The Trump Card...

OntarioVanMan

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Detroit is a city with an infrastructure for 2 million people. For the last 56 years Detroit has bled population like a sieve.
The current population of just over 600,000 would have no problem absorbing 10,000.
yeah...10,000 LEGAL or "In Process" people....
 

davekc

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We spend 670+ billion a year on defence but we're broke? I think Russia is next at around 60 billion. Defence spending has went up every year of GWB and Obamas terms. Trump wants to increase defence spending.

Sure. We are borrowing like crazy to spend that. That is why we are 20 trillion in debt and climbing.
 

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I got no problem with that. There's plenty of room for the hard working people of the Middle East. Dearborn is proof of that.

Of course, Trump will want to build a wall here also.
Too expensive in too small of time frame. All of those areas have to be rebuilt. Same problem, no money. They would be coming needing immediate assistance on everything, and then provide housing or rehab an area would be a tough sell. Too many existing citizens would want that benefit ahead of refugees. Cheaper to help them there.
 

OntarioVanMan

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Housing project were the worst idea ever... That's why they never worked Ontario tried them and it was a bust ... Literally worst social building ever
 
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skyraider

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Where is big mouth Bernie today and all his BS,,,where Chris Christie and all his BS,,,where did all the flowers go,,,blowing in the wind??? I will be giving out hot air balloons to yesterdays buffoons..... sure is quiet out here...
 

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Here it is again. New poll, new article. Trump Halves Clinton's Lead
First paragraph quickly points out that "Hillary Clinton is leading Donald Trump by 5 points nationally, according Quinnipiac University poll, which showed Clinton ahead by 10 at the end of August."

Then it goes on to list the numbers... "The former secretary of State is has 48 percent support among likely voters, compared with 43 percent for Trump. In the August 25 Quinnipiac poll, Clinton led 51 percent to 41 percent."

Once the excitement has died down and most readers have stopped reading, much farther down in the article they finally get to the reality of it all... "In a four-way race Clinton's lead narrows considerably. Clinton gets 41 percent support, Trump gets 39 percent, Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson claims 13 percent and Green Party nominee Jill Stein gets 4 percent."
 

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I also like how the press is falling all over itself to report the negative comments that Colin Powell has about Trump, but is largely silent on Powell's comments regarding Hillary, like, "Everything HRC touches she kind of screws up with hubris."

Ouch!
 

OntarioVanMan

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Trump better be careful Trudeau could hit the off switch like his Dad did and cut off the US during the Oil Embargo days...

New England and New York accounted for 60% of the total electricity imported into the United States in 2014, and these imports represent 12%-16% of the region's retail sales of electricity. New England imports its electricity primarily from Quebec. New York imports electricity from the hydroelectric resources in Quebec and Ontario,
 

OntarioVanMan

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funny we don't hear about the new jobs created...like Toyota Ms. 2000 direct jobs and spinoff would create approx another 5-6,000....
Mercedes expanding and building the Sprinter here in SC
The investment will create 1,300 new jobs.....spin offs maybe another 3,000 jobs....Just 2 examples Trump will not mention....
Despite all the Mexico hoopla the U.S. is currently second among the
largest manufacturer in the world by volume

the only other big spender...Reagan....who increased the National debt ceiling no less then 17 times in his 8 yrs....also the result was an unprecedented government debt. Reagan had tripled the Gross Federal Debt, from $900 billion to $2.7 trillion. Ford and Carter in their combined terms could only double it. It took 31 years to accomplish the first postwar debt tripling, yet Reagan did it in eight.
 
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davekc

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funny we don't hear about the new jobs created...like Toyota Ms. 2000 direct jobs and spinoff would create approx another 5-6,000....
Mercedes expanding and building the Sprinter here in SC
The investment will create 1,300 new jobs.....spin offs maybe another 3,000 jobs....Just 2 examples Trump will not mention....
Despite all the Mexico hoopla the U.S. is currently second among the
largest manufacturer in the world by volume

the only other big spender...Reagan....who increased the National debt ceiling no less then 17 times in his 8 yrs....also the result was an unprecedented government debt. Reagan had tripled the Gross Federal Debt, from $900 billion to $2.7 trillion. Ford and Carter in their combined terms could only double it. It took 31 years to accomplish the first postwar debt tripling, yet Reagan did it in eight.
And of course Ford just announced all small car manufacturing will head to Mexico. The key here is to watch the insane trade imbalance. Not getting any better based on the numbers.
 

OntarioVanMan

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And of course Ford just announced all small car manufacturing will head to Mexico. The key here is to watch the insane trade imbalance. Not getting any better based on the numbers.
I don't know the specifics but NAFTA has numbers built in....like the old Auto pact....there has to be some kind of balancing act to avoid tripping import tariffs to begin...
 

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Trump better be careful Trudeau could hit the off switch like his Dad did and cut off the US during the Oil Embargo days...
The response would be to shut off the switch going the other way, as well. And knowing Trump, he'd flip all the switches. Just close the border. Pierre Trudeau was a disaster for Canada. He had Alberta wanting to leave Canada and join up with Montana. They still don't like Ottawa much out there so it wouldn't take much to push them over the edge.

funny we don't hear about the new jobs created...like Toyota Ms. 2000 direct jobs and spinoff would create approx another 5-6,000....
Mercedes expanding and building the Sprinter here in SC
The investment will create 1,300 new jobs.....spin offs maybe another 3,000 jobs....Just 2 examples Trump will not mention....
Not sure about Mercedes, but he's definitely mentioned Toyota Mississippi. Just a couple of months ago he held a rally at the high school in Madison, MS and spoke of the jobs created there by Toyota, and noted that they and the other new manufacturing jobs being created here were a drop in the bucket compared to the number of jobs that have moved overseas. Since NAFTA went into effect, and other bad trade deals, the US has lost more than 70,000 manufacturing facilities. Not jobs, but the facilities themselves. The jobs lost are in the millions, and most of the jobs created since then, the ones Obama and Hillary like to tout, pay a third of what the lost jobs pay, and they are less than half of the number of lost jobs.

Despite all the Mexico hoopla the U.S. is currently second among the largest manufacturer in the world by volume
Unfortunately not by dollar volume or by trade imbalance.

Between 1900 and the Energy Crisis starting about 1973, the US actively worked to maintain a zero sum trade balance around the world. We exported just a snotload of things, and really didn't need to import all that much, but we did it anyway so as to not create a massive trade imbalance that put other countries at a disadvantage. The trade deficit began to hit when we had to dramatically increase oil imports during the Crisis. That trade imbalance worsened with NAFTA and other global trade deals, which incentivized manufacturing jobs here to move overseas to take advantage of the lower wages and the favorable trade agreements. The 7 decades of goodwill trade equilibrium were answered by as many countries as possible trying to stick it to us, and the trade deals negotiated since then have made it even easier for them to do so. The TPP opens the door even wide to abuse, especially since it's being done mainly to thwart the Pacific Rim countries from huddling up and creating a free trade agreement with each other, or worse, create one that includes China (the TPP doesn't include China).

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OntarioVanMan

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Btw... PTrudeau was the best thing to happen with Canada.., he was a federalist he believed in the country like trump those Americans are still pissed because he turned off the oil tap to favour Canada and keep its prices low at home​
 

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Btw... PTrudeau was the best thing to happen with Canada.., he was a federalist he believed in the country like trump those Americans are still pissed because he turned off the oil tap to favour Canada and keep its prices low at home​
He favoured Ontario and Quebec, Newfoundland a little bit, with the rest of Canada be damned. It's why those opposed to his precious NEP, especially those in Alberta, bacronymed Petro-Canada to be "Pierre Elliott Trudeau Rips Off Canada." Canadian natural resources constitutionally fall within the domain of provincial jurisdictions, so it's not surprising that most Albertans viewed the NEP as a blatant and detrimental intrusion by the federal government into the province's affairs. There are still to this day billboards and signs in Alberta that read "More Alberta, Less Ottawa."

The popular western slogan during the NEP, which appeared on many bumper stickers in Alberta was, "Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark."

The anger of Albertans led to the creation of the Reform and Canadian Alliance parties, becoming the Conservative party that mostly rules Ottawa today. Pierre had big plans for the Constitution Act of 1982, where not only would he pretty much do away with provincial resource rights, but would have given Ontario and Quebec autonomous veto power over any resource rights that were left, even to the point of giving Quebec absolute veto power over any amendments to the Constitution. Even the Queen stepped in on that one. :D
 
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