What's wrong with our government?

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Read and think...

Story Number One -


From the AP;

BROWNSVILLE, Texas – Nearly six months after the U.S.-Mexico border fence ordered by the Bush administration was supposed to be finished, its completion is in limbo while a judge waits answers to questions about private property in the fence's path.


About 630 miles of the promised 670-mile-long vehicle and pedestrian barrier is complete, with the unfinished portion in deep south Texas where opposition is fierce and the government has struggled to get the land it needs.


The biggest unfinished segment is a 13-mile stretch that runs east of Brownsville through rich farmland toward the Gulf of Mexico.


While the government has taken steps to smooth the project's path — such as paying to relocate 300 native palm trees from a section near Brownsville — some of its promises are coming under intense scrutiny.


Government possession of several pieces of farmland needed for that final stretch was suspended last month by the judge.
Government lawyers are now scrambling to meet the judge's orders and provide written answers to landowners' most basic questions: What precisely is the government taking, and how will property owners access the thousands of acres of land stranded between the border fence and the Rio Grande?

Story Number Two -


From the AP;


SHANKSVILLE, Pa. -- The National Park Service has acquired about 950 acres of land for the Flight 93 National Memorial in southwestern Pennsylvania.


Friday's announcement said it's the park service's largest single acquisition of private land for the memorial about 65 miles southeast of Pittsburgh. The land does not include the 500 acres of private land the government is trying to acquire for the memorial through eminent domain.

The government plans a $58 million, 2,200-acre permanent memorial and national park at the crash site.
 

layoutshooter

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You got that right!!! I am an equal opportunity mis-truster!! I have NO use for either the Dumb-O-Crats or the
Re-bum-li-cans!! THEY ALL SUCK!!! VOTE THEM ALL OUT IN 2010!!! EVERY INCUMBNET!! For AT LEAST the next 5 elections!! Take back our control over government!! It is your RIGHT and DUTY!!!
 

chefdennis

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As much as i have no use for barry, i don't see this as his fault...this is a judical issue in the border and a parks dept on the farmland...the park isse is worse for me becuase they want to take the private property and use it for a memorial!?!? not i am sorry that is not what eminent domain is for.....

The border fence, screw them, that fence sits closer to mexico then america. I have driven along it in brownsville, del rio, el paso, and larredo and all the cities inbetween those cities...the lose of any property is compensted for and the loss is minimal...yea when it is along the river there can be more land lost, but sometime you have to give ...this is what eminent domain is for....
 

layoutshooter

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I plan to do just that Shooter....the only problem is by then it may be too late.

Yeah, I know, but I have to give it one last shot. Too bad the "scumuloids" are taking over. It no longer pays to be a responsible hard working person in this country. I would be better off if I was a drug addict with strange uncontrollable urges. :(
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
As much as i have no use for barry, i don't see this as his fault...this is a judical issue in the border and a parks dept on the farmland...the park isse is worse for me becuase they want to take the private property and use it for a memorial!?!? not i am sorry that is not what eminent domain is for.....

The border fence, screw them, that fence sits closer to mexico then america. I have driven along it in brownsville, del rio, el paso, and larredo and all the cities inbetween those cities...the lose of any property is compensted for and the loss is minimal...yea when it is along the river there can be more land lost, but sometime you have to give ...this is what eminent domain is for....

This is ONLY the beginning.
 

greg334

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Thanks Chef, that's the exact issue - Eminent Domain.

The parks service is memorializing the deaths of the people who actually died fighting to do the right thing, I don't think we need a park in their honor but something that shows our gratitude. We have enough parks that don't get visited enough to justify their existence.

On the other hand we have a bunch of ranchers holding up our safety with some stupid need to water their plants. I say use the court to give them pennies on the dollar like they did in the New London case and build a real border. I would want to see a half mile strip of land form the shores of Texas to San Diego with a real border, take everything within that strip and give the owners pennies on the dollar, our security is more important.

Both of these are issues for congress, not Obama but again he wants open borders too.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
Thanks Chef, that's the exact issue - Eminent Domain.

The parks service is memorializing the deaths of the people who actually died fighting to do the right thing, I don't think we need a park in their honor but something that shows our gratitude. We have enough parks that don't get visited enough to justify their existence.

On the other hand we have a bunch of ranchers holding up our safety with some stupid need to water their plants. I say use the court to give them pennies on the dollar like they did in the New London case and build a real border. I would want to see a half mile strip of land form the shores of Texas to San Diego with a real border, take everything within that strip and give the owners pennies on the dollar, our security is more important.

Both of these are issues for congress, not Obama but again he wants open borders too.

So does the Congress, the more illegal slugs that ACORN can register the more likely the scum running this country now will be re-elected. They only need one or two more elections then there will be no more.
 

greg334

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Acorn is a different subject altogether, no one seems to get the idea of voter fraud. Even Tallcal seems to be clueless when his vote no longer counts in his own state and voter fraud will make it worst.

Today's election results;

Proposition B passed with 20,304,302 votes for and 1203 against with 120% of voter turnout.
 

Dakota

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You got that right!!! I am an equal opportunity mis-truster!! I have NO use for either the Dumb-O-Crats or the
Re-bum-li-cans!! THEY ALL SUCK!!! VOTE THEM ALL OUT IN 2010!!! EVERY INCUMBNET!! For AT LEAST the next 5 elections!! Take back our control over government!! It is your RIGHT and DUTY!!!
I wish we could vote em all out
There are a few that deserve to stay
Get rid of the excessive pay to keep the career politicians away!!!
 

chefdennis

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Oh i totally agree that bith barry and bush want to border open and barry will work to get it....everyone thinks its the mexican labor that we need to control, thats BS, they will always come and go.

We have all seen it, the border checkpoints are a joke and serve as no deterent for the most part, yea they get some dumb mexican on his 1st trip , but he will be back and smarter....BUT, the real issue is those from the middle east and japan and china, they get through more then they get stopped.

Beyond the appove is the drug trade, the border killings and kidnappings that happen down there that the media never covers is amazing what little coverage we get is just the higher profile stuff....And to be honest, as long as we as a society want their drugs, they will get them here......

If the U.S. were serious, we could close the border, but they aren't...all we need is the same type of fence that is built in israel...they won't cross that, maybe tunnel under, but it will cut the illegal crossings down more then the PTB really want to.....
 

chefdennis

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Acorn is becoming nothing on the voter registration front.... now that barry as made them legit with millions of tax dollars they are working on the inside...don't hold me to it, but i think it was GA. or maybe ALA that just last week said ANYONE can register to vote and they can NOT be asked to provide ID at all....that was an Acorn case........

As i said in the healthcare thread, our constitution is dead...on sooo many fronts the american people just don't care, they have become the welfare state the liberals all wanted...the sheeple want the government to take care of them. And in doing so, our country and constitution have been taken away....no more is a man responciable to take care and provide for his family...the government will fix it.......

Hey anyone see the new I-phone that came out yesterday!?1/:rolleyes:
 

greg334

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actually Chef, the biggest issue for me outside of the crime that travels here, is the slave trade issue. I won't say what I know of it, but it is a real problem and a real issue that is allowed when the border is open like it is.

SO my reply for those who say something along that I am racist for wanting a closed border is simply that they support modern day slavery.
 

layoutshooter

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Greg, it would not surprise me if some of our lawmakers are not taking advantage of that slave trade themselves.
 

chefdennis

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Greg, i can't pretend to have much information on the slave trade that is going on down there, but I have to believe that the kidnapping that happen on an ongoing basis has alot to do with it, so yes i can understand your position with the knowledge that you have.............as for the charge of racism, screw it...
 
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