Voters say Washington is worse than Wall St

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
What Turtle said above is what I've been saying for a couple years now: people [like THawk] don't need to know the details to know when we're being screwed - it's pretty obvy when management pay climbs to over 400x workers pay, [if they're fortunate enough to have a job], while working people just keep falling further behind, the banks get bailed out with our money after being stupendously stupid in their policies & practices, [but they're 'too big to fail'], local, state, and federal governments routinely trim & eliminate services to taxpayers while throwing tax breaks and incentives at corporations - the list goes on and on and on.
Obama got elected because people wanted all that to CHANGE - never mind whether he did it, [or could do it], it's what the people want - and those who didn't and don't 'get it' can make all the cracks they like, but it's not jealousy or class warfare or laziness - it's longstanding rage at the betrayal of trust, and it isn't going away.

My problem isn't with the CEO pay. As far as I'm concerned, they're getting paid market rate, if you can believe that. My problem is the corruption, collusion, fraud, brought about by the unholy union of big business, banks, and government, in order to turn the population into mindless drones who wouldn't know liberty if it bit them in the rear. CEO pay is down on my list of priorities... it's not that I don't know about it; it's that I don't particularly care about it.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
That's it. No different than the hollywood crowd or sports figures. All of that is market driven.
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
One could make the argument that the protesters are using the same information to fullfill a agenda are they not?
Sure. And they are. It's like the Boston Tea Party. The agenda was tea and taxes, but that's not what it was about. There were countless other protest back then, many with wildly varying agendas, but they and the Boston Tea Party were really about the frustrations of liberty lost, of lost hope and of increased despair. The current Tea Partiers, the protesters, the election of Obama, and many other events in the weeks, months and years to come will also be about the same thing, despite them having individually different details that are presented to us by those in power (and those who support them) in easily digestible sound bites.

I understand people are fed up with many things, but what did they expect when they elected a Chicago politician?
They expected anything NOT the Establishment. That's why Obama trounced Hilary in the primaries, not because he was a liberal, but because she represented the same Establishment that has gotten us to where we are. People expected what he promised, Hope and Change. Of course, they didn't realize that he was also a part of that Establishment, part and parcel, and are only now beginning to realize why he failed utterly to deliver any change at all.

And yet they still support him and want him to be elected again.
Not as many as you'd think. Many are disillusioned with him now. Still, unless an alternative to the NOT Establishment presents itself, they'll stick with the least objectionable alternative. In any case, this is not something that will happen overnight. It'll be just like the hundreds and thousands of events leading up to the Boston Tea Party, and the countless events between that and out independence. It's a slow process.

Until there is structural change, you are going to see more of the same.
Of that we can be sure. Those in power are afraid of that, too. Have you seen the wide angle shots of the NY protest, where there is an army of police there, enough to put down a full-blown riot. They've got police vans and armed RVs, the whole works. They're afraid, and they want to stop this before it escalates. But they won't be able to. History, and human nature proves that.

And, as those charts clearly show, a global economy is going to continue to change things regardless of anything that happens here. Protests and the like aren't going to change that any time soon.
Not any time soon. But what it happening here and the global economy are intimately intertwined, one feeding off the other. Like I said, it won't happen overnight, but it'll happen. We may not be alive when it finally comes to fruition, but it will happen. It always does.
 

clcooper

Expert Expediter
We should just EXTERMINATE the protesters. because they dont know what they are doing

We should just EXTERMINATE all that are on Welfare and Unemployment . because they are just lazy people .

We should just EXTERMINATE all that lost thier homes because they werent RESPONSIBLE enough .

We should just EXTERMINATE anybody just because they are differanent then you are .

All people on Welfare and Unemployment should go buy Cargo Vans . And then All Expedite Companies should hire every Cargo Van they can . .

History cant repeat itself any more . WE are smarter now LOL

Vote for Bugsy Seigel in 2012
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
A little over the top there ...

By the way, if you are going to promote someone for president, use their real name.
 
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