This takes the cake!

Coco

Seasoned Expediter
We were sitting at the Pilot in Priceville Al, close to Huntsville and overheard a driver complaining of being sick and needing to go home. His dispatcher insisted he deliver his freight the next morning before going home to Georgia.

After his freight was not delivered the next day, his company contacted Pilot to see if he had abandoned his truck.

He was found in his truck. He had passed away during the night.

What part of our lives is so unimportant that our own instincts are ignored?
 

tnt1271

Seasoned Expediter
That is a horrible way to go. In your truck..... But lets hope it was a blessing in disguise. What if he would have been driving and something happend. It could have hurt or even killed other drivers. Life is too short. I am always on the move, I cant sit still for a moment. My husband asked me one day "Do you think life is so short that you can't sit still" My answer was yes. He has never lost anyone close to him. Both his grandparents are even still alive. The only one I have left of my family is my brother. And may I say that I am fairly young (34). So my answer is yes life is too short to let it pass you by so dont take one second for granted.
 

hondaking38

Veteran Expediter
unfortunatly, it happens, however he should have seeked medical attention, ambulance ride always overides freight delivery...
 

x06col

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Retired Expediter
US Army
Certainly is a cake taker Coco. Can't imagine someone thinking "home" is the only place one can get medical attention when you obviously REALLY need it. It's very unfortuneate. The lining in this story, as others mentioned, is it's a good thing he wasn't going down the road in a 80,000lb sledgehammer at 60 mph and take [some] others out getting "home".
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
I am with Col here.

I had a problem last year with a slight kidney stone and knew I could have made it home if I really wanted to but no way would I be able to drive so there was a decision of either calling the big white taxi service or drive myself to the nearest hospital (not a doctors office).

The issue was not a load and even if I was loaded, I would not worry about the load but my worry I would have leaving my truck there at the truck stop and not knowing what would happen to me - so I drove the longest 2 miles of my life.

Screw the load, human life and safety always comes first.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
What part of our lives is so unimportant that our own instincts are ignored?

That is a profound question, Coco; one that every expediter should think about. I would further ask, what instincts do expediters have in a given situation?

If you are in the situation Coco describes, what would your instincts be? Are you reluctant to seek help because you see it as a sign of weakness? Are you determined to complete the load because you want to prove your reliability? Do you obey dispatch because you see dispatch as the authority figure and typically do what authority figures say? Do you keep the problems to yourself because you are reluctant to trouble and worry your people at home? Do you hope symptoms will go away because you cannot afford the copayment a clinic or hospital may charge? Do you convince yourself you are better off laying down to see if you feel better later, because not having health insurance feels worse now?

Team drivers have an edge in crisis situations. They have codrivers present to help them think things through when they may not be thinking clearly themselves.

If you are feeling ill and having symptoms you have never had before, a lot of thoughts will race through your mind as you try to figure out a circumstance that you have never encountered before.

Mental rehearsals of possible but not yet experienced situations can make a difference. Written plans and instructions for those who care about you that spell out your preparations for such situations are even better.

The U.S. Army calls them reaction drills (at least they did when I went through training). You specify a situation that you may run into in the future and plan your reaction ahead. It might be something like "React to a close ambush," "React to a meeting engagement (making unexpected contact with the enemy)," or "React to indirect fire (an artillery attack)."

I believe it would serve expediters very well to develop their own set of reaction drills, like:

-React to sudden illness while on the road
-React to an accident where you are seriously injured
-React to a crisis at home that requires your immediate return
-React to a truck breakdown in a remote area
-React to an accident where you are not injured but others are.
-React to a HAZMAT spill
-React to a truck breakdown in an unsafe neighborhood
-React to a tornado warning sounded at your location.
-React to a steer tire blowout that occurs at highway speeds.

There are many more scenarios. These are enough to get the idea across.
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
That is a terrible thing. It may have made no difference but the driver should have just informed dispatch he was ill and seeking medical treatment and then taken a taxi or ambulance to the nearest appropriate facility. It should be a lesson to everyone that personal health and safety supercedes everything else.
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Amen, Leo. (That's why I didn't think twice about sitting out the ice follies in Ky, a few days ago - no freight is worth risking your life. Situations that call for delays don't happen very often, so I felt no guilt about a late delivery, either.)
Speaking of feeling guilt - I hope the dispatcher and carrier involved are conscious of the guilt they bear, in the driver's unhappy death, and will never again "insist" that a driver keep going, after being informed that the driver feels it unwise to continue. They may not be guilty of a legal offense, but they showed their 'true colors' by placing a higher priority on the load, than the person trying to deal with it. Shame on them!

 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
I believe it would serve expediters very well to develop their own set of reaction drills, like:

-React to sudden illness while on the road
-React to an accident where you are seriously injured
-React to a crisis at home that requires your immediate return
-React to a truck breakdown in a remote area
-React to an accident where you are not injured but others are.
-React to a HAZMAT spill
-React to a truck breakdown in an unsafe neighborhood
-React to a tornado warning sounded at your location.
-React to a steer tire blowout that occurs at highway speeds

.There are many more scenarios. These are enough to get the idea across.[/quote]

With eight years experience nursing on the Trauma Unit of a Level 1 Medical Center, I have a bit of knowledge on the subject of sudden crises, and can attest that most of the scenarios listed above aren't crises, and require knowledge of the correct response, not practice. (And exactly how can one practice a response to being 'seriously injured in an accident'? Even if you retain consciousness, you will most likely be in shock, and how would you practice for that?! ) Sudden illness? Get medical attention - how, depends upon the nature and severity, where you are, who is around to help - there are too many variables to 'practice' a response.
Many of the scenarios listed are just common sense: if there's an emergency at home, you get yourself home ASAP. If your truck breaks down in a remote area, you call for help. If you encounter a Hazmat spill, you follow the instructions in your Hazmat manual...
I'm not saying there's no value whatsoever in thinking about how to respond to an emergency, if nothing else, it keeps the brain active - but the only scenario listed above that might result in an improved outcome due to practice is a blown steer tire. Emergency handling of your vehicle is best practiced, before the need arises, but as for the rest - I don't see where practice would amount to a hill of beans. In a real crisis, knowledge and instinct take over, and one reacts accordingly.
I can't remember ever reading of the heroic response of an 'ordinary person' to an emergency, in which the hero mentioned having practiced for the event - they just did what needed to be done, when it needed done, from knowledge and/or instinct. I think a lot of us could do the same, when faced with an emergency.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
Unless you have a known ailment in which you are taking medication or are conscience of certain symptoms, it would be difficult to really prepare for most instances.
Just about any circumstance could change how one would react and the process. Not exactly something you can practice for, except maybe grabbing the cell phone if the opportunity is present for certain prediciments.

With that being said, I would give credit to carriers that are paying attention to these types of circumstances.
Case in point, without throwing specific details out, Panther had a load originating from WA to AL. The load was stopped in NE because the driver was feeling ill and it was unclear as to how sick he was. Proper handling and a switch, and the load went to AL with the driver being able to get medical attention. This happened yesterday, so this isn't old news.
Thought it was worth mentioning in light of Coco's post.
 

wallytrucker1

Expert Expediter
Three little words "nine one one" Come get me baby and don't spare the siren. We all know when we are sick and then we know when" Something ain't right". Get help, that whatcamaycallit in the back can wait. We got one life and THEY can make another appointment time.
 

arkjarhead

Veteran Expediter
I can say one thing about Panther. They never really pushed me to drive when I said I didn't feel it was safe. I'm not saying a couple of dispatchers didn't try to prod me a little to keep going, but they never really pushed me.

It's more than just being sick though. Like Cheri said it can also include adverse or inclement weather. Another circumstance is when you feel to sleepy to drive. I've called dispatch a couple of times and told them look I'm sleepy and I have 4 extra hours to make my delivery on time and I'm taking a 3 hour nap. Could you call me in 3 hours to make sure I'm up? No company I've ever drove for wouldn't do that. They may try to push a little, but I push right back. Then I ask them a couple questions. What's better? Have the freight show up late in good condition, or late and damamged due to a wreck? There is one company that pushed me to run after I was out of hours and I was sleepy. I called my mother and told her if something happened sue their tails off. I finally broke them from that when I pulled into a scale house and asked the dot man to look at my log book. He shut me down, and give me a warning ticket. Mainly to make it look like I didn't turn myslef in. They quit harassing me after that. This certain company always making appointments you couldn't keep. Liek you would need to average 75 mph to make it without going over HOS, but the trucks wouldn't run over 65. Go figure how they think you can pull that off.
 

x06col

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Retired Expediter
US Army
There is probably way more to this story of woe than we will know. After all the info was it seems picked up by overhead conversation. That being typed, if you'd get outa the "poor lil driver" thought process and put the dispatcher/company hats on there isn't a one of you that would "allow or require" an ill driver to run {some} miles in a loaded truck, placing all kinds of things in jeopardy ie. equipment, freight, the driver, and of course, many other people. Lets put the blame for this tragedy squarely on the shoulder of ones personal well being choices.
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I believe it would serve expediters very well to develop their own set of reaction drills, like:

-React to sudden illness while on the road
-React to an accident where you are seriously injured
-React to a crisis at home that requires your immediate return
-React to a truck breakdown in a remote area
-React to an accident where you are not injured but others are.
-React to a HAZMAT spill
-React to a truck breakdown in an unsafe neighborhood
-React to a tornado warning sounded at your location.
-React to a steer tire blowout that occurs at highway speeds.

There are many more scenarios. These are enough to get the idea across.

Excellent list Ateam! Be prepared! Setting up and practicing reaction drills not only can save lives but it is also fun.

Many years ago a coworker, Wilhelm Mehoff ( his parents called him Willy, his friends called him Jack) and I wanted to test our reaction to a blown steer tire. We drove a tractor/trailer loaded with pulp logs to a remote granite spall dump about 30 miles from St. Cloud, MN. I remember that cold, sunny Wednesday morning in early February very well. Jack drove. I sat in the passenger seat holding my Carcano M91/38 bolt action short barrel rifle with scope between my legs. The same type rifle Lee Harvey Oswald used in Dallas so many years before.

The dump site offered the perfect place to test our steer tire blowout drill. There was a long, fairly straight dirt road leading in that ran in front of a 30 foot high granite heap. For the next couple of hours we practiced for the real drill. Jack drove the truck with me perched on my granite knoll snipers nest. We timed each run and had all of the details worked out so that when I pulled the trigger for real, Jack and the truck would be just entering a point where the road turned to the left.

Feeling confident with our plan, we broke for lunch. About 12:45 Jack drove the truck out to the main road, turned around and came highballing into the dump site. As he passed the granite knoll I squeezed off one round. Direct hit! The left front steer tire blew. Jack wrestled with the steering wheel trying desperately to maintain control of the truck. The truck pulled hard to the left hitting a small pile of granite rubble and tearing open a fuel tank. Then it careened to the right hitting another pile of granite ripping off the right steer tire and finally coming to rest.

I ran as fast as I could to the wreckage. As I got closer I could smell and then see the leaking diesel fuel. Jack was hunched over the steering wheeling with severe head trauma. What luck! Not only were we able to practice the blown steer tire drill, but now I had a broken down truck, an accident victim, and a Hazmat spill all in a remote area.

I quickly assessed the situation. Priority numeral uno (Spanish for number 1, no not peepee that's another thread) was to contain the fuel spill and protect the environment. I removed my trousers and using my bootlaces tied off each leg at the cuff. I then filled my pants with loose granite chips and frozen clods of dirt and snow. I did the same with my socks. The end result was a home made spill containment kit. It worked perfectly.

Having saved the environment I gave the truck a cursory examine. My gut instinct was that the truck was toast. My mechanical training and experience confirmed that. As I climbed up into the cab to render aid to Jack it happened. A tornado siren went off. Early February, in Minnesota? What the .... The shrill siren startled me. I lost my footing and fell backwards hitting my head on a granite chunk. I was dazed and possibly suffered a mild concussion. But I remember thinking more good luck. I am now hurt and a tornado is nearby. This will cover 6 of the 9 reaction drills. I had forgotten that it was the first Wednesday of the month and it was now 1:00 p.m. There really was no tornado.

Jack, Jack, I had to help Jack. I got up and staggered toward the truck. Once more I climbed the cab to where Jack sat motionless and bleeding. It was too late. Jack had succumbed to a nasty head injury. He hadn't been wearing a seatbelt so that he would be injured allowing me to practice the accident with injuries reaction drill. Bless his soul!

I got Jack's remains into a body bag I had left over from my school bus driving days and began the long hike out to the main highway. At the highway I stuck out my thumb trying to flag down a ride. People were reluctant to pick us up. Me in my underwear and the Carcano slung over my shoulder and Jack half in the bag. (the bag being grade school/middle school size) Together Jack and I hoofed it into civilization. I found a pay phone and immediately called the E.P.A. to report the fuel spill. I then called home to say I would be late for dinner. That's when my wife broke the awful news. My daughter's hamster had died. Family emergency. I wanted to, no I NEEDED to get home and comfort her.

My next phone call was to a cab company. Soon Jack and I were safe and warm in the back of a cab. I had the driver drop Jack off at a mortuary and we continued on toward the apartment I shared with my family. More good fortune. The cab broke down in an unsafe neighborhood inhabited by college students. The streets were littered with broken beer bottles and empty tapper cups. But I was able to make it home. Havening completed 8 of the 9 reaction drills.

Whenever I hear "Warren Commission", "grassy knoll" or "Dallas" I am reminded of the 3 Jacks; Kennedy, Ruby and Mehoff and of that glorious day in early February.

Please take care and practice, practice practice!
 
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highway star

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Moot, you da bom, Dude!! My hat is off and my figurative glass is raised!

I have to defend dispatch in this, based on what we've been told.. If the driver says he doesn't feel well, but isn't so ill that he needs to stop, then delivering the freight isn't such an unreasonable request. Since he said he wanted to go home, that indicates he was still O.K. to drive. If he had said he needed to get to a clinic or an emergency room, the response may have been different.
 

Randy_Bear

Seasoned Expediter
We were sitting at the Pilot in Priceville Al, close to Huntsville and overheard a driver complaining of being sick and needing to go home. His dispatcher insisted he deliver his freight the next morning before going home to Georgia.

After his freight was not delivered the next day, his company contacted Pilot to see if he had abandoned his truck.

He was found in his truck. He had passed away during the night.

What part of our lives is so unimportant that our own instincts are ignored?

Sounds to me like someone's family should own an expediting company!
 

Randy_Bear

Seasoned Expediter
I had a problem last year with a slight kidney stone ....

Speaking from experience here, is there any such thing as a "slight" kidney stone"?? I've had 2 of them, both a little bigger than a grain of sand, and they caused me the most intense pain I've ever experienced!!
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Makes you want to become the largest consumer of cranberry juice in the country don't they.
 

highway star

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Sounds to me like someone's family should own an expediting company!

Why would that be? Because the dispatcher didn't act like a parent or a babysitter? Coco makes mention of our instincts. As ill as this driver was, the call to dispatch should have been one saying he was going to the doctor, period. If I'm sitting in the dispatchers chair and someone tells me they're to ill to deliver, but not to ill to drive home, I would certainly try to get that driver to make the delivery. There's a big difference between just feeling like crap and being as ill as this driver was. If dispatch is talking to a driver and the driver sneezes, do they insist he go out of service and seek medical attention just to be on the safe side? We're responsible for our own welfare, not someone on the other end of a phone.
 
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