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danthewolf00
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I guess the "unhinged" includes Trump himself. This came out today:
"Former President Donald Trump said he expects to be arrested Tuesday in connection with an investigation conducted by the Manhattan District Attorney's office and is calling for protests ahead of his possible indictment." (Source)
Donald Trump claims he will be arrested Tuesday in Manhattan probe, calls for protests
Former President Donald Trump said he expects to be arrested Tuesday in connection with an investigation by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg.
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Trump Expects to be Arrested Tuesday (Source)
Millions of Americans have been frustrated by Trump's lifelong ability to avoid meaningful accountability for the many misdeeds they believe he has done. Many have wanted him to be arrested and charged with crimes for a long, long time. It now appears that day will come on Tuesday.
Much has already been said about the veracity of the hush money case for which this arrest will be made. And yes, this is a "small" crime compared to some of the other crimes for which Trump is said to being investigated (other grand juries for other possible crimes). But if it happens, it's highly likely the Manhattan DA believes he has a defensible case. It's also true that Trump's arrest would be a a huge event of historic significance.
This arrest will take some pressure off the other prosecutors who are also likely to charge and arrest Trump. The precedent will be set. After it's done the first time, it's not as earth shaking or politically difficult for the next prosecutor in the next jurisdiction to Arrest Trump again.
Millions of Americans have been frustrated by Trump's lifelong ability to avoid meaningful accountability for the many misdeeds they believe he has done. Many have wanted him to be arrested and charged with crimes for a long, long time. It now appears that day will come on Tuesday.
Much has already been said about the veracity of the hush money case for which this arrest will be made. And yes, this is a "small" crime compared to some of the other crimes for which Trump is said to being investigated (other grand juries for other possible crimes). But if it happens, it's highly likely the Manhattan DA believes he has a defensible case. It's also true that Trump's arrest would be a a huge event of historic significance.
This arrest will take some pressure off the other prosecutors who are also likely to charge and arrest Trump. The precedent will be set. After it's done the first time, it's not as earth shaking or politically difficult for the next prosecutor in the next jurisdiction to Arrest Trump again.
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Interesting. Calling for people to exercise their 1st Amendment right, is now considered “unhinged”.I guess the "unhinged" includes Trump himself. This came out today:
"Former President Donald Trump said he expects to be arrested Tuesday in connection with an investigation conducted by the Manhattan District Attorney's office and is calling for protests ahead of his possible indictment." (Source)
Donald Trump claims he will be arrested Tuesday in Manhattan probe, calls for protests
Former President Donald Trump said he expects to be arrested Tuesday in connection with an investigation by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg.www.yahoo.com
Seems odd that when BLM called for protests over George Floyd or any other perceived injustice it was considered a constitutional right, and NEVER considered "unhinged" - even when they were burning down entire sections of cities. The Trump tweet simply called for "protest".
There are so many things wrong with this possible arrest it's hard to know where to start. First of all, the charge for mishandling funds is a misdemeanor that the NY atty general is trying to twist into a felony. The Yahoo article previously mentioned stated "federal investigators ended their own inquiry into the payments in 2019." The statute of limitations in NY has historically been two years - this incident allegedly took place seven years ago. All this is being generated by a state atty general who ran on the promise to "get Trump", and is acting in concert with a sitting POTUS who would likely be running against Trump in the upcoming 2024 election. The timing of this deal is not coincidental.
If this kind of flimsy politically based persecution is allowed to go forward against Trump - a former POTUS and the strongest opponent in an upcoming election - will this become SOP for political parties in the future? This could redefine the definition of "bad precedents".
It's wise to note that, so far, the only information we have about a Trump arrest on Tuesday comes from Trump himself. No law enforcement official, and no Trump attorney has confirmed Trump's expectation.
When I first read Trump's statement, I assumed (perhaps incorrectly) that arrangements had been made for Trump to surrender himself in New York for arrest on Tuesday. But without confirmation, Trump's claim continues to be just that, an unsubstantiated claim.
Why would he make such a claim? His "arrested on Tuesday" claim is provoking reaction across the political spectrum. How does it serve Trump to stir things up like this?
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You do bring up a good point, out of all the possible charges they could charge Trump with, they chose this minor thing?????
danthewolf00
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To Perp Walk or Not?
There is a standard procedure, shared below, defendants go through in Manhattan. They include the "perp walk."
Trump and some of his supporters have said an indictment would help Trump because the public would be outraged and his candidacy would consequently grow stronger.
There is another procedure available, also standard but less frequently used. It does not include a perp walk and time in a holding area. I'm assuming that because of his special status as former president under Secret Service protection, and the non-violent nature of the charged crime, he'll be offered the other procedure.
What do you think? Will Trump embrace the perp walk as a campaign tactic? Will he want the big show? The footage and photo of Trump in handcuffs, if it happens, would likely be the most publicized perp walk in history. It definitely puts Trump center stage, where he likes to be. Or will he opt for the less dramatic booking and court appearance procedure instead?
Personally, I'm hoping Trump opts for the big show. I have believed for a while that this man should be arrested and placed in cuffs. If this happens, it will be quite the sight to see. I'm also rooting for him to win the Republican nomination. Trump is a destructive force and the longer he remains a factor in the Republican Party, the worse for the party it will be.
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"Under standard procedures, once indicted, a defendant like Trump would be escorted into the New York City courthouse in lower Manhattan and taken to a processing room, where he would be briefly put in a jail cell, booked, fingerprinted, photographed for a mug shot and handcuffed. He would then be escorted via elevator to an upper floor, where he would be walked in handcuffs into a courtroom for his arraignment in full view of the media — the equivalent of a 'perp walk.'" (Source)
There is a standard procedure, shared below, defendants go through in Manhattan. They include the "perp walk."
Trump and some of his supporters have said an indictment would help Trump because the public would be outraged and his candidacy would consequently grow stronger.
There is another procedure available, also standard but less frequently used. It does not include a perp walk and time in a holding area. I'm assuming that because of his special status as former president under Secret Service protection, and the non-violent nature of the charged crime, he'll be offered the other procedure.
What do you think? Will Trump embrace the perp walk as a campaign tactic? Will he want the big show? The footage and photo of Trump in handcuffs, if it happens, would likely be the most publicized perp walk in history. It definitely puts Trump center stage, where he likes to be. Or will he opt for the less dramatic booking and court appearance procedure instead?
Personally, I'm hoping Trump opts for the big show. I have believed for a while that this man should be arrested and placed in cuffs. If this happens, it will be quite the sight to see. I'm also rooting for him to win the Republican nomination. Trump is a destructive force and the longer he remains a factor in the Republican Party, the worse for the party it will be.
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"Under standard procedures, once indicted, a defendant like Trump would be escorted into the New York City courthouse in lower Manhattan and taken to a processing room, where he would be briefly put in a jail cell, booked, fingerprinted, photographed for a mug shot and handcuffed. He would then be escorted via elevator to an upper floor, where he would be walked in handcuffs into a courtroom for his arraignment in full view of the media — the equivalent of a 'perp walk.'" (Source)
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Correct. I agree.
Some in the media are reading a lot into that simple, single word. They're recalling the Jan 6 insurrection and drawing parallels with the crowd Trump drew on that day, and the subsequent events at the Capitol. In their minds, they're manufacturing some sort of imaginary New York event that will be violent. But that's all made up, and it's not fair. This use of the "protest" word in this Truth Social post is just that, a single word. No details. No location. No time. No event of any kind.
That said, Trump needs to be really careful here.
He is already being investigated for interfering with an official proceeding. The Jan 6 events still burn fresh in many people's minds, including law enforcement. The New York City police (40,000 officers strong) is perhaps one of the most capable and well equipped anti-terrorism police forces in the world. Any NY protest Trump calls for or prompts with coded language, as well as any protest that spontaneously erupts, will be an intensely surveilled event. Some surveillance is likely already underway.
If Trump calls on or issues an implied call to his militant supporters to interfere in the Manhattan legal processes in any way, he has a high risk of being charged with that crime. Having seen what happened on Jan 6, people are taking Trump's calls a lot more seriously than they did before.
Any protesters who show up to interfere with a legal proceeding would also be wise to take note. Hundreds who showed up on Jan 6 have been charged, convicted and jailed or fined. You can be sure the authorities will be much better prepared for any "protest" prompted by any future statements Trump may make or calls he may issue.
Regarding the arrest Trump says he expects, he has issued no improper calls for a protest or gathering so far. He will be wise to keep it that way.
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danthewolf00
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The released 40,000 hours by McCarthy to Tucker Carlson has so far shown a much different view than what the Democrats and the January 6th committee.
If a house burns down and I show a picture of it before the fire, that's a much different view too. But the truth is, both photos are accurate. The house once stood and the house now does not. The picture you show and story you tell does not change the truth. When the full story is told, the truth is known.
I happened to be watching TV on that Jan 6. I was transfixed by the news reports. I changed my schedule to watch this historic event unfold. I saw the footage live of people walking quietly through the building and I saw the footage live of numerous violent acts. Both happened. Both are true. Both are parts of the same story, which is there was a violent insurrection on Jan 6.
Did you see on tv the flash bangs by police into the crowd of people just standing around? I didn’t think so. It did happen and It’s on tape.
I keep hearing that no one is above the law, but then they throw this Mickey Mouse crap charge at Trump, Something the prosecutors wouldn’t waste their time with otherwise. So in essence, Trump is being SINGLED OUT and getting “special treatment” by being persecuted for this nothingburger non crime.
It's not like the four grand juries are working as a team. Assuming we'll see indictments from all four, one of them has to be first. I see nothing significant about which one of the four that would be.
A common theme with the unhinged Left. Turn non crimes into contrived ones.
"Contrived is putting it mildly. The New York DA is twisting this case into a legal pretzel that will end up breaking apart. Funny how Hillary Clinton was able to quietly settle a similar FEC case by paying a fine, while the feds didn't even bother to pursue the allegations against Trump.
'Legally Pathetic': Jonathan Turley Shreds Bragg's Potential Case Against Trump
Jonathan Turley called the Manhattan District Attorney's potential case against former President Donald J. Trump "legally pathetic."
www.breitbart.com
Another legal expert and former FEC commissioner weighs in on Bragg's budding fiasco:
“A settlement payment of a nuisance claim is not a federal campaign expense,” said von Spakovsky, a senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation. “The state DA has no authority to prosecute a federal campaign finance violation in any event.”
resistthemainstream.com
“A settlement payment of a nuisance claim is not a federal campaign expense,” said von Spakovsky, a senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation. “The state DA has no authority to prosecute a federal campaign finance violation in any event.”
Trump-Stormy Daniels Settlement at Heart of Potential NY DA Indictment Didn't Violate Campaign Law: FEC Expert
Well, well...
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