And whats wrong with 2 PT jobs? especially if that is all that is available...
USA - Food Stamp Nation
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And whats wrong with 2 PT jobs? especially if that is all that is available...
clcooper
Expert Expediter
us your business sense and sit down and figure it out . budget 2 pt jobs at 8$ hr
mcavoy33
Seasoned Expediter
40 hrs @ 8 hr = $320
20 hrs @ 8 hr = 160
20 hrs @ 8 hr = 160
$320
I think those are the same pay. What does it matter if its from 2 employers instead of one?
Tennesseahawk
Veteran Expediter
Especially when food has gone up 30% in the last two years. If you drive 15 miles to work, forget it. It's becoming increasingly harder to survive on $8/hr; and a lot of people are just learning how to do it. If she's determined, she'll find some charity soup kitchens to help take the sting out of her food budget.
paullud
Veteran Expediter
The advantage of 2 part-time jobs is she could work 40 hours or she could even work 26 hours @ 9.72 and work another job for 20-30 hours. I think it is much better this way so that you can still work the hours you need but get a break from the job and get to do something else for part of the week.
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paullud
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Where did you read she is making $8/hr? It says she is making $9.72 and working 26 hours. If she decided to stop living off of others she could work a job for 30 hours even if it did only pay $8/hr she will be making about $500/week. Oh and she lives with her mom so I don't understand how $250 is covering her anyway.
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to get a part time job is not feesable. and for the woman in the article it would cause more child care and then child services would say she is gone to much and tell her she is not a good mother. I have seen this in reality with a female friend who tried everything to stay off the rolls.Get a second job.
My wife has 2, want one?
paullud
Veteran Expediter
Did you miss the part that says she lives with her mom? She isn't paying anything for child care. There is no way child protective services is getting involved over a mother working full time hours, that is just complete garbage. Well if she was working 40 hours a week as a crack dealer they might show some concern, there is way, way, way more to your "real life" story.
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Tennesseahawk
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Someone else brought up $8/hr, so I was running with that. Besides, 9.72 in CA is more like 7.00 in the midwest.
Yep... she could pay for food. But what about gas? What about insurance? Even tho she lives at her mom's, she mentioned she still pays rent and utilities.
OVM mentions wanting to get 1.00/mi again. Well how's that workin for ya? Especially now that that sub-dollar doesn't stretch as far as it used to.
I don't like the idea of these people going to the government to be able to survive. But survival is what it comes down to. Most are not proud to get food stamps. Just think of what it's like having to go to the soup kitchens. Still tho... you gotta swallow your pride and do what it takes to make it.
paullud
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No not really, the cost of living is comparable in CA and NY where I am from. We both pay more in things like sales tax and gas but she isn't paying for much other than that. Please don't forget to include her "I'm an irresponsible person" money, better known as EIC, into her salary.
Yes she says she pays her mom rent, I am sure it has nothing to do with proving how hard she is trying or maybe to qualify for more food stamps. Do you really think she can only pay for food with a $1k a month? Where is she eating? She lives and works in the same place so what is she using in gas $8/day working 4 days a week, insurance $100/month and that is assuming she has a car.
The people like this aren't making it though, they have given up and taken the easiest way out possible. The other glaring omission in this "article" is something from Walmart saying she has tried to get more hours but we just don't have them. How do we know she even attempted this? I can tell you it doesn't match up with my experience working for Walmart. She could also be stuck on part-time because she is on the verge of getting fired because she is the worst employee.
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Tennesseahawk
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I know... always think the worst... especially if they're on the dole. Like I said... some people in here are crotchety old men sometimes.
paullud
Veteran Expediter
I'm not old, I am 31. I am just looking at the facts, the article was written as nothing more than an advertisement for food stamps. The writer never bothered to do the most basic research on top of the fact she for some reason needed to write about Pico Rivera, CA but she is based out of NY. The subject of the article has to be capable to a degree given the fact she supervises other cashiers so this would mean she could get another job in retail. Just go to indeed.com and do a search for her city with retail as a keyword, there are thousands of jobs available in retail and over 64k jobs available in her area. This is not some down on her luck mother, this is a lazy and irresponsible person that should be forced to work for her food stamps.
She is a perfect example of our society self destructing and others feeling bad for her when they should be mad. I really don't see an issue with food stamps being given out as an emergency but she is clearly not almost homeless or starving.
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Get a second job.
My wife has 2, want one?
Wow! Are my eyes deceiving me. Looks like Hawk and I switched sides.
paullud
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Wow! Are my eyes deceiving me. Looks like Hawk and I switched sides.
Its bizarro EO world.
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Working 2 jobs sounds pretty simple - if you're not the one who is trying to do it. Part time jobs are 'entry level' - read: a dime a dozen, "you don't like it, there's the door, and send in your replacement from the many waiting". Those jobs don't include any flexibility in days or hours scheduled - you work what works for them, not you, so forget asking for days and/or hours that allow you to work another job - it ain't happening.
The woman in the article lives with Mom, but how many don't have a reliable sitter? Or a car, which sure helps when you need to get from one job to another.
First it was all about how people 'don't want to work', [but they are working!] so now it's 'they can work 2 jobs' - what kind of society have we become?!
The kind that dismisses the people who want to support themselves, but can't, because the jobs just don't pay enough. Because the decisionmakers decided to increase profits [more money for themselves] by eliminating the jobs, or making them part time to save money on benefits [a WalMart tactic that really caught on] and nobody is angry about the incompetent people who are paid millions, just the ones who have to be humiliated to pay bills and feed their kids.
We've become the society of "I got mine, yours is not my problem."
How sad.
The woman in the article lives with Mom, but how many don't have a reliable sitter? Or a car, which sure helps when you need to get from one job to another.
First it was all about how people 'don't want to work', [but they are working!] so now it's 'they can work 2 jobs' - what kind of society have we become?!
The kind that dismisses the people who want to support themselves, but can't, because the jobs just don't pay enough. Because the decisionmakers decided to increase profits [more money for themselves] by eliminating the jobs, or making them part time to save money on benefits [a WalMart tactic that really caught on] and nobody is angry about the incompetent people who are paid millions, just the ones who have to be humiliated to pay bills and feed their kids.
We've become the society of "I got mine, yours is not my problem."
How sad.
clcooper
Expert Expediter
now take the taxes off
then houseing
heat
electric
gas for car .
heath incurnce
co pay for doctor visits
oh right she doesnt have any benefits
now some to put back for retirement .
colthing for child
child care .
oh she will have to do repairs to stuff to . and she may not be able to do it her self so she has to hire somebody to do it . wonder if they will do it for 4$ dollors a hour .
now take off food .
she should just out to the yard and cut the grass to make salads .
i dont care who you are try to live on 8$ dollor hour jobs with a family . i wonder why alot of people dont go to college .
20,000 to 40,000 just for class at YTI. yep people on 8, 10 ,12 $ hour jobs can afford to go there in their free time .
i hope they raise gas to 10$ a gollon .
great that you support obama care so much .
keep saying worker dont need benefits . is same as you saying they can get on obama care
paullud
Veteran Expediter
I'm not sure which companies you are talking about but stores like Wal-Mart, Kmart, Target, gas stations, etc. have always asked what hours/days you can work when the application is filled out or in an interview. I have never ever seen it not happen on any of the applications I have filled out, there might be a couple but they are the exception to the rule. I worked at Wal-Mart for awhile and I guess things have changed because they used to beg people to go to full time. The turnover rates are so high that they work within your scheduling availability, there was one guy that worked 12 hours a week while he was in college and others that worked 36-40 hours week.
The problem is our government needs to say so what, you made a bad choice now deal with it. This does not mean that the people should do the same, we can help those in need but it should be by my choice. I always tip well because I feel that waiters/waitresses are under paid and usually under tipped, but that is my choice. The government is not only taking away our freedoms they are taking away consequences for bad choices.
The real issue for me is that we are becoming a society that says don't try just take from people that work harder. If you think expecting people to work 50 hours a week is inhumane do you also support not having taxes on people that work 50 hours or more. We can always just tax those that work 40 hours or less and make a lot of money, the tax base will be knocked down to a couple dozen people. I have worked 2 jobs, I was also a full time college student and worked full time, talk about a rough schedule, I am not bragging but the point is I am still alive. I did not want to be stuck working a job that I hated or stuck working long hours so I changed course and set myself up after I paid my dues working jobs I hated.
I don't think there are any incompetent people getting paid millions, they have worked hard and sacrificed to get to where they are. Now some might of had it easier than others but it takes a tremendous amount of work and dedication to remain in a position to make millions. What is so wrong with having consequences for dumb choices?
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tbubster
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I love how everyone is an expert on wal-mart.They do in fact offer part time workers benefits.The catch you have to have one year in befor you can start reciving them.Also yes they do ask you what hours you can and can not work.At most retail jobs even with the large national chains the weekly work schedule is is done at the location makeing it more flexible.Thats not saying the are not some companys that when they say they need a part time 2nd shift that they are gonna let you work days.Some times night mean nights,and days means days!
here is a link of just some of the companys that do in fact offer benefits to part time workers
Part Time Jobs with Benefits | LoveToKnow
For every way to make it with out the AID that is pointed out, there is an excuse as to why it wont work Yet there are millions of people who with out the aid that seem to make it work just fine.I belive that far to many people will not take part time work because they feel it is below them,not the hours but the jobs themselfs.
Please notice I neither called anyone lazy nor did I call them scum.
here is a link of just some of the companys that do in fact offer benefits to part time workers
Part Time Jobs with Benefits | LoveToKnow
For every way to make it with out the AID that is pointed out, there is an excuse as to why it wont work Yet there are millions of people who with out the aid that seem to make it work just fine.I belive that far to many people will not take part time work because they feel it is below them,not the hours but the jobs themselfs.
Please notice I neither called anyone lazy nor did I call them scum.
paullud
Veteran Expediter
Did you want me to do it for you?
JK. That was my point about people being spoiled, they think they are better than a certain type of job so they never try for it. There are so many misconceptions about places like Walmart and how they are an evil company out to stick it to the little guy but that is because they never worked there, Walmart was one of if not the first big company to extend it's benefit program to the partner in a gay relationship. They had to give that up after planned boycotts and negative press but it was done by Walmart to help employees. Posted with my Droid EO Forum App
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