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The misconception to which I refer had zero to do with the difference between boys & girls. Nada. And those differences have zero to do with the subject, either. And I seriously doubt any of those random thoughts that kept my granddaughter from completing tasks would have led to a cure for cancer, as she was 7 years old."Control their thoughts"? Not at all: just help them to control the behavior that prevents them and everyone else from learning anything in class. "Chemicals and kids don't mix"? Tell that to the kids with leukemia! ADD/HD is NOT about drugging kids who can't sit still, and I feel sorry for the kids who would benefit from the medication if their parents weren't so ignorant about it. I also feel sorry for all the other kids in the class who can't focus on learning. And I REALLY feel sorry for the teachers who have to deal with the problems in their classrooms, too.
We had 56 in my classroom, ONE ROOM, all the way from 2nd grade through 8th grade. Kids were no different then than they are now. We were expected to behave, both by the teachers and our parents. We did. We also had SEVERAL recess periods, more when younger, each day, as well as a "gym" class. We called it "gym" even though there was no gym in our grade school. I never attended a school with a gym until high school.
You cannot compare the use of chemicals for leukemia and ADD/ADHD. No one dies from ADD/ADHD.
Why is it that ADD/ADHD are out there? Why do they appear to be increasing? Why were there no problems like that when we were in school? Did these things exist and were not recognized? If so, why is it that the teachers back then could control VERY large classes WITHOUT drugs? It is not making sense. If it is new to mankind, what brought it on? Is it environmental? Is it due to changes in how kids are raised prior to going to school? Has the human brain suddenly lost the ability to control itself?
And when the parents don't hear it they move on to another doctor and another and get the kids on meds. There are plenty of children on meds that are nothing more than high energy kids without enough energy release. That was the point being made, and correctly.
It's called RESPECT. Most of us respected the teacher, our parents respected the teacher, etc.etc.etc. Nowadays the parents can't be bothered.
We were taught respect. Respect of self is just as important. That in it self leads to proper behavior under most circumstances. Many today have no idea about respect of any kind. You are correct, many parents today don't bother to teach it, or anything else for that matter.
Apparently it has. Consider this behavioral disorder called O.D.D. - Oppositional Defiant Disorder.
"ODD is a condition in which a child displays an ongoing pattern of uncooperative, defiant, hostile, and annoying behavior toward people in authority. The child's behavior often disrupts the child's normal daily activities, including activities within the family and at school...
Symptoms of ODD may include:
- Throwing repeated temper tantrums
- Excessively arguing with adults
- Actively refusing to comply with requests and rules
- Deliberately trying to annoy or upset others, or being easily annoyed by others
- Blaming others for your mistakes
- Having frequent outbursts of anger and resentment
- Being spiteful and seeking revenge
- Swearing or using obscene language
- Saying mean and hateful things when upset
Mental Health: Oppositional Defiant Disorder
The reason I'm bringing this up is because it perfectly describes my 5 year-old grandson. I've witnessed first hand his display of every one of the above listed symptoms. His tantrums are animalistic, he physically attacks my daughter (who is 5'1" & 105 lbs) who likely won't be able to physically control him by this time next year. Spankings mean nothing to him. Neither does "time out" or withdrawal of privileges such as video games, etc. Last week he was confined to his room for 10 min and while he was in "time out" he tore his closet door off it's hinges - a 32" solid wood, six panel door. For some reason my daughter and son-in-law refuse to take this kid to a mental health expert in spite of having been told by their pediatrician and everyone else who knows him well that he needs professional help before he's totally out of control. Honestly, I've never seen any kid like this in my life, but articles like the one linked above say O.D.D. is fairly common now. Hopefully my daughter and son-in-law will soon be able to get past their perceived stigma of psychiatric treatment before he's chasing his mother with a kitchen knife or tears down their house.
Maybe we're already seeing the consequences of letting children like this grow up without treatment: teenagers that beat to death 88 year-old men or shoot down innocent bystanders for the fun of it. Sound familiar?
Apparently it has. Consider this behavioral disorder called O.D.D. - Oppositional Defiant Disorder.
"ODD is a condition in which a child displays an ongoing pattern of uncooperative, defiant, hostile, and annoying behavior toward people in authority. The child's behavior often disrupts the child's normal daily activities, including activities within the family and at school...
Symptoms of ODD may include:
In addition, many children with ODD are moody, easily frustrated, and have a low self-esteem. They also sometimes may abuse drugs and alcohol."
- Throwing repeated temper tantrums
- Excessively arguing with adults
- Actively refusing to comply with requests and rules
- Deliberately trying to annoy or upset others, or being easily annoyed by others
- Blaming others for your mistakes
- Having frequent outbursts of anger and resentment
- Being spiteful and seeking revenge
- Swearing or using obscene language
- Saying mean and hateful things when upset
Mental Health: Oppositional Defiant Disorder
The reason I'm bringing this up is because it perfectly describes my 5 year-old grandson. I've witnessed first hand his display of every one of the above listed symptoms. His tantrums are animalistic, he physically attacks my daughter (who is 5'1" & 105 lbs) who likely won't be able to physically control him by this time next year. Spankings mean nothing to him. Neither does "time out" or withdrawal of privileges such as video games, etc. Last week he was confined to his room for 10 min and while he was in "time out" he tore his closet door off it's hinges - a 32" solid wood, six panel door. For some reason my daughter and son-in-law refuse to take this kid to a mental health expert in spite of having been told by their pediatrician and everyone else who knows him well that he needs professional help before he's totally out of control. Honestly, I've never seen any kid like this in my life, but articles like the one linked above say O.D.D. is fairly common now. Hopefully my daughter and son-in-law will soon be able to get past their perceived stigma of psychiatric treatment before he's chasing his mother with a kitchen knife or tears down their house.
Maybe we're already seeing the consequences of letting children like this grow up without treatment: teenagers that beat to death 88 year-old men or shoot down innocent bystanders for the fun of it. Sound familiar?
That is very much beyond the "normal" ADD/ADHD.
Why is it becoming more common? I know there are kids like that, though I have never seen one. I have no problem with treatment of phychiatric disorders. I have a problem with drugging kids to make them conform in the class room.
I can bet you dollars to donkeys I would have been drugged if I was a kid today. So would most of the boys I was in school with.
Bull doody! A good swat on tush when needed will do wonders!
The behavioral differences are in intensity and the lack of respect for adult authority. I started school in the early 1950s and we were all rowdy to a certain extent, but we knew where the lines were that we didn't cross. But kids like my grandson don't see the lines and would not have been tolerated in public schools back then; he would have been sent to reform school.
Not with this kid; I've seen my son-in-law give him a really good whacking on more than one occasion, and it has no effect. It's strange to watch a 4 or 5 year-old take a good licking and turn around and to the same thing for which he got punished just to show his defiance.
I have read this and hear some on the radio about it. I have yet to hear, or read, anything as to why this is becoming common.
I too went to school in the '50's. We did "normal" boy stuff. Things that boys have been doing since school was invented. Our "playground" was a parking lot and an open field. LOTS of "boy stuff" to monkey with. Snakes, mice, bugs, all just waiting to be caught and released in the class room. I was WONDERFUL fun to hear the girls scream, except for Suzy Seidleman, she helped us.
We would get in trouble, of course, behave till overwhelmed, then do it again. We would have NEVER even thought about doing what some of these kids do today.
In high school we did bring our guns in our cars with us. Why? Some donkey brain always put school time during hunting season. SO, we brought our hunting stuff, guns, shells, everything and as soon as the prison let us out we drove out to hunt rabbits and birds. No one used them on people. There were fights then too. They stayed "normal". A few punches thrown, then off to Burger King when it was over, loser buys.
You were able to drive to H.S.? WOW!
We had to walk barefoot, in the snow, uphill both ways.
You were able to drive to H.S.? WOW!
We had to walk barefoot, in the snow, uphill both ways.
Not till my junior year and ONLY if I bought the gas and paid my own insurance. We did not have hills in Riverview. As to snow, from the day I started school to when I left high school I had a total of 3 snow days. One for a broken boiler too. No heat in the school that day. We did not miss ANYTHING like they do today. Our limit back then for missing school was 10" I did ice skate to school several time when we had our famous SE Michigan ice storms.
The majority of kids out there are still respectful good kids that will grow up and contribute to society. Many of them will even grow up to complain about the youth of the future and rant on about how perfect things were we they were young.
The constant stroke of the wide brush gets really boring.
Sent from my Fisher Price ABC-123.
The constant stroke of the wide brush gets really boring.
Sent from my Fisher Price ABC-123.
The problems with kids, ADHD and teachers promoting Ritalin are complex, yet at the same time fairly simple. The official association of headshrinkers have expanded the definition of ADHD to include literally normal behavior. They have also expanded the diagnosis to include preschool children. They do this because they have a financial incentive to do so, both in terms of their own practices but in terms of the money they get from the makers of drugs such as Ritalin. Teachers are, by and large, big fans of anything that will calm and sedate children in the classroom to make the kids more easily controllable.
Diagnoses of ADHD and of Ritalin prescriptions have increased more than 400% in the last decade. Ninety percent of the world's Ritalin is prescribed in the United States. In 1970 there were 150,000 Ritalin prescriptions written. In 1980 there were 400,000. In 1990, 900,000. In 2000 it jumped to 2 million. In 2010 it was 8 million.
The 2000-2001 guidelines released by the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Psychiatric Association restricted the use of Ritalin to children aged 6-12 years old. The new recommendations of 2010 expand the "targeted group" to 4-18 years old, and with recommendations that children as young as 3 are fine to use the drug. Combine the expanded age groups for Ritalin with the massively expanded criteria for being diagnosed with ADHD, and the desire for parents and teachers to find a way to calm down their kids, along with the desire of pharmaceutical companies to rake profits, and you can see how more than 8 million prescriptions can happen, for something that probably should only be prescribed maybe 100,000 times a year.
There's a reason the current generation of kids are called "The Ritalin Generation," and it's not because people are misinformed about the situation. It's because they are.
The New York Times - Raising the Ritalin Generation
Diagnoses of ADHD and of Ritalin prescriptions have increased more than 400% in the last decade. Ninety percent of the world's Ritalin is prescribed in the United States. In 1970 there were 150,000 Ritalin prescriptions written. In 1980 there were 400,000. In 1990, 900,000. In 2000 it jumped to 2 million. In 2010 it was 8 million.
The 2000-2001 guidelines released by the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Psychiatric Association restricted the use of Ritalin to children aged 6-12 years old. The new recommendations of 2010 expand the "targeted group" to 4-18 years old, and with recommendations that children as young as 3 are fine to use the drug. Combine the expanded age groups for Ritalin with the massively expanded criteria for being diagnosed with ADHD, and the desire for parents and teachers to find a way to calm down their kids, along with the desire of pharmaceutical companies to rake profits, and you can see how more than 8 million prescriptions can happen, for something that probably should only be prescribed maybe 100,000 times a year.
There's a reason the current generation of kids are called "The Ritalin Generation," and it's not because people are misinformed about the situation. It's because they are.
The New York Times - Raising the Ritalin Generation
Yep, because anything the teachers do to try and discipline the kids is met with resistance by their own school board now as they are afraid of lawsuits.
The teachers won't stick their necks out anymore because the school board will not back them and will hang them out to dry in the event of any disciplinary action initiated by the teacher.
When I used to do bus charters, the behaviour difference was night and day between the public school kids vs the private schools. why? Because the teachers wouldn't think twice about disciplining problem students and the headmaster was someone to actually be feared, unlike the principles in the public school system.
It get's even better! Now, in certain areas of the country, people need not prove that they need assistance to get free school meals, the Dept of AG is just GIVING food away to any kid who want's it! Pretty free with our money I would say. Trillions in debt and we give away tax payer dollars with NO NEED REQUIREMENTS!
[h=1]Family income not a factor as students eat free[/h]
Family income not a factor as students eat free
[h=1]Family income not a factor as students eat free[/h]
Family income not a factor as students eat free
Then, of course, is the NEXT obvious step, REQUIRING that all students eat government approved lunches, banning ALL home packed lunches and forbidding students from going off school grounds to get lunch. Do you think that is a bit of a stretch? Read below. Socialism run wild. It is called total control.
Banning packed lunches and free school dinners for all recommended in top-level review - Mirror Online
'For and against': should packed lunches be banned in favour of school dinners? | This is Bristol
BBC News - Ban packed lunches, head teachers urged
Plymouth headteachers urged to ban packed lunches | This is Plymouth
Banning packed lunches and free school dinners for all recommended in top-level review - Mirror Online
'For and against': should packed lunches be banned in favour of school dinners? | This is Bristol
BBC News - Ban packed lunches, head teachers urged
Plymouth headteachers urged to ban packed lunches | This is Plymouth
This is just an offshoot of the govt taking control of our health care. God forbid that kids eat the same thing at school that they eat at home. Big gulp drinks have already been banned in NYC. Maybe the next step is to control what kinds of food can be sold in grocery stores or grown in one's own personal garden. ObamaCare can be expanded through its regulations to affect anything the govt wants. People who consume sugar will soon be treated the same as those who use tobacco.