The Trump Card...

ATeam

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And the fbi and doj do not want him lol
Anyone know if this former judge was the fisa judge that the fbi lied to?
He approved the fourth FISA warrant.
Ohhhh thats why they don't want him lol
Regarding "lol," the joke may be on Trump.

Judge Cannon appointed U.S. Federal judge Raymond Dearie to serve as special master. Dearie was one of two names submitted by Trump for this role. While DOJ submitted two names of their own, they later agreed that Dearie was acceptable. With both parties agreeing on Dearie, Cannon appointed him. Some commentators have expressed delight over the Dearie pick since Dearie was has history with the FISA warrant episode mentioned above.

With Dearie moving at surprising clarity and speed, seemingly determined to get his special master work done ASAP, the Trump legal team is now openly fighting Dearie, their very own special master pick.

1. Dearie has asked the Trump lawyers to provide evidence that the documents with classified markings seized at Mar-a-Lago were in fact declassified by Trump. Continuing to avoid that crucial question, the Trump team is refusing to comply with Dearie's request. (Source).

2. Regarding the pace of work, Special Master Dearie himself is suggesting it can all be completed by Oct 4. The Trump legal team is quibbling about that fast pace, saying "“We respectfully suggest that all of the deadlines can be extended to allow for a more realistic and complete assessment of the areas of disagreement.” (Source)

3. "Trump’s team also raised concerns about Dearie’s request for information about whether any subsequent Fourth Amendment litigation filed by Trump to reclaim the documents should be filed with the magistrate judge who authorized the search in the first place." (Source)

Regarding Dearie's proposed plan and requirement that Trump "... disclose specific information regarding declassification to the Court and to the Government." Dearie has scheduled a hearing to take place at a federal court in Brooklyn, New York, on Tuesday at 2 p.m. ET (Source).

I'm surprised by the authority U.S. Federal Court Judge Dearie is exercising in this. I thought (apparently incorrectly) that the special master was primarily a clerical role in which he would review the documents in question and share his findings in Judge Cannon's court. Dearie's actions suggest something quite different. He has ordered (not invited, ordered) both parties to appear, not at a meeting, but in his court; and not for a discussion, but for a hearing; and not in Washington or Florida, but in New York, where Dearie's court is located.

Also, Dearie is not asking the DOJ and Trump to agree on a special master work plan. He is putting his own plan forward and asking the two parties to comment on it. It seems he will consider that feedback, and then will finalize HIS plan and to proceed as HE deems fit.

Given Dearie's actions so far, it seems the reputation he has for being a "no nonsense" judge is well deserved. The Politico headline is apt;

"Trump discovers he's not in Cannon-land anymore"

Finally, picking up on the lol theme expressed by the OP, Judge Cannon ordered Trump to pay 100% of the special master costs.
 
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ATeam

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Your a Democrat business owner.
You should know better, and I would appreciate it if you respected the truth in this matter.

I have stated my political party affiliation numerous times in this forum. I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican. My state voter registration card correctly lists my political party status. It is "NPA," meaning no party affiliation. Throughout my life, I have voted for a mix of independent, Republican and Democratic candidates.

My voter registration card officially states I have no political party affiliation.
I'm telling you I am an independent voter with no political party affiliation.
My voting actions are consistent with one who has no political party affiliation.

On what fair and reasonable basis do you see fit to incorrectly label me as a Democrat?
 

danthewolf00

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You should know better, and I would appreciate it if you respected the truth in this matter.

I have stated my political party affiliation numerous times in this forum. I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican. My state voter registration card correctly lists my political party status. It is "NPA," meaning no party affiliation. Throughout my life, I have voted for a mix of independent, Republican and Democratic candidates.

My voter registration card officially states I have no political party affiliation.
I'm telling you I am an independent voter with no political party affiliation.
My voting actions are consistent with one who has no political party affiliation.

On what fair and reasonable basis do you see fit to incorrectly label me as a Democrat?
You lean very left in your post.
You also seam to not like trump at all.
The man was good for the economy.....personal wise hate him but as president he did us good.
 
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ATeam

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You lean very left in your post.
You also seam to not like trump at all.
The man was good for the economy.....personal wise hate him but as president he did us good.
On social issues I lean more left than right.
On fiscal issues, I lean more right than left
I do not like Trump
Liz Cheney does not like Trump either and she is a Republican. Liking or disliking Trump does not make you a Democrat or anything else. It simply means you don't like Trump.
 
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ATeam

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Phil,
That's the problem. Some can't discuss the issues without resorting to lies.
Maybe. But I think it has more to do with the tendency to run everything through a filter before giving any thought to it at all. In this case, the "Democrat" filter is profoundly evident. The man seldom speaks about or interprets any person or story without referring to "Democrat" in one way or another.

Such an approach has the advantage of being quick and simple, but that filter causes one to miss most of what's going on in the real world. If you asked this man if he was a liar, I think he'd say no. Everything is true or false to him because his filter makes it so.
 
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muttly

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A more accurate definition than Democrat is The Left or Left leaning. There are a lot of Dems in my area that voted for Trump.
 

ATeam

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How long do you think it will be before Trump starts hurling insults at his Special Master choice Judge Dearie?
 
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Special Master to Trump lawyers: “If the government gives me prima facia evidence that they are classified documents, and you don’t advance any claim of declassification, I’m left with a prima facia case of classified documents, and as far as I’m concerned, that’s the end of it,”

Test Question 1: Whose idea was it to go to court to get a special master involved in this case?

Test Question 2: Who named this person as one who is qualified to serve as the special master?

Test Question 3: True or False: If Trump's lawyers state in court that the documents in question were declassified, they risk disbarment and perjury charges.

Test Question 4: Trump has successfully avoided answering the declassification question in court several times up to now. Will he be able to do it again this time? If so, how?
 
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RLENT

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How long do you think it will be before Trump starts hurling insults at his Special Master choice Judge Dearie?

Expect accusations from Trump at any time as to Judge Dearie being part of the "Deep State" - that's the term that Trumper kooks use to refer to the duly elected and legitimate government of United States of America.
 
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RLENT

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Special Master to Trump lawyers: “If the government gives me prima facia evidence that they are classified documents, and you don’t advance any claim of declassification, I’m left with a prima facia case of classified documents, and as far as I’m concerned, that’s the end of it,”

:clapping-happy:

Test Question 1: Whose idea was it to go to court to get a special master involved in this case?

Orange Julius ... The Very Stable Jenius ?

Test Question 2: Who named this person as one who is qualified to serve as the special master?

Same.

Test Question 3: True or False: If Trump's lawyers state in court that the documents in question were declassified, they risk disbarment and perjury charges.

I'd say it's a fair bet that they would be at risk, strictly in terms of legal exposure.

If that exposure is only under Cannon's jurisdiction, then I'd say it's a fairly low risk.

Dearie would be a whole different ballgame.

Test Question 4: Trump has successfully avoided answering the declassification question in court several times up to now. Will he be able to do it again this time? If so, how?

Not sure if he will ... but it may not matter:

Cannon rigged the process so she could veto anything Dearie does - by altering the standard boilerplate language used to appoint Special Masters to allow herself the ability to remove Dearie for essentially any reason.

She altered it by removing the typical language that states a Special Master can be removed only "for cause".

Personally, if she continues down this path of lawlessness, I'd be totally fine with seeing her impeached and convicted (thereby removing her from the federal bench), then stripped of her US Citizenship, and be sent packing ... with a one-way ticket back to her hometown of Cali, Columbia where she was born ... so she could ply her trade as a corrupt judge for the various local drug lords in her native country.
 
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ATeam

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Since I was bored this morning I reviewed all of Trump's Truths back to Aug 20th. ... As expected, this article is complete malarkey with the best example being a photo of Trump with a "Q" photo-shopped on his right lapel. Trump never wears a pin on his right lapel.
I'm not on Truth Social but I am curious about some of the news reports I'm reading about the Q pin in question. Maybe someone who is on Truth Social can answer my question. I'd like to know if the reports are accurate.

First, while I do not follow Trump's mode of dress in detail, Pilgrim's statement that "Trump never wears a pin on his right lapel" makes sense to me. Trump is very conscious of his image and look. I know he has strong opinions about what looks good in buildings and what does not. His dark suit and long, solid-color red tie (sometimes blue) have been his signature look for years. It would not surprise me a bit to learn that Trump has strong belief about why pins of any kind should not be worn on the right lapel.

But the reports are not saying the image depicting Trump wearing a Q pin on his right lapel was a real photo. They call it an image or photo-shopped image. I agree with you, Pilgrim. I think the image is a photo-shopped image.

My question is not about the image being photo-shopped. It's about the reports that say Trump himself posted that image on Truth Social. Example:

"Trump shared a picture of himself wearing a Q lapel pin, overlaid with the QAnon phrases “The Storm is Coming” and “WWG1WGA,” (an acronym for “Where We Go One, We Go All) on his Truth Social account September 12." (Source)

My question is easy to answer. Did Trump use his own Trump Social account to post this image on Truth Social?
 
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The People of New York v. Donald J. Trump et al.

NEW YORK — New York Attorney General Letitia James filed a lawsuit Wednesday accusing former president Donald Trump, three of his grown children and executives at his company of flagrantly manipulating property valuations to deceive lenders, insurance brokers and tax authorities into giving them better rates on bank loans and insurance policies and to reduce their tax liability.

The suit asks the New York Supreme Court to bar Trump, as well as Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump and Eric Trump, from serving as executives at any company in New York, and to bar the Trump Organization from acquiring any commercial real estate or receiving loans from any New York-registered financial institution for five years.

It seeks to recover more than $250 million in what James’s office says are ill-gotten gains received through the alleged deceptive practices. While the lawsuit itself is not a criminal prosecution, James (D) said she has referred possible violations of federal law to the Justice Department and the IRS. (Source)

Read the lawsuit here
 
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