this company claims no chargebacks and miles for trucks its all lies and when i quit the owner jerry tells me to get a lwyer ahole and hangs up on me i had 2 trucks with them in 3 weeks we disd 6 loads between the 2 of us plus the charge u for the decals to advertise their name bunch of crooks}> }> }>
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rode2rouen
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What Co. were you with before TranStewart?
Rex
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rollnthunder
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>this company claims no chargebacks and miles for trucks its
>all lies and when i quit the owner jerry tells me to get a
>lwyer ahole and hangs up on me i had 2 trucks with them in
>3 weeks we disd 6 loads between the 2 of us plus the charge
>u for the decals to advertise their name bunch of crooks}>
>}> }>
Well i can tell you that express-1 also charges for decals plus qualcom install plus dot inspect plus dot physical plus deposit on qualcom.So my point is express-1 and i think most companies charge for the decals.
>all lies and when i quit the owner jerry tells me to get a
>lwyer ahole and hangs up on me i had 2 trucks with them in
>3 weeks we disd 6 loads between the 2 of us plus the charge
>u for the decals to advertise their name bunch of crooks}>
>}> }>
Well i can tell you that express-1 also charges for decals plus qualcom install plus dot inspect plus dot physical plus deposit on qualcom.So my point is express-1 and i think most companies charge for the decals.
I'm just kinda wonder'in how many load you guys might have turned down during thos three weeks you didn't make any money. Really, i'm just wonder'in what the rest of the story is. You been with two carriers already, how long you been in the business?? Do you have toy trucks, campers or, money making trucks?? Seems you left some info out in this very short 
session. Seems for most problems we have, we gotta look in the mirror.
session. Seems for most problems we have, we gotta look in the mirror.
But you were only there for two weeks. That simply isn't enough time to give a carrier.
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Well put, Col.
it was long enough to get pretty far in debt if i stayed any longer to make little to no money id lost everything its the attitude jerry took after quiting that tells me what kind of place / people they are you all can say what u want think what u want but untill u try youl never know this whole thing was to say that what they claim on their article on eo and there web site is complete bs both of my trucks didnt one thing they say come true atleast one of his lies should have happened in 3 weeks
I usually don't jump in here and defend companies, but I talk to a lot of drivers. No Trans Stewart driver I've ever talked to has ever come close to your little explosion. One just the other night said that tho they weren't the highest paying, they sure were keeping him busy.
You've been in business for 2 years.... and a slow period of 3 weeks put you in debt so far you would have lost everything? I would think if you'd been in business that long, you would be in good enough condition not to be bankrupt by a few bad weeks... no matter WHAT company. That's just good business practice.
I quote Jerry in the article:"At Trans Stewart , we treat our owner-operators as the true independent businesspeople they are."
As others have said, you have to get used to a company, and they to you. Three weeks is not enough time to make a decision.
quote:"We don't have back charges and that means no fuel tax back charges, no hidden insurance fees , no paperwork fees, Qualcomm, satellite, cell phone fees or anything like that."
He never says anything about you not having to pay for the decals. Most other companies have quite a bit of charges to sign on.... and As far as I know every company charges you for having the decals put on.
It's not free for them. Why should they put them on a truck (or 2) for free, when those trucks might just up an leave in, oh.. say 3 weeks.. and they're out the cost of decals, plus cost of orientation, time involved in getting them hired on, permit costs, insurance costs. That might just irritate a company owner.. I"m thinking...
What you say might be true, but, as Paul Harvey says, it would be interesting to hear the rest of the story. I'm thinking there's more here than meets the eye.
Just my 2
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You've been in business for 2 years.... and a slow period of 3 weeks put you in debt so far you would have lost everything? I would think if you'd been in business that long, you would be in good enough condition not to be bankrupt by a few bad weeks... no matter WHAT company. That's just good business practice.
I quote Jerry in the article:"At Trans Stewart , we treat our owner-operators as the true independent businesspeople they are."
As others have said, you have to get used to a company, and they to you. Three weeks is not enough time to make a decision.
quote:"We don't have back charges and that means no fuel tax back charges, no hidden insurance fees , no paperwork fees, Qualcomm, satellite, cell phone fees or anything like that."
He never says anything about you not having to pay for the decals. Most other companies have quite a bit of charges to sign on.... and As far as I know every company charges you for having the decals put on.
It's not free for them. Why should they put them on a truck (or 2) for free, when those trucks might just up an leave in, oh.. say 3 weeks.. and they're out the cost of decals, plus cost of orientation, time involved in getting them hired on, permit costs, insurance costs. That might just irritate a company owner.. I"m thinking...
What you say might be true, but, as Paul Harvey says, it would be interesting to hear the rest of the story. I'm thinking there's more here than meets the eye.
Just my 2
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davebeckym
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I've been expediting for five years and this has been a very slow year. I'd be blaming the economy, not the carrier. This time last year I was getting a lot of runs up north (MI). This year nothing, so I have to go where the freight is, Detroit.
Also, areas that are good for some companies are bad for others. I'd say it takes a good 6 months or more to learn how to work a new company. It costs money to change carriers and it costs money to learn too. I'd give it a few more months.
Go Blue!
Also, areas that are good for some companies are bad for others. I'd say it takes a good 6 months or more to learn how to work a new company. It costs money to change carriers and it costs money to learn too. I'd give it a few more months.
Go Blue!
I agree with giving some time, but how much is open to the O/O. I tried Rush Int'l and found it hard to make $1000/week. I lasted 4 months and quit as I found too many things wrong. First the accounting and tracking was a mess. Another driver who helped unload got all the money for a 100+ mile load and helping to unload, I got ZERO! Also any loads billed to the company paid the brokers a whopping ZERO! One month this mean't 8% of my loads were for nothing! Can't make money like that. Other drivers just started making decent money at their one year point. Sorry but that's too long to make a reasonable dollar.
Next company I tried I gave it a year as the money was a little better and the system was superior, but could not make the money I required. Made enough to pay bills and little else. This company though penalized the good brokers by keeping them around for the big customers with the problem loads going short distance and the better paying loads went to the poor drivers to get rid of them for a day or two so the dispatchers would only have quality to deal with. Nice!!! We get shafted with going into the core of a city for a handbomb load that the customer paid a rate 75% of the other customers or it was a flat rate call with no chance of extra billing for problems. They had a habit of not telling the driver all the problems, what was expected on a particular load until you were doing it.
All in all every company has problems and when it's slow it makes it worse. Every driver who is a newbie at a company has to prove themselves to the company and the dispatch as to their reliability, capability and quality of work and customer service. If you just expect the dispatch to give you calls without knowing you and how you handle things, think again about who is going to get the real good loads. First two months are a learning process for you and the company you're with. If you don't prove yourself in that time, shame on you!
Rob Fis
Next company I tried I gave it a year as the money was a little better and the system was superior, but could not make the money I required. Made enough to pay bills and little else. This company though penalized the good brokers by keeping them around for the big customers with the problem loads going short distance and the better paying loads went to the poor drivers to get rid of them for a day or two so the dispatchers would only have quality to deal with. Nice!!! We get shafted with going into the core of a city for a handbomb load that the customer paid a rate 75% of the other customers or it was a flat rate call with no chance of extra billing for problems. They had a habit of not telling the driver all the problems, what was expected on a particular load until you were doing it.
All in all every company has problems and when it's slow it makes it worse. Every driver who is a newbie at a company has to prove themselves to the company and the dispatch as to their reliability, capability and quality of work and customer service. If you just expect the dispatch to give you calls without knowing you and how you handle things, think again about who is going to get the real good loads. First two months are a learning process for you and the company you're with. If you don't prove yourself in that time, shame on you!
Rob Fis
goingbroke2
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bp4469 said it exactly. The place I signed on with, and the company that
advertises here under the name Transtewart, are pretty much two completely different companies.
advertises here under the name Transtewart, are pretty much two completely different companies.
My name is Jerry Stewart and I own TranStewart Trucking Inc. which has been the subject of quite a trashing by Darryn. I normally would not respond except that I will admit to getting a little emotional at my company (as well as myself personally) being called crooks. I therefore offer the following facts with regard to Darryn's two trucks and their history with TranStewart.
Fact 1: Both trucks were leased to us on 09/05/06.
Fact 2: Both trucks were taken out of service by their drivers on 09/16/06. Total time with TranStewart was 10 days.
Fact 3: The Tractor was in service during that time for only 3 days.
Fact 4: The straight truck was in service for the entire 10 days with the exception of legal down time requirements.
Fact 5: Gross revenue for tractor was $2320.54 and 1382 miles.
Fact 6: Gross revenue for straight was $3269.12 and 2561 miles.
Fact 7: Nowhere in our advertising is any claim that we do not charge for decaling. In fact, Darryn, during orientation signed an aggrement indicating his responsibility for 1/2 the cost. He was also verbally told this by myself personally. There were no objections.
Fact 8: Darryn has been in our business since 04/05. 1&1/2 yrs. During this time he has been employed by 3 companies.
Fact 9: Darryn's driver was employed in our business for approx 1 month at time of our orientation.
Fact 10: bp4469 who was a previous post on this site is Darryn's driver.
Fact 11: After his last load and after he quit, Darryn continued to charge fuel on the TranStewart fuel card.
My theory as to the motivation of these guys quitting is the fact that the straight truck sat about 24 hrs in Colorado without a load. That was the point when they became unreachable by dispatch and no more shipments were handled after.
In closing I would wish both Darryn and his driver well. I thing the problem here is simply a lack of understanding of expediting in specific and business in general. I hope that for them this can be a learning experience. Also, thanks to all readers and posters for being willing to consider both sides.
Be careful!!!
Jerry
Fact 1: Both trucks were leased to us on 09/05/06.
Fact 2: Both trucks were taken out of service by their drivers on 09/16/06. Total time with TranStewart was 10 days.
Fact 3: The Tractor was in service during that time for only 3 days.
Fact 4: The straight truck was in service for the entire 10 days with the exception of legal down time requirements.
Fact 5: Gross revenue for tractor was $2320.54 and 1382 miles.
Fact 6: Gross revenue for straight was $3269.12 and 2561 miles.
Fact 7: Nowhere in our advertising is any claim that we do not charge for decaling. In fact, Darryn, during orientation signed an aggrement indicating his responsibility for 1/2 the cost. He was also verbally told this by myself personally. There were no objections.
Fact 8: Darryn has been in our business since 04/05. 1&1/2 yrs. During this time he has been employed by 3 companies.
Fact 9: Darryn's driver was employed in our business for approx 1 month at time of our orientation.
Fact 10: bp4469 who was a previous post on this site is Darryn's driver.
Fact 11: After his last load and after he quit, Darryn continued to charge fuel on the TranStewart fuel card.
My theory as to the motivation of these guys quitting is the fact that the straight truck sat about 24 hrs in Colorado without a load. That was the point when they became unreachable by dispatch and no more shipments were handled after.
In closing I would wish both Darryn and his driver well. I thing the problem here is simply a lack of understanding of expediting in specific and business in general. I hope that for them this can be a learning experience. Also, thanks to all readers and posters for being willing to consider both sides.
Be careful!!!
Jerry
raceman
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Jerry, right or wrong thanks for telling the other side of the story. The trash talking just gets old.
As I say I have no idea which of you is telling the right story, in reality it is most likely somewhere in the middle. I just feel it helps when both sides are on the table.
Trash talking is not good among those of us who understand the business much less for those who are her looking to understand it or find a carrier to run or ride with.
Thanks for being a pro.
Raceman
OTR O/O
As I say I have no idea which of you is telling the right story, in reality it is most likely somewhere in the middle. I just feel it helps when both sides are on the table.
Trash talking is not good among those of us who understand the business much less for those who are her looking to understand it or find a carrier to run or ride with.
Thanks for being a pro.
Raceman
OTR O/O
well this is my last comment to this post fact is like jerry sais if the trucks grossed almost six grand and lets take out 2 thou for fuel that leaves 4 thousand the only checks iv seen from the guys is one for 260 dollars and 1 for 110 so wheres the other 3plus thousand that is fact and on paper maybe calling crooks was wrong and im man enough to apologise but we all say things when were ##### and i was after being called an ##### and hung up on and threatened by the owner of a comp exspeacialy when i had never said any neg names or acuzations to them prior to our phone conv enough said good luck safe driving
ps i never called in and went out of service prob a simple mis understanding with dispatch
ps i never called in and went out of service prob a simple mis understanding with dispatch