US Supreme Court allows anti-gay military funeral protests

[greg334]

Actually Leo, his explanation is just the tip of a very big and complex iceberg.

There are things that many just can't understand even if it is explained to them and one is the duality of some major parts of the religion and how the issues are handled within.

It is like the reasoning behind his other comment that the Muslim world views the US military as a crusading military. Many don't get how that fits into the problems we have with many who don't look at this as a religious war. The resolution isn't forcing our idea of what their religion should be like but understanding how it can fit in for those who don't take the violent path within it.

The problem with most of us who can't/don't/won't want to explore why there are issues between these three religions has to do with the unwillingness to both examine someone own beliefs and shed some of the preconceived notions they have in order to understand other's and how they think.

 

[layoutshooter]

There is one big difference between "them" and "us". If we packed up and went home today "they" would NOT stop. "They" would continue to expand, where ever and when ever "they" could. Into Europe if "they" could get away with it. IF "they" would just stay home and only kill their own people, in their own countries it would be OK. That is NOT what "they" are after.

OK, let's just go home. Where are we going to put the refugees that flee the mess that is coming? Where will we say, STOP? Will there be a line?

It is easy to say understand, fine, understand why. In the end, no matter what we understand we are still likely to have to fight them somewhere.

 

[greg334]

There is one big difference between "them" and "us". If we packed up and went home today "they" would NOT stop. "They" would continue to expand, where ever and when ever "they" could. Into Europe if "they" could get away with it. IF "they" would just stay home and only kill their own people, in their own countries it would be OK. That is NOT what "they" are after.

Pack up and went home from where?

Europe?

Asia?

The middle east?

I understand the premise but your idea that "we" are stopping anything seems to be a bit off.

OK, let's just go home. Where are we going to put the refugees that flee the mess that is coming? Where will we say, STOP? Will there be a line?

Why do We have to accept any 'refugees' in the first place. If "We" leave say Europe, there is nothing we could do anyways because it is a European problem to begin with, not ours.

We can't tell them how to treat people, one of the biggest issues they have there is still with the colonial mindset that those coming into the country are inferior. If you want details, just see what France has done to rectify their issues with the Moroccans.

It is easy to say understand, fine, understand why. In the end, no matter what we understand we are still likely to have to fight them somewhere.

Fight who?

See you are assuming that the world would be in flames if "we" don't do anything but this seems to be a rather arrogant mindset and one of the issues I can see what has caused a lot of problems. As Turtle pointed out, the Muslims are already viewing us and our military as crusaders, which regardless how you put the American spin on it, it is actually somewhat a valid point and one of many causes for those disenfranchised to not like us.

I think if Europe folds under the pressure, it is their own undoing. If they fight there, and we join the fight, we have to be careful in making sure we are actually fighting for a good cause with the result that will not put us in the cross hairs with them later on, which has happened since the 60's.

 

[layoutshooter]

No spin. DO a Ron Paul. Bring 100% of our troops home from EVERYWHERE! Do NOT intervene anywhere for ANY reason. Seal our borders. Then wait. It will only be a matter of time.

You can believe what ever you choose. I think you are dead wrong. We already know what China is doing in Burma, Tibet etc. That will expand. Russia will go back to their old ways. They are backing the "official" government of Libya right now.

How many times has a football team put up the "prevent defense"? The results from that thinking often backfires.