The war on the West thru Christmas

AMonger

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Just heard a radio ad for AT&T Wireless. Said something to the effect of, "By this time, you've usually asked your children a million times, 'What do you want for the holidays?'"

"What do you want for the holidays?

Apparently, they hate Western Civilization so much, sounding like idiots doesn't deter them.
 

Moot

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"What do you want for the holidays?

Apparently, they hate Western Civilization so much, sounding like idiots doesn't deter them.

Apparently. It is also apparent that they don't realize that the birthplace of Christianity is Jerusalem, located in the Mid East.
 

xiggi

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Just heard a radio ad for AT&T Wireless. Said something to the effect of, "By this time, you've usually asked your children a million times, 'What do you want for the holidays?'"

"What do you want for the holidays?

Apparently, they hate Western Civilization so much, sounding like idiots doesn't deter them.

It has nothing to do with att hating Christmas. I think your a little smarter than that.

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Turtle

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"What do you want for the holidays?" is certainly easier to say than is, "What do you want for Christmas, Kwanzaa, Hanukkah, New Years, or Saturnalia?"

Personally, I think AT&T hates Kwanzaa. And Boxing Day.
 

AMonger

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It has nothing to do with att hating Christmas. I think your a little smarter than that.

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It's part of a pattern of trans-national corporations, many of them, eschewing western traditions in favor of other values. It's undeniable.
 

xiggi

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It's part of a pattern of trans-national corporations, many of them, eschewing western traditions in favor of other values. It's undeniable.

No its the bottom line and says nothing about their feelings on western values. They can write one ad that covers most people.

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AMonger

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"What do you want for the holidays?" is certainly easier to say than is, "What do you want for Christmas, Kwanzaa, Hanukkah, New Years, or Saturnalia?"

Personally, I think AT&T hates Kwanzaa. And Boxing Day.

Kwanzaa is fictitious and not a gift-giving occasion; Hanukkah is not a multi-gift occasion like Christmas; New Year's Day is irrelevant here; and whatever Saturnalia is, it isn't a western holiday. We all know the score here. This is directed at Western institutions only.
 

Turtle

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Clearly, I have no idea what "western" means.

Incidentally, Saturnalia was the original western holiday, in Rome. Unless Rome doesn't qualify as being western. Primary festivities included feasting and multi-gift giving. You don't think the tradition of giving gifts at Christmas came from the Three Wise Men, do you?
 
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LDB

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It's a more and more common abandoning of Christmas. It's also done by many companies in their print ads which are circulated in mailboxes and which have nothing to do with global anything. It's their choice just as it's their choice to support, endorse and promote same sex marriage and other values that abandon Christianity as Home Depot does for one. As mentioned, it makes them sound really ignorant.
 

AMonger

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Clearly, I have no idea what "western" means.

As in Western Civilization, ****ed down most recently through those of Western European descent, embodying Judeo-Christian values and cherishing individual liberty and the rule of law.
 

mjmsprt40

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The "War on Christmas" begins right after we give thanks for what we have. Then, within hours of having eaten an abundance of turkey--- which may last several days-- we have this thing called "Black Friday". They call it that because, if you're the hapless person who has to open the store, black may be the very next thing you see as hundreds of shoppers do their best to trample you into oblivion to get the latest Game Boy.

Sorry. Black Friday is my latest peeve. I'm having a hard time imagining Jesus pushing people out of His way so He can buy the latest must-have computer device. Or, being pleased while people professing to follow Him and buying gifts to celebrate His birthday act in what has got to be the biggest display of greed and selfishness we see all year. Somehow, I have an idea that saying "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas" is the least of our worries concerning the "War on Christmas".
 

layoutshooter

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It is called "Black Friday" because for many retail operations it is the first day that they go into the "black", as in not losing money, for the entire year. For many all profits for the year are made between Thanksgiving and New Years. The rest of the year is a loss.

Ignore it. That is the best bet. That's what we do. I don't go out 'bargain hunting'. I go out duck hunting, goose hunting, rabbit hunting, deer hunting etc. Sometimes even on "Black Friday".

It is all personal choice.
 

Ragman

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You don't think the tradition of giving gifts at Christmas came from the Three Wise Men, do you?

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Moot

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It's part of a pattern of trans-national corporations, many of them, eschewing western traditions in favor of other values. It's undeniable.
Of course it is undeniable because it is true. Trans-national corporations are um, like trans-national. They are not bound by one nation. They're like global or world wide or like super awesome or all encompassing or bigger than any one country. In a totally capitalistic way these companies believe they can increase their bottom lines by not alienating way more than half of their (potential) customers.

If you truly believe in Christmas and want to celebrate the birth of Christ, why not give him a birthday present? On Christmas Day try and put aside all of your hatred, turn off your computer and spend some time celebrating the birth of Jesus and thinking what it means to be a Christian. Its just a mere 24 hours, probably 6 to 8 will be spent sleeping. This could possibly change your whole outlook on life. Peace!
 

AMonger

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They're like global or world wide or like super awesome or all encompassing or bigger than any one country. In a totally capitalistic way these companies believe they can increase their bottom lines by not alienating way more than half of their (potential) customers.
That would make sense if the commercial were broadcast worldwide, but it's not. For a commercial broadcast only in a country where the vast majority celebrate Christmas, the reason has to be something else.
And I'm not even talking about the spiritual aspect of Christmas, merely the traditional. Christmas, even as commercialized as it's become, is what we do here.
 
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