.50 a mile" is what you said. Saying 3 of our trucks was in the top ten last week was bragging so be it. I will brag about my drivers hard work every time. They busted their butts not me.

 

[paullud]

Greg

1st off, I'm not bringing Turtle in anything. What I can't say hello? 2nd I'm not trying to tell people how to run their trucks or truck as you do. 3rd I'm not trying to cover my rear end with the bet, because that is a big rear end to cover. As far as my family being in the trucking business for over 90 years, It can be verified. Now your tall tails, you probably won't produce your statements as we all know. Next thing I know you will try to say is my great uncle Melvin Mayfield wasn't a Congressional Metal of Honor recipient.

I'm glad you try to help people on here with your 14,000 plus posts. But save your BS for Oprah. Now post your next post because we all know you will respond to this one. I can bet on that one too.

I always love it when someone claims they make some huge amount of money but tell you it is none of your business when you ask for proof. Why did they tell you how much they made then?

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[mcavoy33]

Its become evident to me that thhric. The op isn't interested anymore in real ideas to help him, he's having too much fun playing with greg.

 

[cheri1122]

Greg
But the question was put out on EO for a reason and you proved a point to someone and I lost $50.00 over it. The point was if I posted a question on EO would Greg334 responded to the post with your know it all manner. Well, you did and proved me wrong.

Thanks for costing me $50.00

Dave: it's not Greg's fault you lost the bet - if you bet that he wouldn't respond in a 'know it all manner', you might as well have tossed the $ out the window, lol.